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CHARGERS NOTES: English back in action, hopes to play Saturday
The outside linebacker was thrilled to be back on the field doing more than mental reps.
"I felt like I've been ready to go for a few days now," he said. "But it's probably good that I took the extra time, had a complete recovery and got back to 100 percent."
CHARGERS: Burnett sheds label and blockers
"Through two preseason games and training camp, he's been an exciting addition to our team," coach Norv Turner said. "He's got speed, he covers the field and he's a playmaker. He's going to help everyone on the defensive side make plays.
"That's why we wanted him and that's what we saw. The only thing you couldn't see much of was Kevin as an every down player. He's proven over two preseason games that he can handle it."
Cromartie continues to impress
Cromartie wasn't the only player making interceptions Tuesday. "Pick City!" the defense shouted after Kevin Ellison grabbed what was at least the fifth interception of the afternoon practice. Said Philip Rivers, who was intercepted on successive plays by Kevin Burnett and Cromartie: "That was brutal."
Bolts' Clary toughest on himself
"Jeromey Clary is a very underrated player," Turner said. "I like Jeromey and what he does for us. I know a lot of (fans) would disagree with me. We leave him by himself against a lot of good players. He held up great (in 2008), and I think he's going to continue to get better."
For sure, what was deduced as Clary messing up sometimes in 2008 was often actually right guard Mike Goff's inconsistency. The Chargers believe they have rectified that, but so far Clary has worked with two different guards in preseason games, as Kynan Forney and Louis Vasquez have taken turns being hurt.
In the sack is no place for Rivers, even in preseason
"During the regular season, I'm looking for continuity on offense, defense and special teams," A.J. Smith says. "During the preseason, I'm all over the place, looking around at players. If this happened during the regular season, I'd say we have a problem. I saw Peyton Manning went down four times. It's not pleasant, I agree. You can get hurt, but you can get hurt in practice. It torments me."
There's more to Chargers at tight end than Gates
The only thing that's certain is that they will be used. Toward the end of last season, the Chargers ran some three tight-end sets. Manumaleuna is now listed as a fullback as well as a tight end on the depth chart. And Wilson was a starter at the same position during his tenure with the Kansas City Chiefs.
When asked about his position this week, Wilson smiled and said, "Just put me in." Preference: "Playing."
Man Behind the Mask: Gartrell Johnson
"The thing I’ve learned the most from LT is how he carries himself on the field. He actually likes to check in with the defense during practice to see what everyone is doing. He’ll go over to the defensive backs and see what they are up to and then he’ll go talk to the safeties just to get an idea of how things are working so he can use that information to better his own game plan. That’s definitely something I’m trying to pick up on."
Castillo happy to feel healthy
Turner indicated Cesaire might not play in the preseason at all. Said Turner: "Whenever a guy goes a couple weeks and doesn't play, there is a level of concern. But I think he's going to be all right. I think he could play against San Francisco (in the Sept. 4 preseason finale) if that's what we choose to do. We've got him on schedule to be ready for the opener."
Opportunities arise for young linemen
With Jacques Cesaire, Ryon Bingham and Vaughn Martin out with injuries and Jamal Williams and Ian Scott resting Wednesday, the Chargers dressed just five defensive linemen Wednesday, and Luis Castillo was the only one of the group that has played in a regular-season game.
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Burnett
Burnett is a stud. He is making Cooper look like Wilhelm out there. I am a big Cooper fan, but in the last two preseason games, Burnett has looked head and shoulders above Cooper, and I have always thought Cooper was well above average. I am excited about this. Both Cooper and andBurnett should be on the field in the base and nickel packages. This is going to make our defensive packages so much more flexible.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Aug 27, 2009 6:49 AM PDT reply actions
Agreed
I really wanted to see Burnett at training camp, but about 2 minutes after “stretching” ended Burnett walked off and was gone for the next two days.
Burnett has incredible speed and cover skills, but what has impressed me is his strength and his nose for the football. He’s looking like an incredible bargain and somebody the Cowboys are going to regret letting get away.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Aug 27, 2009 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Tucker is on the PUP 8/25?
