San Diego Chargers' Bolts & Dolts: Week 1
Well that certainly seemed a lot like 2008, didn't it? The defense didn't show up until the second half, the offense didn't look effective until the fourth quarter, but yet the team manages to squeak out a victory. It was ugly, it was jarring, but if the San Diego Chargers can come out and win 2 of their next 3 games against Baltimore, Miami and Pittsburgh, we'll forget all about how close the team came to losing this one.
Let's be honest though. That was not the same Oakland Raiders team we are used to seeing. With their offensive line pushing people around, and the defense knocking Chargers out of the game with injuries on seemingly every play, that looked more like a Bill Parcells-coached football team. Give credit to the Raiders and Tom Cable, who may ride that recipe for success to a competitive finish in the AFC West.
I'm expecting a lot of players on both sides of Bolts & Dolts this week. The entire list, along with stats and analysis, is after the jump.
Bolts
Offense
Philip Rivers - 24/36, 252 yards, 1 TD, 1 Int. He never had a great pocket to work with, and his receivers had a difficult time getting open. Plain and simple, Richard Seymour and the Oakland secondary (who game him fits last season) put Philip in a tough spot on almost every play. However, when it mattered most Rivers did what he usually did. He got better. He got rid of the ball quicker, took what the defense gave him and quickly worked his team downfield for the winning score. Also, his touchdown pass to Vincent Jackson was either a complete mistake or one of the most perfect passes I've ever seen thrown.
Darren Sproles - 9 carries, 23 yards, 1 rush TD, 5 catches, 43 yards. Worth every penny. His catch and run for the first down on third and long was probably the biggest play of the game. His touchdown run seemed effortless. Over the entire game he had less luck running the ball than LT, but when the Chargers spread the Oakland defense out he became the biggest player in the game. The last drive, for me, negates all of those muffed punts and kicks he had during the game. It's week 1 and I bet Sproles has never heard the Coliseum get that loud. Let's chalk those up to jitters and move on.
Legedu Naanee - 5 catches, 49 yards. Did he get a single easy catch all night? Everything was either an impossible catch that he made, or a double-catch that he had to make because he was bobbling it. Needless to say, he played his heart out. His speed and presence of mind should also be praised, because when he got the ball during the two minute drill he scampered over to the sideline to stop the clock and save a timeout. As he always does, Legedu made a big impression on me and I'm happy to see him being incorporated as a bigger part of the offense.
Vincent Jackson - 5 catches, 56 yards, 1 rec TD. The Chargers tried to creatively get him involved early in the game, but he didn't look great until he was out there running normal routes. He made a couple of big catches for first-downs, and his touchdown catch was a thing of beauty. When the Chargers face teams that do not have shutdown corners, I'll be expecting big games from VJ.
Antonio Gates - 5 catches, 83 yards. The only reason Antonio is a Bolt this week is because I'm not 100% positive that Philip's interception bounced off of his hands. It came out so sharply that it seems more likely that it was tipped away by the defender that was draped all over Gates. He also gets praise as the only guy who seemed get open all night prior to the fourth quarter.
LaDainian Tomlinson - 13 carries, 55 yards, 1 rush TD. LT looked significantly better than the 2008 LT to me. He was just fast enough to get to the corner, made a couple of guys missed and ended up with a decent 4.2 YPC. The fumble was only slightly worrisome, but I don't expect to see any more of that from him. So why was he on the sidelines during the final drive? The report from the locker room is that LT rolled an ankle and was limping around noticeably after the game. Get ready for another season of LT fighting through injuries, Chargers fans.
Defense
Stephen Cooper - 13 tackles (1 for loss), 2 passes defended. The only guy on the Chargers defense that could make a tackle in the first half. He also forced a Darren McFadden fumble and recovered it himself in the 2nd quarter, which led to LT's 1 yard touchdown run. I apologize for all of the hype I gave to Kevin Burnett in the preseason, Stephen Cooper is clearly the best LB on the team.
Quentin Jammer - 1 interception. Not only was the interception quite nice, but the most important stats here are the ones that are missing. Quentin had zero tackles because the receiver that he was covering for 95% of the game (Darrius Heyward-Bey) was held without a single catch. There's only a few shutdown corners in the NFL, and Jammer is definitely included in that group.
