Bolts & Dolts: Seattle Seahawks defeat San Diego Chargers 20-14
This is an idea I always liked: wrapping up games by giving individual performance reviews. Usually I'd use this space up here to tell the story of the game (or a story from the game) and how the final score ended up where it was. Since this is the preseason, the story and the score mean absolutely nothing. Onto BFTB's new feature: Bolts & Dolts
Bolts
Offense
Michael Bennett - 6 carries, 21 yards, 1 TD. I never like Bennett until I see him with the ball in his hands. I think it's because I was excited for his potential with the Vikings and he never panned out. Is he a star in the NFL? No, but he makes a fine backup RB in a pinch (he fills the role for the Chargers as well as Mewelde Moore, another ex-Viking, does for the Steelers).
Billy Volek - 8/12, 122 yards. He looked as sharp, if not sharper, than the Chargers starter. He was accurate and poised, and looked like he was heads-and-shoulders above the other "backups" he was playing against.
Charly Martin - 5 receptions, 67 yards, 3 kick returns (24.0 average). I'm sold. This kid should get a roster spot. As sports becomes athlete vs. athlete, the guys that make the biggest difference are those annoying, gnat-like players that won't go away and make the athlete's doubt themselves. Those are also the guys you want on your team because they'll make everyone else step up their level of hustle. I'm convinced that there's no difference between Charly Martin and Wes Welker.
Gary Banks (3 rec, 31 yds), Buster Craig Davis (3 rec, 64 yds), Kris Wilson, (3 rec, 49 yds), Legedu Naanee (3 rec, 30 yds, 1 TD, 3 yds rushing). Seattle's secondary was beat up to begin with, and since teams are usually playing defense without a blitz it's a time where secondaries look worse than usual. With that being said, these four guys stood out to me. Naanee could replace Floyd without a drop-off. Wilson is a legitimate pass-catching TE that can also block, which is always a fun tool to have in goal-line situations. Banks always looks fast with the ball in his hands. Davis quietly pulled in the longest catch of the night.
Antonio Gates - 3 rec, 17 yds. I know that doesn't look very impressive, but if you watched the first series you know what I'm talking about. It's almost like Norv was testing him. With the defense focused on him, Gates out-quicked and out-positioned the defenders...and he made it look easy. This looked like 2007 Gates to me.
Defense
Kevin Burnett - 6 total tackles, 5 solo tackles. Didn't notice he was out there? You wouldn't the only one, but he was a breath of fresh air to me. I can see why they like his coverage skills, he covers like a shutdown corner. I don't know how he stays so close to them without getting tripped up, honestly. What I was more impressed with was everything else. He read running plays well and attacked. One of the surest-tacklers on the defense last night, which is why he ended up the leader in tackles. Reminded me of Stephen Cooper, and that can only be a good thing. When he was on the field with Dobbins, you could see he was the better player.
Brandon Hughes - 5 total tackles. He got burned on the play-action TD to Seattle's TE. So did Steve Gregory. They both bit on the fake and didn't see the TE behind them until it was too late. With that being said, Hughes got better as the game went on (and the first-teamers left the field). He's very smooth in coverage and is a much better tackler than he gets credit for. I don't know that he beats out Cletis Gordon as the 4th corner, but I'm no longer against that if it happens.
Antoine Cason - 1 tackle, 3 passes defensed. Just as we've been saying since the beginning of last season, Cason is good enough to be a number 1 cornerback on more than half of the teams in the NFL. He never gets caught off-guard and has tremendous ball-skills. He could probably be a good wide receiver if he wanted to be. If the Chargers ever moved him to Safety, as was whispered before the draft, he would be just fine.
Luis Castillo - 2 tackles. No stats, but he was slipping through the line and getting penetration consistently. He was effective at stopping the run game.
Mike Scifres - 4 punts, 46.0 average, 3 punts inside opponent's 20 yard line. No rust to knock off. Can I fill out my Pro Bowl ballot now?
Dolts
Offense
Charlie Whitehurst - 15/29, 193 yds, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 1 Fumble Lost. I wish I could've left him off, but I couldn't. While he did an admirable job of handling the clipboard during the first half, the second half didn't go as well. If he's hoping to catch on as a backup QB, instead of a third stringer, somewhere else next season he's going to have to put up a better performance against backup players. One of his interceptions was Buster Davis' fault, but his second interception was bad enough to count for two. Outside of his two-minute drill, which basically consisted of "Find Charly Martin, throw to Charly Martin", Whitehurst was just awful.