That is not a good thing for Tucker. He’s on my bubble list just from a cap perspective. He needs to be out there show casing his abilities, not on a training table some place.
Did I miss something?
Where do you see that?
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Aug 27, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
the PUP is an official list
that provides a roster spot exemption. Tucker is not on that list, he just missed practice, and I don’t think he has missed many.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Aug 27, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Tucker info from Acee’s Video blog 8/25
I thought PUP was a daily list they passed out before practices so the coaches could know which players were "Physically Unable to Practice" that session. In hard knocks last season they showed Edwards pulling list right before walking on the practice feild. I assumed it was the informal vehicle to track who is "missing practices". So can guys just play hookie for a few practices and not be listed on the PUP?
From your description of official list, it sound more like a formal report to the league like the Injury Report during the regular season. John is that in your media packet?
by Trendsearcher on Aug 27, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
PUP list
I don’t know if there’s a limit to the PUP list, but here’s my basic understanding of it.
A player can be placed on the Physically Unable to Perform list to stay with the team without counting against the 53 man roster. The play cannot be activated and moved to the 53 man roster before week 6 of the regular season, but must be activated to the roster before a certain time (week 10?) before he’s automatically moved to Injured Reserve, which puts him out for the rest of the season.
(no research was done to create this comment, so i’m probably wrong about a lot of things)
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Aug 27, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
more or less right
and there is some ability to put a player on the PUP during training camp and as long as you take them off in time, they are eligible for week 1. I think McNeill or Hardwick were on the training camp PUP last year and were taken off in time to be eligible week 1. I’m not sure what it buys the team to put a player on the PUP during training camp since you really don’t have the roster pressure until the preseason is almost over.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Aug 27, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
First and foremost, there are two PUP lists.
The PUP list that you may have seen in today’s news stories refers to the ‘Active PUP’ list.
The Active PUP is for players that have some form of injury that will prevent them from starting training camp.
If placed on Active PUP, a player can rehab and participate in team meetings but cannot practice.
A player has to be placed on Active PUP before he begins training camp…
A player on Active PUP can be removed from the list at any time during camp.
A player on Active PUP counts against the league mandated roster limit (currently 80).
And one of the most important rules, a player must be on Active PUP in order to be considered for Reserve PUP.
At the end of preseason, if an Active PUP player is still several weeks away from being able to play, the team may place him on Reserve PUP.
Reserve PUP players are not eligible to play for the first six weeks of the season.
Reserve PUP players do not count against the 53 man roster.
Reserve PUP players have a three week window after Week 6 to practice with the team but a roster decision must be made, either to activate to the 53 or to IR the player, within that timeframe.
If a player is activated off the Reserve PUP following Week 6, a roster move is required to make room . That’s what happened on October 17, 2008 when Dunta Robinson was activated from Reserve PUP and Chris Taylor was placed on injured reserve.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Aug 27, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thank you Wonko
So the team must track the day to day missed practices in another way.
I’ve heard the adage more than once “don’t practice on Thursday – don’t play on Sunday”. I wonder in pre-season if they change it to Wednesday & Saturday. In this case with Tucker I don’t think the miss holds him out against the Falcons and haven’t read about anymore missed sessions. He’s #2 on the depth chart maybe that is security enough to guarantee making the cut.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 28, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Who on the Cowboys was named Edwards last season?
Do you mean Wade Phillips? He was the head coach.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
herm edwards?
I think KC was on hard knocks two seasons ago.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Aug 27, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Does everyone at BFTB feel off today?
So many typos and mis-informations. I half expect Wonko to be a Norte Dame fan today.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Aug 27, 2009 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Right Herm Edwards in KC
Yeah Hard Knocks is the best, but the one year lag does get confusing.
The KC show aired last year, but it was for the season two years ago. Dallas is airing right now. I’ve been TiVoing them and looking forward to veiwing them as a block!
by Trendsearcher on Aug 28, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions
You're all messed up
the Cincinnati Hard Knocks is showing now. Dallas aired last year.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Aug 28, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions

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