Eric Weddle - 6 tackles, 1 pass defended. Typical Weddle performance. He was all over the field, never missing a tackle, all game. Weddle very rarely is out of position and almost never gets beaten on coverage. His knockout hit on Johnnie Lee Higgins should've been the nail in the coffin for the Raiders, but poor coverage on the next play led to an easy 57 yard TD pass for JaMarcus Russell.
Ogemdi Nwagbuo - 3 tackles (1 for loss), 1 sack. I haven't reviewed the game, but I think the biggest halftime adjustment the team made was to take Travis Johnson out and put Nwagbuo in. Travis looked decent against the run, but offered no push at all on pass plays. Nwagbuo was the complete package, and his little bit of pressure certainly helped. He may be the Chargers future NT, but right now I'd keep him as the starting DE until Cesaire has a chance to get back to 100% and work with the team a little more.
Dolts
Offense
Play-calling. Look, I'm not a genius. I don't pretend that I could call a better game than Norv Turner. However, I believe there is something predictable and dated about Norv's style of attack. The two-TE packages with a FB and runs up the middle don't work for this team, for whatever reason. Maybe Hardwick isn't a big enough Center. Maybe the problems at RG are to blame. It doesn't matter. What does matter is that it's become very evident to Chargers fans how this team should be run on offense. We have one of the smartest, most accurate QBs in the league. If he has to throw the ball constantly out of the spread formations at the end of each game anyways, why not just start there? With VJ, Chris Chambers, Malcom Floyd, Gates and Naanee, the team certainly has the horses to run it. Those are 5 players that absolutely cannot all be covered on the same play by the defense. Throw them out there and let Philip pick the defense apart by finding the open man. Use the pass to set up the run. The 2009 San Diego Chargers should look like "The Greatest Show on Turf" Rams from the late 90s and early 00s, but instead Chargers fans only get glimpses of that offense in the fourth quarter after they've already endured 3 heart attacks and more 3 & outs than they'd care to remember.
Offensive Line. Granted, by the end of the game they had nobody in reserve and were playing with two backups, but even before that they didn't look all that great. Especially compared to the Raiders offensive line. They couldn't run block at all (which was the reason for all of the toss plays), but their biggest transgression was almost getting the franchise QB killed. Marcus McNeill and Kris Dielman, two former Pro Bowl linemen, couldn't stop Richard Seymour (2 sacks) when they were double-teaming him. In total, the Chargers gave up 3 sacks and let Rivers get hit at least 2 more times on top of that. Philip did them a favor by getting rid of the ball at least twice when it was obvious that he was going down. The offense cannot be effective unless the team wins the battle at the line of scrimmage, or at the very least gives Rivers a pocket to throw from. They did neither against the Raiders.
Jacob Hester - 1 catch, 5 yards. I suppose he could be lumped in with the offensive line, but I'll put him here. He looked really slow last night. That caused him to be late on blocks for both Sproles and LT. He barely got anything out of the screen pass even though there was ample space and blocking. I hope he gets faster as the season goes on at identifying his man and getting to him, because last night's performance was a step back from where he was in the playoffs in 2008.
Defense
Pass-rush - 1 sack. I revoke Ron Rivera's genius status until I see something better than that on the field. Where was the creativity? Where was the aggressiveness? I don't know that I ever saw more than 5 guys blitzing except on very obvious passing downs. Nwagbuo was the only Chargers player to even touch Russell all night, and that sack had at least something to do with the good coverage downfield. Shawne Merriman looked impotent, Shaun Phillips looked like he was facing a lot of double-teams and Larry English had a bull's-eye on his back whenever he came into the game because of how poor he was in coverage. This defense was completely and totally under-prepared at the start of this game.
Clinton Hart - 2 tackles. Just an atrocious game for Clinton. Once again, he showed that he is a below-average SS in the NFL without a good pass-rush to support him. He had countless missed tackles and couldn't defend Zach Miller if his life depended on it. He clearly missed the over-the-top coverage on the deep pass to Louis Murphy, and his finger-pointing while the play was going on was childish and selfish. I don't think he could've had a worse game if he tried.