Gartrell Johnson - 5 carries, 8 rush yds, 2 rec, 15 rec yards. Another stake through my heart. While the Chargers running game was awful all night (21 carries, 55 yards), no other Bolts runner dipped below 2.0 YPC besides Gartrell. It seemed every time he touched the ball he was immediately swallowed up. The team's going to need to see more than that.
Chris Chambers - 1 catch, 4 yards. Where the heck was he? Completely and totally invisible against a poor secondary. The thing that made Chambers special, even when the Chargers traded for him, was that he was a deep-threat. I don't see that from him anymore and the corners that are covering him are not afraid to stay on top of him.
Nate Kaeding - 0/1 FGs, 2/2 XPs. Not a good sign to be missing FGs from inside the opponent's 20.
Defense
Shawne Merriman - 1 solo tackle. I know, I know. First game back. I'm sure he'll get better, but he looked scared last night. There was not a single bullrush and he avoided any piles. Maybe his knee is bothering him or maybe he remembers how much he hated missing the entire season last year. Either way, he's going to be disappointed when he watched the film and sees how hesitant he was.
Playcalling/Coaching - Zero Sacks. I know it's a preseason game and you don't typically blitz, but....no coverage sacks? No nothing? Seattle had 4 sacks and it didn't look like they tried very hard to get them. Preseason is a time to play with things and see if they work.
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My only "gripe"
is that I saw at least one play where Chambers was just overthrown the ball when he had his corner beat by at least 3 feet. So I really don’t think he did that bad.
by fwedo on Aug 16, 2009 9:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'll keep an eye on that
I recorded the game and intend on watching it again, probably tomorrow. I reserve the right to change any of these after watching that.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 16, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
^this. Chambers did beat his man badly one play, but the throw wasn’t there.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Aug 16, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big winner last night
was Wonko. I swear he threw up a comment during the replay just to beat me.
# of comments:
Wonko – 167
John (obviousman) – 166
sdsuaztec4 – 139
maestro876 – 58
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 16, 2009 9:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If you check out KO's tweets he was pissed like I thought he would be.
Hope he doesn’t get fined.
Man I don’t even know way to say. They forgot about me. Who knows why. Haha! I’m sure the haters have their ideas. I can’t call it.
I need some meditation 2 relax and disperse the anger. My hard work gets overlooked cuz nice guys finish last. In football that is. Go Bolts
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." - Earl Weaver
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Aug 16, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have had more comments
but the wife and I went to the grocery store at about the end of the 4th quarter. I didn’t come back until there were just a few minutes left in the 4th.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by maestro876 on Aug 16, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
excuses excuses
"You can't sit on a lead and run a few plays into the line and just kill the clock. You've got to throw the ball over the damn plate and give the other man his chance. That's why baseball is the greatest game of them all." - Earl Weaver
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Aug 16, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean I went to the store at about the end of the 1st quarter, no the 4th.
I didn’t come back until near the end of the 4th.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by maestro876 on Aug 16, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm typing like Wonko, today.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by maestro876 on Aug 16, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's important to stagger your thoughts
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
by Wonko on Aug 16, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially during open thread where things are off-the-cuff and you can get away with it
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
by Wonko on Aug 16, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And make some spelling mitsakes so you can correct them
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
by Wonko on Aug 16, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*mistakes
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
by Wonko on Aug 16, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonko should be fined
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 16, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Ditto re earlier comment on Chambers—he ran a good route on that deep ball and got open; Rivers just didn’t get it to him. Agreed that he was quiet the rest of the night. Speaking of quiet WRs—whither VJ?
It’s tough to be too hard on Merriman, which you acknowledge. Otherwise this post was spot on, I thought.
by punkaj04 on Aug 16, 2009 9:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it was Volek, but I could be wrong
I may be wrong but on the play that Chambers got open deep I believe it was Volek who threw the poor pass.
by JeromeB on Aug 16, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're right
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 16, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zero Sacks bothered me as well
I saw pressure which I guess is a good thing, but I was waiting the whole game just for one measly sack and was disappointed. Blitz or No Blitz, NOT EVEN ONE SACK!?
by Harsh_619 on Aug 16, 2009 11:27 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think the LBs stayed home
Most of the pressure I saw came from DEs
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 16, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SP got a sack
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
Robert Hunter
by Buck Melanoma on Aug 16, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boxscore says zero sacks
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 16, 2009 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They really only blitzed in the first quarter
It was nice to see some pressure from the first team, but they turned it off for the last 3/4 of the game. No suprise there were on sacks. Applewhite had the best chance and he was a step too wide and a step too slow to get there.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 17, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I coulda sworn I saw SP get one on Hasselbeck
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
Robert Hunter
by Buck Melanoma on Aug 18, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He definitely hurried him when he came unblocked after Burnett did a stunt that took out two blockers
But it did not result in a sack.
