2009 Predictions and Hopes
So here we are, at the threshold of the 2009 season. Rookies report to camp on July 26, just 12 days away, with the vets reporting on July 31. As always, we fans are anxious to see how the old guys handled the offseason and what the new kids are going to bring to the table. On that note, let’s take a look at a couple of training camp battles that could be very interesting, then move on to predictions for the upcoming 2009 season.
ROG – Mike Goff is gone, having been allowed to leave after 5 years of starting every game. Now on the Chiefs roster, Goff leaves a hole to fill. The Chargers signed ex-Falcon Kynan Forney to a new 2 year contract and expect him to start, but 3rd round draft pick Louis Vasquez will have a lot to say on that subject. Vasquez is uber-strong with a reportedly nasty demeanor and has youth on his side. He came from the spread offense so he has work to do on his run-blocking, but I expect him to pick that up quickly. I’ll give Forney the Day One nod as the starter due to experience, but youth and attitude will win out by mid-season at the latest.
ROT – Here’s the real problem spot on the OL, IMO. Clary was something of a turnstile against speed rushers last year, allowing 6.5 sacks. Was this all Clary or a result of other issues on the OL? It looks as though we’ll get to see the answer firsthand, as he looks to be the guy at ROT again unless something unforeseen happens in training camp. Corey Clark? I’d be very surprised.
Safety – Hart says that he’s healthy and ready. I think he’s a career backup at best. If Ellison can stay away from the injury bug, he’s the guy who will line up with Weddle in 2009. Ellison is a very intuitive player with loads of football smarts. Anyone who saw him on the field for USC could see that he was the general. He’s a strong, sure tackler and plays faster than his timed speed. Barring injury or a poor training camp, he’s our man. I’m hoping for Rodney Harrison Part Deux.
DE – Castillo has one side locked up – let’s hope that he stays healthy and benefits from Shawne’s return. The other side is more disputed since Igor Olshansky’s departure to the Big D. In the mix are Cesaire, Coleman, Grennan, Ian Scott, Bingham, and Vaughn Martin. Cesaire and Bingham look to be the early favorites–they have the most reps and have played well in the past. I really can’t speak much to Coleman, Scott, or Grennan. At this point, I see them as rotational players at best. Martin has an uphill battle. Canadian college football is a much different beast from the NFL. However, Martin is something of a beast himself. His measurables are quite impressive for a man of his size and he seems to be a thoughtful, intelligent, hard-working player. He won’t start against
The Chargers gained depth at the CB position by drafting Brandon Hughes, RB with Gartrell Johnson, and OL with Tyronne Green, who can play either guard position and has some time at center. Demetrius Byrd will likely spend the year on IR due to injuries from a car accident just before the draft. UDFA Darry Beckwith may also find a spot in the linebacker unit, possibly at the expense of Matt Wilhelm.
So that sums up what I feel will be the primary training camp battles. Now on to the good stuff. Let the games begin!!
First, let’s look at a few stats for the 2009 season. I’m going to start with the Strength of Schedule (SOS) for both the Chargers and our opponents.
*Chargers .484 Bye: Week 5
Raiders .480 Bye: Week 9
*Ravens .438 Bye: Week 7
*Dolphins .594 Bye: Week 6
*#Steelers .434 Bye: Week 8
Broncos .480 Bye: Week 7
Chiefs .484 Bye: Week 8
*#Giants .527 Bye: Week 10
*Eagles .535 Bye: Week 4
#Browns .449 Bye: Week 9
#Cowboys .516 Bye: Week 6
Bengals .465 Bye: Week 8
*#Titans .508 Bye: Week 7
Redskins .492 Bye: Week 8
* indicates 2008 playoff team
# indicates away game
All of the 2008 playoff contenders that we face in 2009 have a stronger SOS than ours except for
The timing of the bye week is seen as important to a team, but the data doesn’t necessarily support that premise. Bye weeks can be a blessing or a stumbling block. They can give a team the chance to get healthy and catch their breath, but can also foul up momentum and rhythm. Data that I found suggests a slight advantage for teams following the bye week (52.3% from 1993 through 2009). Some teams show a marked advantage, others a marked disadvantage. For an example of a couple of our opponents this year,
Getting Shawne back, healthy and fired up, is an incredible plus for the Chargers. Combine that with a few good pickups in Kevin Burnett, our 1st round pick Larry English, raw but imposing Vaughn Martin, Kevin Ellison, and a full offseason for Ron Rivera to put his stamp on the defense? I see a markedly different defense than the one we fielded in 2008 before Rivera was handed the reins. Obviously a big part of the problem last year was our lack of a pass rush. It had a ripple effect throughout the entire defense. Part of the decline was the loss of Merriman, but I attribute at least as big a part to the soft defensive style of Ted Cottrell. Rivera will implement a much more attacking style and take the game to the opponent versus simply reacting to what the opposing offense does. I’m smelling blood in the water, ladies and gents!