Shawne Merriman - 5 tackles. I'll keep this short. Shawne looked bad out there. He couldn't get a pass-rush going against one guy and did appear to be double-teamed at all. His aggressiveness led to penalties, missed tackles and bad positioning. With that being said, it was his first game back from a serious injury. He gets a pass from major criticism this week.
Kevin Burnett - 3 tackles. Apparently the Raiders knew something we didn't going into last night's game. They played Burnett like a fiddle all game. A lot of Zach Miller's 6 catches for 96 yards came as a result of Burnett being completely lot in coverage. Perhaps we should simply chalk it up to nerves or being in a new system, but in his first week Kevin offered very little improvement over Tim Dobbins. The Ravens will undoubtedly watch this game and test Burnett mercilessly next week.
Larry English - 1 tackle. I'm not sure if it's because he missed so much of training camp with a hamstring injury, but Mr. English appears to still be playing catch-up. He stood out all game as somebody that was being asked to play coverage, but had no idea how to do it. Also, he provided very little as far as getting pressure on the QB. Somebody needs to teach this kid a spin or swim move. On one play that defined English's entire game, Larry started blitzing the QB before stopping half-way there because he realized he wasn't supposed to let the TE go. He turned around and realized Miller was too far away to catch, then turned around again towards Russell to try and start the pass-rush again. At that point, Russell was already throwing it and English was the only guy on the field standing in one spot and looking confused.
Health - Chargers fans know better than most how important a team's health can be. With the Raiders hitting like anvils all night, a few players watched the 4th quarter comeback from the sideline. According to Kevin Acee of the SDUT, Nick Hardwick was wearing a boot after the game (ankle), Louis Vasquez seemed okay (foot) and LT was limping pretty bad (ankle). Just from hearing that, I'm going to guess that Hardwick is out for some time and the Bolts may need to go outside the organization for another C/G (Tyronne Green is raw and Corey Clark is undersized). Not a great way to start a season where the #1 priority is to stay healthy for the playoffs.
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Castillo, Gregory, and Applewhite also came out early.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 15, 2009 6:12 AM PDT reply actions
I knew about Castillo and Gregory, not about Applewhite. Norv has a press conference scheduled for noon and I imagine we’ll get vague injury updates then.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 6:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Noon EST?
Anyway, I’m sure you’ll ave the updates when it happens
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 15, 2009 6:24 AM PDT up reply actions
PST
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for this John
Just off to bed now (late Tuesday night my time), but was hoping I’d get to read this before signing off for the night.
TAF (Tuesday Afternoon Football) was more of a torment than anticipated. Just a few things from someone still in the fairly early stages of learning the game
Pretty disappointed in Burnett, but hoping that he’ll settle down (the rap on him was about passing plays wasn’t it?, so the pressure will certainly be on him). I presume you’ve cut Travis Johnson some slack, but how long should we wait to see if he can add anything.
Rivera seems to have a knack for half-time adjustments, but the defense looked shocking early on. What were the adjustments he made, and what were the offensive adjustments? Seemed like we put together some better drives at the start of the third period.
How much was Floyd in the game, and how much did Chambers contribute (in terms of stretching the defence, creating space and the like – obviously he wasn’t getting the ball thrown to him much)?
Finally, I thought Sproles’ initial punt-returns deserved a mention in the bolts column – seemed to be one of the few things keeping us in the game in the first half
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True
-Sproles returns in the first half were fantastic and should’ve been mentioned.
-Floyd was in less than I thought he would be. It seemed to me like in the second half the team preferred Naanee, who has more speed and strength.
-This was discussed a little bit in the open thread last night, but the Chargers have seemingly had a knack for halftime adjustments since Marty took over as head coach. No idea why. I’m almost positive that Nwagbuo replaced Johnson at the half, but I don’t know what other adjustments were made. I’m convinced that Norv Turner goes into the locker room at half time and says “Screw it, let’s throw it all over the place.” Getting more receivers on the field and spreading out the Oakland defense is what helped the Chargers look better in the second half.
