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Do the San Diego Chargers Have a Problem Signing Draft Picks?

An odd question to be asking right now, with all of their draft picks signed, but you have to realize that I have zero memory.  I have to write these things before I forget to.

Anyways, everyone knows what I'm talking about.  A couple of days before Training Camp, when the Chargers had nobody but Brandon Hughes signed, the worrying came out.  Complaining about the front office.  Stating that the team always did this.  They were unwilling to negotiate and it had hurt us in the past.  Right? 

The example that always stands out in my mind is Quentin Jammer.  He was drafted with the #5 overall pick in the 2002 NFL Draft because the team desperately needed a cornerback.  He was big and played physical, so his transition to the NFL was expected to be an easy one.  However, because his agent and the team could not come to an agreement until late in training camp, Quentin was far behind the defense and didn't see the field until late in the season.

Now, after the jump we're going to go year-by-year to see if this is really a major problem with the Chargers front office or if it's just a concern the fans have creates themselves.

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First, everyone realizes that Kevin Ellison showing up a little bit late was an oddity.  Right?  The only picks that should feel comfortable enough in their roster position to show up late are first round picks.  So we're going to be focusing on them only.

San Diego Chargers Training Camp generally starts around the 1st of August.  Rookies and players that were on injured reserve the previous year will show up a week before, to knock some rust off or put some polish on their knowledge of the playbook.  However, generally speaking, if a rookie shows up on August 1st or before he'll be just fine.  Keep that in mind.

2009: Larry English, signed on 7/31/2009

2008: Antoine Cason, signed on 7/24/2008

2007: Craig "Buster" Davis, signed on 7/23/2007

2006: Antonio Cromartie, signed on 7/25/2006

2005: Shawne Merriman, signed on 8/01/2005

2005: Luis Castillo, signed on 7/26/2005

2004: Philip Rivers, signed on 8/23/2004

2003: Sammy Davis, signed on 7/24/2003

2002: Quentin Jammer, signed on 9/10/2002

2001: LaDainian Tomlinson, signed on 8/22/2001

 

Okay.  I've figured this out.  Do the Chargers have a problem signing first round draft picks?  No.  Not at all.  Getting 70% of your draft picks into camp on time is probably close to the league average.  The problem the Chargers have, and it's one shared with the rest of the NFL, is getting Top 5 picks into camp on time.  If you look at that list again, the only picks that came in late (Rivers, Jammer, Tomlinson) are also the only Top 5 picks made by the team.  This is not rare.

Top 5 picks typically ask for a lot of money because the teams that drafted them know they need them in camp.  This season, both the Lions need their first round QBs in camp to both save face and get them up to speed to be starters.  The Rams need Jason Smith in camp because, with the loss of Orlando Pace, they don't have any other option at LT.  It's not like they could manage without him.  However, Tyson Jackson still has not signed with the Chiefs and Aaron Curry has yet to sign with the Seahawks.  Both players will help make the defense of each team better, but they're also not necessary.  The team can survive without them in the meantime, and time lost in camp isn't as important as it would be for a QB.  So KC and Seattle will sit back and wait until the player accepts a more reasonable offer.

In the Chargers case, they were smart.  They had crippled themselves with the Ryan Leaf contract, one that was too high because they needed him in camp, and were not going to do it again.  They knew they weren't about to win the Super Bowl, so why not be patient and get a more reasonable deal done?  In Rivers case, it would've been great to get him in on time, but I'm sure the coaches saw Drew Brees lighting up Training Camp and knew that Rivers would sit for at least a season anyways. 

In summary, the Chargers do not have a problem signing draft picks.  No more of a problem than the rest of the NFL has anyways.  So put away that rookie contract slotting idea you have.  Unless the Chargers turn into one of the worst teams in the NFL, our rookies will be reporting to camp on time.

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Its Interesting that when the team was horrible and needed as many talented payer as possible

The only player that came in on time was Sammy Davis, but now that the team is loaded with talent and their first round pick will probably not start they have all come in on time.

The Chargers have to be doing something right with the draft considering only LT and David Bin are the only guys on the team that were drafted or signed by someone other than AJ Smith.

by Steve (Grey Suit) on Aug 2, 2009 9:58 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

As I pointed out

Davis was the only player during the bad years that was not a top 5 pick. He was the 30th pick in the draft.

The lower down the pick is, and the less necessary he is for the team, the more likely he’ll get in on time.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Aug 2, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

2nd round

of the supplemental draft.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Aug 2, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

nope

The team doesn’t have an issue, it’s just a nature of the beast. Players know that they need to get as much up front as possible or else they might not get anything down the line.

by Figboot on Aug 2, 2009 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Merriman

Had a ten day hold out and started the season on the inactive list. He didn’t start until week seven; I’m not sure I would go quite as far as saying you can show up Aug. 1 and be good to go. A lot depends on the player attending ‘voluntary’ summer workouts; Merriman didn’t out of fear of injury and it clearly cost him some field time that first year. It’s an excellent omen when the first rounder hits those workouts.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Aug 2, 2009 7:45 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

Merriman played 15 games in his rookie season.

He held out of minicamp because he didn’t want to risk doing anything without a contract in place. However he played in all but 1 game in 2005, and had 10 sacks.

by SJO on Aug 3, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

What I said

was he didn’t start until week 7; go back and look at his stats. He had a grand total of 6 solo tackles and one sack those first six weeks. Starting week 7 he took off like a tornado. Not signing him until 8/1 seriously impacted roughly half his season.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Aug 3, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

If you want to look farther back...

You could add Junior Seau to the list too. It is definitely a top shelf type issue.

I am intrigued by the NBA-type pre-defined rookie contracts based on draft position. I really do not like these un-proven kids coming into the league pulling more pay than 95% of the rest of the league. I think they should pay some dues even if it means shorter contracts for the first rounders.

by Trendsearcher on Aug 3, 2009 10:06 AM PDT reply actions  

I tried to cover the current administration only, AJ Smith and John Butler. I wanted to know if them and their staff have issues with signing draft picks and it came back with a resounding no. Any problems the administration before them had with signing Seau (also a Top 5 pick) is their own fault.

It seems to me that any team face with signing a Top 5 pick is in trouble. The Chargers just got that reputation a few years ago by being in the Top 5 in 3 out of 4 years.

Shorter contracts would lead to players getting to free agency earlier. This means older players would get even less of a chance in the league and teams trying to build through the draft will have issues. It would not work well for the Chargers and would make for a hectic league.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Aug 3, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

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