On offense, ROT is the biggest question. Can Clary improve his game over 2009? He initially won the start more by default than stellar play. Let’s hope that the additional reps as a starter and a healthier unit overall will spell greater success for him. Is LT truly as healthy as he and others are saying? If not, will Norv move quickly to give more reps to Sproles, Gartrell Johnson, and Hester? We need a fresh, healthy LT for the postseason push this year. Has Gates really recovered from his nagging toe injury? Who will step up as Chris Chambers’ possible replacement for next year? All questions that I believe are going to be answered in a positive manner. Training camp will tell more about whether my hunches are right or just homerism.
Now for the predictions ……
Week 1: MNF, 9/14 @ Raiders
Does it get any better than this? MNF vs. the hated Raiders? What are we looking at now–12 in a row over these guys? I’ll lay off the Al Davis jokes here and just come at you with the facts.
Week 2: 9/20 vs. Ravens
Home opener against a tough Ravens squad. Their defense is consistently one of the best in the NFL, but they did lose a couple of key components over the offseason in Leonard and Scott. Gone as well is long-time DC Rex Ryan. Ray Ray is a year older and Dawan Landry must prove that he can come back from injury to replace Leonard. The veteran presence of Chris McAlister and Samari Rolle is gone from the secondary. On the other side of the ball, Flacco had a very impressive rookie year, but is apparently losing Derrick Mason to retirement. Will the sophomore jinx strike? Can Michael Oher become the LT of the future for them? I see this as a tough game, but the Chargers won’t disappoint at the home opener. Chargers win a tough battle, 27-21. BTW–I’ll be in attendance all the way from
Week 3: 9/27 vs. Dolphins
The Dolphins did a decent job in the draft, shoring up the secondary with picks Vontae Davis and Sean Smith. Getting Jason Taylor re-signed should be a boost to what was a pretty pathetic pass rush last year. Jake Grove is an upgrade over Satele at center. Will Pat White emerge as a QB? Pennington had a good 2008, but his weak and oft-injured arm is not the answer for the Fins. The defense was ranked 25th and 10th respectively vs. the pass and run. The Dolphins are traditionally better in the first half of the season, but they just won’t have enough firepower against this Ron Rivera defense nor a solution to the
Week 4: 10/4 @ Steelers
The Ravens game was tough, but this is the first big test of the 2009 season. Defending SB champions, in their house, with our last meeting a postseason drubbing of the Chargers. The
Week 5: BYE
Week 6: 10/19 vs. Broncos
Ah, the Broncos. Arguably the most talked about trade of the offseason is Cutler to the Bears. Who cares? Rivers owned Jay anyway. The Broncos added Knowshon Moreno to an already crowded RB stable. He’ll be the guy who gets the starting nod.
Week 7: 10/25 @ Chiefs
Another team with a
Week 8:11/1 vs. Raiders
Rematch from week 1, this time at Qualcomm. Once a year at the Black Hole is more than enough, thanks. By this time Jamarcus has lost his job to Jeff Garcia. Tenacious little bugger, isn’t he? Heyward-Bey is busy alternately nursing a sore hammy and tweeting with Ochocinco. The only bright spot is the running game, which has managed to put up some good numbers. It still isn’t enough. Garcia gets bloodied up by a swarming Chargers defense. What’s this – 13 in a row now? Chargers are off to their best start by far since Marty. Chargers win, 38 – 20.