-Considering the lack of depth on the D-line and the potential Johnson has (former first-round pick), I think he has at least another 7 weeks to prove himself. All they really need from him is to be a solid backup, and he’s not far from that now. He’s just not meant to start.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 6:22 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Gates looked like the Gates of a few years ago
this is really good news
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Sep 15, 2009 6:28 AM PDT reply actions
except for the drops
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by Wonko on Sep 15, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cheers
Maybe you need to do bolts and dolts for the special teams as well – the punting didn’t seem too bad either, :)
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Thought about it
Perhaps I should’ve Kaeding deserves credit for nailing a 47-yarder from the dirt.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 6:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Nate the Great!
Nate the Great!
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 15, 2009 6:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Can we find out where Lo Neal is?
and if so, can we get a pool or something together to get him back? It’s clear that LT needs a big, explosive FB to clear more space for him to make his read then cut… every run he had he seemed to be right up in the backs of the OL, with no wiggle room to get free… Not sure LT gets anywhere near his old form without a FB like that, and, ahem, sorry Mr Hester, Mr Tolbert, on a great day, you are no Mr Neal.
by San Diego Viking on Sep 15, 2009 7:35 AM PDT reply actions
Not going to happen. If they don’t like Hester, which they do, they’ll go with Tolbert.
Let’s not pretend that Hester was the only problem last night. Nobody could block anybody on the Raiders.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Also
Neal cannot be a dominating FB forever. He’s 38 now.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions
yes
i don’t see neal doing much better. he’ll still be running into the backs of o-linemen just like everyone else.
also, I can’t believe hardwick’s hurt! he’s so reliable.
and castillo? sheesh. he, too, is a machine. i don’t think either has missed anytime in their respective careers.
oh, if i hear mike and mike or steve young say “fundamentals” ever again i will kill someone.
Hardwick – 5 straight seasons of starting at least 12 games. However, only one season of starting all 16.
Castillo – started 15 games in 2008 and 2005.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I was being facetious. i should have used the emoticon.
them boys can’t stay healthy.
on the positive side, i don’t think their backups could do much worse.
If Castillo is out, the defensive line could be completely screwed.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions
maybe, but he just hasnt done much outside of his 7 sacks in 10 games in ‘06. the chargers run and pass defense has gotten steadily worse. I just don’t know that its a huge deal. maybe i am just too full of hate.
also, i just read some cowboy message boards. they are pissed about olshansky not doing anything. 1 tackle. no qb pressure.
We tried to warn them that he wasn’t worth all that money.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
Experienced Depth
At least we have quite a few young guys on the D Line & O Line that might develop into NFL players in a couple years.
Perhaps signing a experienced player to add depth in the off season would not have destroyed the future of the team?
Typical early season Chargers game
Muck around until the win looks threatened, then wake up and play like a team to beat. Despite the injuries, SD is still better than the Raiders and most, if not all, of the AFC when they’re firing on all cylinders.
My wife thinks the Chargers are much better when they are losing, I think it’s the shift in play calling that makes the difference. Rivers and the rest of the team are much better when aggressive — with an over 30 LT, ISOs and passes to the flat just aren’t their strength any longer.
And what’s up with Cro and Hart pointing at each other while the receiver is running in for a TD. That was the only guy on their side of the field — each needs to take a long look in the mirror before pointing out another’s burn marks.
Big ups to Rivers. The guy was dialed in. Bouncing up from a sack to call a timeout, running around and managing his team, laughing off a taunting penalty, the guy was never overwhelmed and the Chargers are always in the game when the ball is in his hands.
by Leukadian on Sep 15, 2009 8:02 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd
I agree with absolutely everything you just said.
I think the difference is the play-calling and personnel. When they fall behind usually Hester and Manumaleuna are on the sidelines while players like Floyd and Naanee are on the field. At that point you force the defense to have 4 good cover corners and a LB/S to cover Gates. That’s almost impossible.