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
by Wonko on Aug 18, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
zero sacks, but the team’s stats show Phillips got 1 “pressure”.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 19, 2009 7:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about OL
Norv and Acee(by the way) said that “the OL looked really good”. I don’t know what game they saw, but I did not see any open holes for the running game and we started the first drive with a sack… Is that a really good OL? I gotta have somo doubts.
Other thing, slow starts are starting to grow on me. Rivers looks so rusty, you are right, Volek looked better, I am glad to have him as an insurance policy
by handsomeramm on Aug 16, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rivers will be fine
Oline looked okay for week 1 of the preseason. They looked, and stayed healthy. We know they have the talent.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 16, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rivers looked fine to me
I don’t think that Rivers looked rusty. If Floyd catches the ball on third down or if Gates doesn’t try to look cool by bringing down the deep pass in stride with one hand, the first team offense would have moved the chains a little more and probably put some points on the board.
I am not putting down Gates performance he made some nice catches, but on the long throw downfield he seemed to be trying to look to cool as opposed to making sure he made the catch.
by JeromeB on Aug 16, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he was playing safe
not necessarily trying to look cool. He could’ve made the catch with two hands, but he probably lands on his back if he does. I think he was more concerned about staying upright and healthy.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 16, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I thought that the OL looked sluggish & got very little to no surge. B/U’s weren’t any better — Reed owned Shelton a few times.
Not at all sure that Clary has the foot speed to be a tackle. He’s still struggling with speed guys.
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
Robert Hunter
by Buck Melanoma on Aug 18, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be too tough of on Gartrell
It seems every time he was in the backfield with a fullback, there were 9 dudes in the box with the safties getting it done. And that goes for LT too. My thoughts are it’s the preseason and we’re not going to audible out of a running play just because the line is stacked with defenders.
"There's a gleam, men! There's a gleam! Let's get that gleam!" - Marty Schottenheimer, never got his gleam.
by OPIAQ on Aug 16, 2009 12:48 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fair assessment
I think this is why the team eventually started to throw to him out of the backfield. I think, as a rookie RB that didn’t come out of a pass-happy offense at CSU, the defense knows he’s not much of a pass blocker and is trying to exploit that.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 16, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was my impression too
I’d like to see a few more runs for Gartrell next game. To be fair to the guy, most of the time it seemed like he didn’t have anywhere to run because there was so much penetration by the defense. I remember the play where he got swallowed up a split second after taking the hand off.
by gman87 on Aug 17, 2009 1:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gatrell had some decent runs up the middle
Defientely showed he can push a pile. I like when he jammed that pulling guard on the left screen. That will teach those blocker to push up feild!
by Trendsearcher on Aug 17, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My biggest concern
The OL looked pretty damn bad. Not much on run blocking, very little surge, & depth appeared very questionable. Shelton got owned by Nick Reed a few times, Clary needs to pick it up.
Say what you will about Gartrell, but it’s hard to get going when you’re met by several defenders in your own backfield.
Seattle played like they planned for us. We played like we wanted to make sure no one got hurt. Both teams accomplished those goals.
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
Robert Hunter
by Buck Melanoma on Aug 16, 2009 2:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think there was very much game planning by the Seahawks either
I also talked to offensive coordinator Greg Knapp about Saturday’s game plan, and he said that’s he more concerned with putting players in certain situations so the team can evaluate them more so then trying to establish a rhythm and continuity offensively.
Mora echoed that sentiment.
"We are going to try to master some of the things that we do," he said. "We’ve got some concepts that we’ve got to work though and schemes that we’ve got to iron out. There’s certain players we want to see do particular things. So that’s more important than game planning at this point."
by Mind of no mind on Aug 16, 2009 9:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bigest concern
We need an effing field goal kicker. Anything short of 40 yards for a Pro should be automatic. Kaeding will choke in a big game and the whole freaking year will be for nothing, just like the game against the Jets
by RTChargerfan on Aug 16, 2009 3:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah!
He’s only the most accurate kicker in the league, and has made 6 straight post-season FGs, has only missed one extra point in his career, and….