Week 9: 11/8 @ Giants
I love to hate on Eli. I’ll never tire of it. It starts with the disrespect for the Chargers’ organization, moves through the sickening pandering to the Manning clan, and is reinforced by the fact that he’s just not that good and looks goofy. The Giants defense and a couple of miraculous catches are all that prevented the Patriots from going undefeated. Did Coach Shula send Coughlin a nice bottle of scotch? The Giants lost a big WR target when Plaxico went mental and tried to shoot off his package. Eli hasn’t recovered from that yet and I don’t think that rookies Hakeem Nicks or Ramses Barden will be able to do but so much to ease his mind this year. On the plus side for the Giants, Osi Umenyiora should be back healthy and they added to an already impressive pass rushing unit with the draft of Clint Sintim and offseason signings of Cris Canty and Rocky Bernard. Brandon Jacobs will be back to pound the ball with rookie Andre Brown as a change of pace. Beatty was a nice draft pick up for the OL. This game will be all about stopping Brandon Jacobs and protecting Phillip Rivers. I think we get it done. Chargers are 7-1 after this win, 27-24.
Week 10: 11/15 vs. Eagles
Did anyone have a better draft this year than the Eagles? Jeremy Maclin, LeSean McCoy, Cornelius Ingram, and Victor Harris. Not to mention the acquisition of Jason Peters. Quite a few folks have the Eagles listed as the NFC entrant to this year’s Super Bowl. I think they’ll be very good, but not that good. Much of their success hinges on the health of Brian Westbrook and DC Jim Johnson. I see another year of close but no cigar for McNabb. They do, however, manage to hand the Chargers their 2nd loss of the season and first in front of the home crowd. Eagles win a shootout, 48-45.
Week 11: 11/22 @ Broncos
I’ve already outlined what I feel are the Broncos weaknesses and not-so-bright spots. The 3-4 is not fitting well with the players, Orton is not the answer at QB,
Week 12: 11/29 vs. Chiefs
This story has already been told as well. Cassell is bruised and battered behind a leaky OL. Larry Johnson is back in diapers again. Tyson Jackson isn’t looking like the 3rd pick overall yet and Dorsey is still sulking about the
Week 13: 12/6 @ Browns
Brrrrrrr! It’s cold in
Week 14:12/13 @ Cowboys
Did the Cowboys even participate in the 2009 Draft? Their first pick wasn’t until Day Two, Round 3, Pick # 69. Jason Williams in a 3-4 defense? I don’t see it. The best value in their draft was Michael Hamlin in the 5th round. TO is gone, Roy Williams is gone, both Canty and Ellis were cut. Igor isn’t the answer at DE. He wasn’t in SD, he won’t be in
Week 15:12/20 vs. Bengals
The Bengals went out and quietly had one of the best drafts of 2009. While I would have been leery of Andre Smith, I also don’t make my living as an NFL GM. Smith has talent–it just depends on whether he wants to show up and work. If he does, he can be a very good OL. If not, he may go the way of Toniu Fenoti. I’m also not a big Maualuga fan, but he can be an impact player if he learns to rein it in a bit on the field and put in a lot of serious film study. I like the Michael Johnson pick. He should certainly breathe some life into a pretty anemic pass rush. Chase Coffman and Jonathan Luigs were both excellent values and address positions of need. Housh left for
Week 16: 12/25 @ Titans
Football on Christmas night? Thank you, jeebus!!! Take your pick of biggest offseason signings – Cutler to the Bears or Haynesworth to the Redskins. There is no denying that the loss of Fat Albert in the middle of that Titan DL is going to be felt throughout this defense. Sen’Derrick Marks is a load, but he’s also a rookie and no Haynesworth. Kenny Britt and Jared Cook were nice targets to grab in the draft. Re-signing Bo Scaife also helps the aerial attack. The Titans ground game is pretty potent. LenDale White can pound you into near submission. Chris Johnson is lightning fast and a touchdown waiting to happen at every touch. Who will throw the ball? Looks to be Kerry Collins again. I’ve heard nothing to sway me from that take. Neither Kearse nor Vanden Bosch are going to be able to create much of a push which means the secondary is going to suffer and Cortland Finnegan will be exposed for the overrated player that I think he is. Hope and Harper are both weak links. I do like the pick of LB Gerald McRath in the 4th round.
Week 17: 1/3 vs. Redskins
Geography says that I should probably be a Redskins fan. I actually tried in the mid-to-late 80’s, but it just never stuck. I for one am very glad. Since I just finished talking about the effect of Haynesworth’s loss to the Titans, it might be assumed that he’ll have just as much of a positive effect on the Redskins. I personally think that Snyder drastically overpaid for Haynesworth’s services, but that’s never stopped Dan before. He’s the Steinbrenner of the NFL, attempting to buy a championship with little to no regard for the future of the franchise or team chemistry. But I digress …..