Also, when you spread the field like that with big receivers (Gates, Jackson, Floyd are 6’5", Naanee is 6’2"), you almost eliminate the pass-rush. If the defense blitzes, one of those big guys has one-on-one and Rivers can simply throw it up.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
how often did the raiders blitz, though? it seemed like most of their pressure came from a 4 man rush.
Exactly
With the spread offense, and with Rivers in the Shotgun, he has ample time to throw unless they blitz. If they blitz, Rivers throws the jump ball. Since they didn’t blitz last night, Rivers just waited for his receivers to create separation (Naanee specifically, who was being covered by a 4th CB or a LB)).
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn't see much seperation
Even though the win was ugly I thought it was one of Rivers better games. There were not many plays were any of the receivers created any seperation. Even when Rivers completed passes to the WRs they were usually blanketed. Most of his passes were thrown were only a charger could catch it. The pick he threw was thrown into a small window for Gates and still hit Gates in the hands. And two 4th quarter td drives (77 & 89 yds) to win it.
I was dissapointed in our “talented” group of receivers lack of ability to get open last night. And while the O Line by no means played well, the receivers lack of getting open forced Rivers to hold on to the ball longer than you are able to against most NFL defenses, making the O Line look even worse.
Naanee kept getting open on crossing routes. Floyd was pretty open on his catch. Chambers and Vincent Jackson were going up against 2 of the best CBs in the game.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Naanee played great
Naanee played great and made some big time catches, but it did not look like he was wide open on them to me. In my opinion Rivers made some very accurate throws and Naanee made some damn good catches. Floyd looked pretty well covered to me on his catch as well.
I will watch the game again later this week, maybe I am wrong.
You are correct on the Raiders having a couple top CBs,
That was what I thought
Naanee was well covered and just made some great plays. The Raider corners were blanketing receivers in man to man all night until the end; that isn’t going to happen every week in my opinion. That was really the story, as it meant they could stick the run too. Also the offense always takes a while to get in synch in the new season.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 15, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
OH SNAP!
“The Chargers have signed defensive end Andre Coleman to the active roster. To make room for Coleman on the roster, the team waived rookie running back Gartrell Johnson.”
lol
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 15, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
You need to spend more time at BFTB.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I DO NOT KNOW....
how to react to this game regardless of the win… I have nothing positive to say… Chargers should take this as a 0-1 start and rally back for the next couple weeks cuz on both ends they were being punked around… Lets all hope it was just the hostile environment and the fact that the Raiders were just tired of losing from the Chargers cuz if not The AFC West is definitly up for grabs this season… Maybe its just the Week 1 Gitters… Ugh! Can someone shine some words of wisdom about this? …
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by ChargersWitch on Sep 15, 2009 9:35 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
I agree on the bolts/dolts
except for Merriman. I thought he was just 1/2 a second slow to get to Russell. He was blowing up some of the blockers. He did make a pursuit tackle coming from the other side of the line. He looked effin strong but not as quick and I think the quickness will be back soon enough.
Wow, Clinton Hart looked so bad. I could not believe the amount of tackles he was missing. I thought it was DeAngelo Hall!
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Don't forget
This is Shawne’s first game back from major reconstructive knee surgery. He’s said himself and reiterated it today that he’s not 100%
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 15, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
one astute observation by the announcers
Merriman seemed to be dragging his bum leg a bit. That may take a few weeks (months?) to work through.
With that being said, it was his first game back from a serious injury. He gets a pass from major criticism this week.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
I really, really hope we see some play-call adjustments next weekend.
To beat the Baltimore pass-rush, Rivers needs to be taking 3-step drops and be in the shotgun the whole game, throwing all over the place. Use the Ravens’ pass-rush against them.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by Zach (maestro876) on Sep 15, 2009 9:54 AM PDT reply actions
May not have to worry about play calling
If the front 7 on defense doesn’t step it up big time next week the Chargers may not have the ball long enough to worry about the play calling next week.
Baltimore had 200 yds rushing this week (and had the ball for nearly 40 mins), they will grind it out on the Chargers unless some of the D Line decides to man up. The Raiders ran the ball all over the Chargers and won the time of possesion battle. Plus, unlike Russell, Flacco is actual able to and allowed to throw the ball some.