Oh wait.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by maestro876 on Aug 16, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Made the kick when it counted too
Tied the game against the Colts that sent it to overtime.
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
by Wonko on Aug 17, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention he's made 6 straight post-season field goals
and was personally responsible for all our points scored in the 2007 AFC Championship game. Nate looks to have gotten over the post-season bug.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by maestro876 on Aug 17, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CALM DOWN EVERYBODY
The offensive line will be fine, the kicker will be fine. One preseason game does not make a whole season.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 16, 2009 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think most of us know that.
And this pre-season opener was GREAT compared to the last two years.
Some people though just hate Nate and want him gone no matter what, and will jump on any occasion to knock him.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by maestro876 on Aug 16, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
How about when it counts Number cruncher?
by RTChargerfan on Aug 16, 2009 3:30 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It was volek that threw the pass
I remember the play, it was volek that threw the pass and on replay, the announcer said (and it looked like) chambers slowed down at the end. If he had kept running full speed, the pass would have been right on the money. But, he (chambers) gave up on the play before it was over. I know it’s pre-season, but it doesn’t seem to bother them to lose. It doesn’t seem to bother them to play poorly. Championship teams (like the steelers) play every down with intensity to the end. That comes from coaching. You didn’t see marty’s teams lolligaging. We’ll see if they play like that once the season starts. But, as the saying goes, you play like you practice. Looks like the steelers want no 7 more than the chargers want no.1.
by irishlad on Aug 16, 2009 6:42 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing wrong with Chambers effort
You might be confusing a couple plays from the game as there was nothing wrong with Chambers effort on the play in question.
It was the 1st play of the second quarter and Chambers had beaten his man deep on the right side. Volek threw the ball too flat and too far. Chambers did not slow down or give up on the play at all.
You could be thinking of an earlier play that the announcer did say that a charger player (Gates) slowed down at the end. That play took place with 5:22 left in the first quarter it was 3rd and 3 and Rivers threw deep to the right for Gates. Gates did slow up but the ball was well overthrown and I don’t blame him at all.
by JeromeB on Aug 17, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Kicker
I hope you guys are right about the Kicker. I will be rooting for him, but in the past, in a pressure situation he has failed. And about the O line, we kind of struggled @ rite tackle last year remember? We knew Mcneil @ left tackle was hurt but what about Clary? Hopefully he has improved. I think this is the year for Charger fans , and I hope they don’t fall 3 points short
by RTChargerfan on Aug 16, 2009 7:11 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Merriman sure didn't look explosive
While at the game Merriman looked like injured Merriman against the Panthers he lacked burst and appeared to be playing it a little safe. Hopefully it just lack of confidence in his knee, if not the air assault will continue on the chargers D.
The other concern has to be the run blocking I know 8 man boxes were prevelent but still 55 yards on 21 carries doesn’t exactly scream balance and improvement. All those fantasy guys worried Philip’s numbers would go down have little to be concerned, balance and consistent running game still appears to be more like a desire than a reality.
by TJBOLT on Aug 16, 2009 11:39 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Merriman’s performance is on par with his recovery
I’ve had knee reconstruction. It was a little more than a two year deal. 12 to 18 months out the stability was back, the strength was back, but it was still stiff. I imagine by the end of the season Merriman’s flexibility will be getting back to 90 or 100% of where it was.
But hey I rather have Merriman with one leg at 70% than almost anyone else, and certainly more than no Merriman at all.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 17, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't argue that
I really am not worried about it. I remember, during the 2008 preseason, thinking that Rivers looked a little tense when people got around his knee. I think Merriman is going to try a little more each week.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 17, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Charly Martin
You linked to the article: Rookie’s goal: Make Chargers say, ’We’ve got to keep this guy’; in a previous post.
I’d say he did just that. He’s now one of the players I’m msot looking forward to watching in the next game
by gman87 on Aug 17, 2009 2:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Burnett looked good too
I’ve been down on the Burnett signing. My uninformed impression was that he was a hand-me-down, second stringer from Dallas. I was wrong. That guy is no re-tread. He’s big, can move well laterally and looked above average in coverage. My questions were answered re: #99 – we will be the best ILB on the team (with the usual caveats).
It looks like Applewhite did put on the muscle in the last six months! Dang they listed him at 265, to me he looks closer to 275. How do you gain #30 of muscles in six months? That increase in size is gonna help him, but it almost guarantees his move inside. With Merriman, Philips and now English – Applewhite get’s ZERO reps at outside LB, he’s inside or he’s moving on. And frankly his edge rush didn’t look good enough to me.