Chargers complete the season with a win, 42-24, a 14-2 record, and the first seed in the AFC. The path to the Super Bowl comes through
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14-2 seems a bit optimistic
but optimism rules this time of year!
I suspect the game at Dallas a week after a game at Cleveland might be hard due to the consecutive long travel weeks. I also like to only count on a split with divisional teams this time of the year (except the hapless Raiders). So much uncertainty in Denver and KC, if they can build on last year, the could really challenge us in their yards, if they are in turmoil, they will be walkovers. I’m saying 11-5 at this time.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Jul 14, 2009 8:57 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I started at 11-5
but managed to talk myself into 14-2 as I was writing this article.
I feel pretty good about an AFC West sweep – @KC was my only serious doubt & I got over that one. ;-)
I think we can move the ball on Wade & shut down Romo.
Optimism rules!!!!! :-)
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
Robert Hunter
by Buck Melanoma on Jul 14, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
About the training camp battles
If Vasquez doesn’t win the job in camp, I have a hard time believing he could replace Forney midway through the season. The offensive line is one of the hardest places to win a job at the mid-point, because there is a strong preference towards unit cohesion and familiarity. Switching guys out part-way doesn’t help that. Remember Clary didn’t replace Olivea until well after the mid-point of the season, and that was only after Shane did such a terrible job for weeks that they had no choice but to bench him.
As far as Ellison, I’m still not convinced. Hart was decent when he was healthy and when we had a good pass-rush—remember 2007 when he was second on the team in INTs? Ellison may be a heavier hitter than Hart, but he’s certainly not better in coverage, which is more and more what teams want out of safeties these days. The time of the enforcer-type safety in the mould of Rodney Harrison is falling by the wayside in favor of guys who can cover tight ends and wide receivers. I’d still give the nod to Hart, and keep it there unless something dramatic happens.
by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 14, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree to a point
About the mid-season changes to an OL being tough to do. Vasquez has a learning curve regarding run blocking & may not be ready on opening day. Once he gets it, which will happen sooner rather than later, he’ll take Forney’s place. Otherwise, why spend such a relatively high pick (for AJ) on a guard? And not draft just one guard, but two.
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
Robert Hunter
by Buck Melanoma on Jul 14, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listening to quotes from A.J.
They are very surprised with how impressive Vasquez is. So I’ve got to think that there was no plan to start Vasquez this season when they drafted him that high. That doesn’t mean things haven’t changed, just that it doesn’t seem like draft position figures into the argument.
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
by Wonko on Jul 15, 2009 1:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
14-2 was my first thought
with early losses to pitt and balt., then the chargers running the table on thru the superbowl, but then again, im that way every year at this time
by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Jul 14, 2009 10:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm usually a cautious optimistic
Hope for the best, expect the worst. But, I keep getting the feeling that the team will never be anymore complete than it is this year. So forget the strength of schedule, forget any injuries that may crop up, forget bad bounces, forget tough breaks. This team needs to just go out there and get it done. They need to go out and show everyone they can dominate the regular season, roll through the postseason and win the Super Bowl. That isn’t to say that it’s make or break, that if we don’t win this year, we never will because I’ve seen teams win it all that weren’t the best team in the league. It’s just that this year is our best year to go out, whoop everyone and get talked about as one of the greatest ever. That’s an opportunity that doesn’t come along very often. So, anything less than that will be disappointing because it’s a missed opportunity. I’ll still be happy with a division championship and 1-3 playoff wins, but it will still be disappointing.
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
by Wonko on Jul 14, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
predictions
I think we’ll get to 11-5 no problem… If we sweep our division (which we should) we’ll only need to go 5-5 against non division. Seems reasonable.
I think Charger fans are overly optimistic when it comes to Ellison… he’s a 6th rounder and 11 other safeties were taken before him. To expect him to be a productive starter right out the gates is a reach. I think we need to be prepared for another year with Hart.
Really, there are five clear questions going into the season:
1) Will Merriman’s return and the addition of English be enough to bring the heat? I would say yes, we will see a dramatic increase in sacks this year.
2) Will the additional heat solve the overall issues we had on D, specifically the pass D up the middle? Tights ends had their way with us, and we did not upgrade our safeties/middle linebackers. Maybe Burnett may be an upgrade ofver Wilhelm? I am not totally sold yet, but I do think the increased pass rush will hide some of our other defensive deficiencies.