Time of Possession
Was fairly even. The Raiders won by like 2-3 minutes. I agree that the Ravens have a better running game and a better QB, but the Chargers CBs should slow down their passing game. Jamal Williams needs a big game next week.
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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
agree with most of the comments
This has to be a “pass first” team. If Norv keeps doing what he did most of last year, wtf? Show some imagination and ability to learn from mistakes.
Merriman is not recovered.
The O-Line cannot run block; hopefully the shotgun and some shorter routes will allow better pass protection.
The defense got much better against the run. But, if we had a competent QB on the other side, our lack of pass rush will kill us like it did last year.
We need a real SS. Hart looked awful last year, looked awful last night.
One more Dolt… ESPN!
ESPN puts a rivalry game on in prime time and then uses Homer commentators! What is that?!! Mike Golik and Steve Young (yes I know he’s a 49er, but still a Bay Area homer). Their idea of fair and balanced was wearing blue shirts!
It was bad enough watch my team battle hard and cope with adversity, but to have to listen to the Homer commentary was just too much. I was bitter half way through the first quarter. I had to turn off the TV audio and put Hank Bauer’s radio broadcast on. Thank you Hank Bauer!
ESPN is a national network. ESPN should know better. Either put on impartial commentators, or balance out the number of Homers so at least we get both sides of the story. Would ESPN get away with this for the Dallas / Washington game? I doubt it!
I didn't really think it was homer commentary
If I was an unbiased announcer I think I’d focus on the Raiders too. The Chargers were supposed to be a Super Bowl contender and the Raiders a sad sack lost franchise. Instead, the Chargers looked lost at times and the Raiders looked like they were playing with passion and purpose. That’s your storyline right there and the commentators were doing their best to cover it. Most commentators seems to gravitate towards a positive storyline for a team than a negative storyline. I would expect Chargers homer announcers to focus on injuries and lack of preparedness on the Chargers part. I would expect a Raiders homer announcer to constantly proclaim that they are going to the Super Bowl and JaMarcus Russell will be the MVP and talk about how the Raiders always play solid football like this.
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by Wonko on Sep 15, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The story as you laid it out has to be told, and they did. But they told the story from a Raider perspective because Mike Golic is a former Raider, and Steve Young is a Bay Area player. They know the Raiders.
Bauer told the same story from a Charger perspective because he’s an ex-Charger and San Diego commentator. When the entire country is receiving the broadcast ESPN shouldn’t provide only one team’s perspective.
Chargers were supposed to be a Super Bowl contender and the Raiders a sad sack lost franchise.
You’d think with pass success and the high expectations the Chargers would get at least a little consideration, but no. ESPN would rather bring in Al Davis’ cheerleaders.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 15, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't understand what you are trying to say.
Maybe I’m not understanding what Raiders cheerleading means. Because I never heard them cheer for the Raiders.
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Did not seem like Homers to me
I don’t think that Mike Golic ever played with the Raiders. Maybe you are thinking of his brother. And I would doubt that Steve Young is a big Raider fan.
I think that the announcers seemed pro Raider in the first half because (A) The Raiders were playing better than the Chargers. (B) As Wonko said the story was the underdog giving the Chargers all they could handle plus some.
Bob Golic?

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by John Gennaro on Sep 15, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah that's the guy!
Bob is his name? lol It would be easier for me to keep it straight if it was Homer.
by Trendsearcher on Sep 15, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
that's why i switched on the radio
and listened to the entire 2nd half on rock1053. screw ESPN’s scrub coverage.
by boltsgamedayfootball on Sep 15, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
they looked terrible
If I was dean spanos i would tell aj to be looking for a new head coach and have him tell norv what happened last night is un-acceptable. I saw absolutely no fire in any of the chargers except for a very few. This is apparently not a smash mouth type of team yet norv insists on running the ball for little or no gain play after play untill it’s third and long. Has norv ever heard of “the west coast offense”? Maybe run a reverse once in awhile? Something other than the same play over and over again? If I was rivera, I would have the defense come in on their day of and study film and make them run laps for every mistake they made. I would send a message, you want a day off? then earn it by knowing your assignments. It looks like they are still believing all the “most talented roster” hype and not doing what it takes to be the best. They think they can just show up and win without having to earn it. after last night, I wouldn’t bet on them winning the division. If they do, they won’t go far in the playoffs.