Now Tucker AND Cooper have to be on edge. The team has said they’ve in essence frozen gate revenue at last year’s rates. From a business perspective if your top line is frozen – you have to make it up on cost cutting. The team will definitely not be spending big money on bench warmers this year. Tucker is gone for sure (I only hope they cut him early to give him the best chance to find another deal), Cooper???
Did any one else see the fire in Buster’s eyes? He is motivated! To bad if you compare his returns to Charley Martin’s, Buster didn’t look loose enough in the hips. That Martin is looking much like Wes Welker did at this stage. They have to find a way to keep and use a scrapper like him if he continues to produce like that. One less seat at the musical chairs for the rest of the bunch of WRs.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 17, 2009 9:30 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Burnett is absolutely not a re-tread.
He was allowed to leave Dallas because of a numbers game, basically. Too many ILBs, and Burnett had been hurt.
Cowboys fans I’ve spoken to think very highly of him and were sad to see him go. Matt Moseley, who worked for the Dallas Morning News and covers the NFC East for espn.com said he thought Burnett would be a pro-bowler for us.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by maestro876 on Aug 17, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Applewhite
What makes you think Applewhite can play ILB? He was a DE in college and has been a pass-rushing OLB since. Could you see Merriman making the move to the middle and still being effective? I think you’re way off base here. I think the team will carry 5 OLBs (Merriman, Phillips, English, Tucker, Applewhite) and 4 ILBs (Cooper, Dobbins, Burnett, Siler). LBs are the lifeblood of a blitzing 3-4 defense.
The idea that Stephen Cooper (the man who leads the defense and calls the plays, the best ILB on the team for the last 3 years) could be cut is absolutely and totally ridiculous. That’s like saying Tucker played well so Merriman might get cut. Not happening.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 17, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Re: Applewhite
I’m not sure he can move to middle and produce. I just know that he is going to get very little game time at OLB. Size has been one of his issues. He had the frame, but not the junk in the trunk. I can see that he has put on some size. I think he’d have an easier time trying to beat out a few of the guys at ILB and move up the depth chart on the inside.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 17, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Charly Martin would be further up the depth chart if he switched to FB.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 17, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And Martin might beat Hester in the Oklahoma drill!
Yeah it is more of a stretch to go from WR to FB, than OLB to ILB. And just like I think almost any Offensive Tackle can become a Guard, I think almost any ILB can move inside. OLB requires so much more technique and athleticism. Of course these are generalizations, but that’s my general opinion about those positions.
And generally I don’t think Applewhite ever gets to play first string OLB in San Diego. So if this guy is gonna stay here in San Diego, much like Osgood he’s gonna have to take a different path.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 17, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed Cooper has been a leader and solid performer
Just saying we can’t forget the NFL is a business. They cut Rodney and Junior way too soon IMO, but still they cut them. Just because Cooper was the QB in the past doesn’t mean someone else can’t make those adjustments after the radio cuts out in the helmet. Cooper didn’t have the luxury of a radio. The understudies have a much easier time coming up to speed without the wristband and sideline signals. Yeah Cooper’s been solid, but our run stopping as a team has not been top ten in the last two seasons.
You are probably right about 9 LB spots. And likely your nine are right too, especially if the cuts don’t improve the team’s payroll costs. I just think those two guys are in a money bind, Tucker more than Cooper.
by Trendsearcher on Aug 17, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Rodney and Junior
They saw the writing on the wall. They knew that the team was trying to overhaul at every position. here’s what changed with the team from 2002 to 2003:
-(Almost) the entire offensive line. Every starter except McIntosh at LT. He left the next year.
-The entire secondary. Both starting corners, both starting safeties.
-Lorenzo Neal signed as FB.
-The entire WR corps. Starters Conway and Dwight (and Alexander at TE) are replaced by Davis Boston, Antonio Gates and Eric Parker.
That’s a team in a rebuilding phase. Keeping Seau and Rodney around would’ve prevented them from ever winning a ring (probably) and they both knew that. The team did the right thing.
Plus, neither of them were producing for SD like they eventually would for NE. Seau sold out on almost every play. Rodney was slow and was looking for highlight-reel hits.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Aug 17, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll take Banks over Charly Martin
Not knocking Martin, but Banks has looked good for a couple of years now in camp. I think he’s ready.
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
Robert Hunter
by Buck Melanoma on Aug 18, 2009 12:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs

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