3) Does Tomlinson still have gas in the tank. I’m a believer. I think he still has another 2-3 years of being very productive provided that he gets better blocking, which leads me to…
4) Can the O’line produce this year? This the other big question I am no 100% sold on yet. If they can gel, watch out, this offense will be unstoppable. If they struggle, we will struggle to be consistent and to close out games… I do think this is Forney’s year with Vasques getting some spot duty if someone is hurt.
5) Will Cromartie have more picks than babies this year? I think we all want to see this guy do his thing on the field – he is electric. I guess he’s electric off the field too
by truheeyo on Jul 14, 2009 12:47 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How are the Bolts going to sweep the Division?
KC gave away two games last year, otherwise, SD would have been a 6-10 team. KC is much improved, actually more depth in the secondary, at LB, and look at the film of Cassel last year! That wasn’t just Moss and Welker making plays. I’m a huge Thigpen fan, but Cassel to Bowe, Engrahm and Bradley with LJ looking to earn some $$ is going to be tough to stop.
I do think the Bolts will be better with Merriman back, but y’all never should have gotten rid of the best QB in the league, Drew Brees, or Junior Seau!
LT and “look at that little Sproles go” should have a good year! Rivers is OK, but how the H.E. double hockey sticks do you let Drew Brees go for him?
It’s pre-season though, any team can be 16-0 mathmatically. I hope the AFC West kicks the NFC East’s ass this year! The only problem is that Denver has emploded, and the Raidaaa’s are, well, the Raidaa’s. If Jeff Garcia gets to play, then watch out, otherwise, consider them a bye week.
KC is a HUGE ??? this year. They coud be 4-12 or just as easily 12-4, that’s why they play the game.
As a KC fan, I see you guys as follows:
Week 1: MNF, 9/14 @ Raiders
Chargers win easy – consider this a bye week (unless Garcia gets to play)
Week 2: 9/20 vs. Ravens
This is a tough one, Ravens have the edge, likely result – L, SD 1-1
Week 3: 9/27 vs. Dolphins
The Tuna has changed things in Miami, likely result – L, SD 1-2
Week 4: 10/4 @ Steelers
And I thought KC had a tough schedule going through the quanlet of playing the entire NFC East in four straight weeks. Likely L – SD 1-3
Week 5: BYE
Week 6: 10/19 vs. Broncos
Broncos have imploded. I mean really, trading the franchise QB? Likely result – W, SD 2-3
Week 7: 10/25 @ Chiefs
Arrowhead will be rocking by this point in the season, absent another Dwayne Bowe gift wrapping session, likely result, L, SD 2-4
Week 8:11/1 vs. Raiders
How many bye weeks can one get in a year? Likely result – W, SD 3-4
Week 9: 11/8 @ Giants
At home, I’d give you this one, but the G-men have one of the best D’s in the league, at home, I have to go with NY, Likely result, L, SD 3-5
Week 10: 11/15 vs. Eagles
This is a big ?? game, will Philly play up to their talent level, look at last year, I like SD at home in this one, just a gut feeling, “that’s not my yard” McNabb was benched last year, may happen again here. SD 4-5
Week 11: 11/22 @ Broncos
Remember when Mile High was a home feild advantage? Did I mention Denver has imploded? Check out Mile High Report, they think Kyle Orton is better than Matt Cassel, likely result, W, SD 5-5
Week 12: 11/29 vs. Chiefs
At this point last year, Cassel was throwing for 400 yards a game. We’ll go with the split though, since this is a SD fan site, with the W, SD is at 6-5
Week 13: 12/6 @ Browns
The road to the SuperBowl goes through Cleveland baby! Naahhh, SD wins this one easy, SD at 7-5
Week 14:12/13 @ Cowboys
Cowboys in December? Very beatable! SD wins this one at Jerry’s wonderland, SD at 8-5.
Week 15:12/20 vs. Bengals
The Cincinatti Cowboys…well, the players not good enough to remain a Cowboy, enough said, SD wins, SD at 9-5
Week 16: 12/25 @ Titans
Titans too tough at home, SD at 9-6
Week 17: 1/3 vs. Redskins
How many bye weeks does a team get in a season? The Skins openly tried to get Sanchez and Cutler because their QB sucks. SD wins, and is 10-6
Well, there’s a Chief’s fans perspective, you all are going to the playoffs. I’m just hoping that KC can match it!