I though I saw a transformation
I saw absolutely no fire in any of the chargers except for a very few.
I saw them come together in that second half big time. In the first they were all happy feet and over pursuit. And then they got punched in the mouth a few dozen times. As they started carting Chargers off I could see a real transformation in the way they were carrying themselves.
I could see guys playing though their injuries (like Vasquez). To me it seemed like they found a new level of commitment to each other. And that was most apparent in the pass protection and the run defense. I liked what I saw towards the end of the game!
by Trendsearcher on Sep 15, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
This is just ridiculous.
I don’t like the way the Chargers won against a division opponent on the road in Week 1 of the NFL season. Fire the coach. I saw no “fire” which though it means nothing is very important to me. Also, the Chargers should have thrown out their game plan after a couple unsuccessful plays early in the game. The fact that they made half-time adjustments and won the game with two late touchdown drives means nothing. A reverse, now that would have shown some “fire.” Also, I’d treat the defense like a bunch of high school kids and make them run laps. After one game against a divisional opponent on the road which we won, I doubt we can win this division. Since I’m completely unfamiliar with this team, I also doubt we can have success in the playoffs.
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by Richard Wade on Sep 15, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
espn comment
I watched the game on the local channel, I don’t get espn. But, the adversity they were facing was their own fault. They were getting their butts kicked by the raiders, pure and simple. They expected the raiders to just roll over and play dead. They weren’t prepared to play a physical knock you on your butt game. We saw this in the preseason too, but everyone said well, it’s only preseason, were running vanilla plays. Well, it’s not preseason anymore and the O line can’t block a team of high school cheerleaders and the D line can’t get any pass rush.
Our local braodcast in San Deigo was still ESPN
Which commentators did your station have?
by Trendsearcher on Sep 15, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I still like
the offense. The Raider defense was tired by the end of the game and the last drive went to a prevent defense. I think that explains the late game success as much as the formation. You add Seymour to a defense and it has an impact; especially if they already have great corners. I hate the idea of going to a spread type offense, no way I want our 100 million dollar franchise guy with a patchwork line spreading out his protection. How are Cassel and Orton right now? Very few teams are going to have the defensive talent to pull off what the Raiders did last night; most corners aren’t up to covering our WRs man-to-man that often. It seems a little premature to conclude our offensive scheme is all wrong after one flat footed start that included a fistful of penalties on our second tier lineman. For all that I wouldn’t mind seeing a few more three receiver sets.
I also thought the DLine sold out some on the pressure to make sure they got their gaps covered. The Raider running game plus the lead really kept Rivera from unleashing the dogs. The injuries are a killer, but I still think this is a good squad. Except for Hart; he should be gone. Pointing while the ball is still in the air? Seriously? Start Spillman post haste.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 15, 2009 12:59 PM PDT reply actions
also.
i’m glad this kind of game happened early, so we can make adjustments and show what our weaknesses are. i’ll be even more pissed off if we play this terribly again , i.e. 1) horrible playcalling 2) no pass rush.
It is very difficult for me to comprehend what happened...
-Our D-line is trash right now…Even THE Jamal Williams was not destroying people as he normally is accustomed to doing…
-Merriman will need more games to hit a decent playing speed. Due to his surgery, he looked way too slow out there
-Apparently Cromartie has not resolved his poor play from last season…
-The bland playcalling on offense is typical…I am used to it, but on defense? Not good at all…
-LT looks better than last year, but our o-line has taken a leap backwards (last season, I never would have thought I said that)
-We need Hester or Tolbert to step up NOW! A good fullback would go a long way in helping out our o-line
-It is obvious that the reson all of this has happened is because Gartrell and Charly Martin are not on the field!
-Anyways, I think that this will be mostly resolved and corrected by week three or four; and our division will allow us time to sort things out. This week, we can win, but it may be closer than the Oakland game was…
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