Negative Ghost Rider the pattern is full...
by cpa913 on Jul 15, 2009 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dig you Hopes
I appreciate all the the hard work here and I Hope you are right but I too think you may have set the bar a bit high, but I was thinking 12-4 – but it is of the offseason and optimism will never be higher.
Good job and good read.
by BoltBunker on Jul 14, 2009 2:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I like to set it high
Makes me feel like I’m doing my part to push the team. Besides – if not now, when? We’re as loaded as we have ever been. I looked for more losses & just couldn’t make a convincing argument to myself why we would lose to the “maybe’s”.
Thanks for the compliment. First attempt at one of these.
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
Robert Hunter
by Buck Melanoma on Jul 14, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
15-1
You heard it here first.
Fire Bud Black!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 14, 2009 4:49 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh ya
Great article!!!
Fire Bud Black!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jul 14, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im with Ken619
with everything ive tried to analyze (in my own way) i’ve been getting 13-3….. But wth why not 16-0 if were gonna be optimistic about it might as well shoot for the best record!!!
Cant wait for it to start. Im feelin it through my veins… All the waiting is ugh … You know that feeling….
***MZ LANZ***
by ChargersWitch on Jul 15, 2009 12:04 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
A mistake that needs correcting
I mentioned Joe Staley as a Brown OL. Should have been Joe Thomas. Doh!!
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
Robert Hunter
by Buck Melanoma on Jul 15, 2009 4:40 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Depends on which one you're talking about.
Love we shine like a burning star
We're falling from the sky tonight
by Zach (maestro876) on Jul 15, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buck was talking about the one that's married to that (Non-Beyonce) chick from Destiny's Child
Natrone was not.
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
by Wonko on Jul 15, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad
It was this comment that had me confused “Witten is quite likely going to be his main target and force the passing game to be somewhat one-dimensional”.
Isn’t the loss of the other Roy Williams sorta addition by subtraction?
by Natrone Bomb on Jul 15, 2009 3:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
this guy
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
Robert Hunter
by Buck Melanoma on Jul 15, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First post from Chiefs fan.
Here’s my obligatory “You guys suck!!!”
Now that that’s out of the way, nice article, and very well thought-out responses. I need to check out what other teams are saying on SBNation before getting TOO full of my buddies over on Arrowhead Pride. After reading your responses, here, I’d say that it’s more about being SBNation affiliates than just my wonderful Arrowhead Pride people. Nice to read you guys’ stuff.
My personal view on SD before and since the draft is Turner’s crew seems to treat symptoms more than root causes. No disrespect to either Merriman or English, but I think the fortunes of the pass rushers rise and fall on the backs of the d-linemen (and scheme), more than the pass rush rising or falling on the backs of a flashy pair of LBs. So when I saw the English pick and how little attention was paid to the d-line, I thought this was just another team Norv was running into the ground. I appreciate the analysis you guys have done.
With the exception of a notable playoff game when LT was thought to be pouting on the bench, I wouldn’t say a deterioration of his skills is the issue with LT’s game (He played nicked-up that season). I’m not at all certain that letting Goff go and adding Forney is going to solve LT’s problems. Don’t know much about Forney, but apparently he’s played a lot of West Coast? We Chiefs fans are thinking that the blocking scheme change is why Goff struggled in SD, and the Erhardt-Perkins ideas of the new brains in KC are a GOOD fit. Reports from OTAs and minicamp had the rookie DEs doing very well in 1-on-1’s until they faced Goff. Waters also took ’em to school in his appearance at minicamp (He skipped voluntary OTAs).
Funny to hear you guys talk about ROT being a big issue. We’re talking about ROG being a big issue that GOFF addresses for US, and crossing our fingers that a lighter Damion McIntosh at ROT will be better against the speed rush off the edge. The right side of the KC O-Line was pretty porous last season. You guys are probably a lot like us – the offense was OK last season and we at least added a new guard, (KC also drafted a tackle for depth this year.) so you (and we) have some cause for optimism that SD’s on the up-tick on o-line.
Chiefs will be very dangerous this year. They showed last year that they can play with anyone for a half. The trouble with last season was they could NOT play with ANYbody for TWO halves! I think the talent is there, the switch to 3-4, and a few quiet moves on personnel have them much deeper in the front 7, and Haley has them better-conditioned and practicing at about twice the speed and intensity as Edwards did. As a longtime follower of offseason activities, this is the best-managed Chiefs organization I’ve seen since Carl Peterson teamed up with Marty Schottenheimer, and some of the knuckleheaded crap from King Carl’s era is simply ABSENT. Hasn’t coached one game, yet, but Pioli and Haley have been very impressive, so far. Can’t wait for the season to start!
Oh, and when you look at the Ravens game in Week 2, keep in mind that they’ll be coming off a painful loss. ;o)
by hmills110 on Jul 15, 2009 11:51 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I get an obligatory back at ya!!
Listen, I am married to a Chiefs’ fan, so I have to be careful when & where I say that!!
Good reply – I just don’t see things the way that you do. Big surprise, huh?
Cassell is a system QB – hell, I guess most are these days. But I don’t see him fitting as well in Todd Haley’s offense (and it will be Haley’s, make no mistake) as he did in McDaniel’s. For one thing, he had understudied there for a few years. He also had a better OL & better talent at WR. Now TG is gone, too? I predict a long year for Mr. Cassell.
Tyson Jackson at 3rd overall? We’ll see. He took way too many plays off at LSU for me to be in that camp. Dorsey is sporadic as well. Your pass rush will remain pretty anemic again this year, while ours is going to get a big shot in the arm.
One guy that you have noticeably left out is Vaughn Martin. Who? That kid from Canada? He IS a big part of addressing our root causes. Say what you will now, but this guy is going to be an impact player. And speaking of impact players – Shawne isn’t the kind of guy who’s fortunes go up & down. He got injured, but before that he was consistently at the top. Guys like him come around very seldom. You know that – how many Derrick Thomas’s have passed through KC’s doors?
Goff is long in the tooth. He’ll be serviceable for you guys for another 1-2 yrs. Vasquez is our future at ROG. MacIntosh is backup talent – with or without the weight loss.
Tell Larry to just keep the diaper on. He’ll need it when he visits Shaun Alexander at the old has-been’s home. :-)
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
Robert Hunter
by Buck Melanoma on Jul 16, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Explains what they mean by "better half," Buck.
Heh. Congratulations on your brilliant choice for a spouse.
As teammates, Jackson and Dorsey won a championship in LSU. Apparently they were “on” for quite a few plays. Laziness is a non-starter in this discussion of those two. With the switch to 3-4, I really expected to see Chiefs go nose tackle, but then I expected them to trade down with that #3, which, of course, they couldn’t. Technically a reach at #3, I think it was probably appropriate, if unavoidably awkward? The closest thing to a trade for the #3 pick was the Jets trading up to #5 for Sanchez. The Jackson pick and switch to 3-4 puts 3 true widebodies in the middle, and a pair of ‘tweeners on the edge, instead of two widebodies and two ’tweeners. They’re basically going to be bigger up front, even if they only send 4 rushers. But I think they’ll send 5 pretty much all day.
It will be interesting to see how the KC d-line does things. I think it’ll look more like a 5-2, with both outside linebackers crashing the line like defensive ends a good chunk of the time. They’re setting Dorsey up to get a lot of 1-on-1’s versus the left guard, and Tank Tyler will be cheating toward the strong side more than you’d expect a traditional 3-4 nose tackle to do. The linemen are generally going to be expected to control the middle more, and the LBs will be expected to finish plays in space (unlike that Tampa-2 D they ran last year, where the d-line failed to finish plays the scheme expected them to finish).
Maybe you’re right about Vaughn Martin. Part of why I stick my nose in is to pick up knowledge from others. He’s definitely not a high-profile acquisition, but it’s those quiet things you do in the trenches that tend to have far-reaching consequences that NObody, except the players they FACE, actually understand, and I appreciate it when people have something to say about those moves.
As for Cassel being a system QB, the thing that’s striking to me is how much spread New England ran last season, and how Cassel did many of the same things there that KC had Thigpen doing. I’m sure he’ll do OK. And he’s really opened some eyes in KC, the way he’s handled himself this offseason. If his performances are half as good as his level of preparation, he’ll be worth every nickel the Chiefs are paying him.
But there SURE are more "if"s in my QB discussion than there are about Rivers. I think Rivers is the kind of brat that I hated playing street ball with (whining and arguing calls all day), but DEFinitely a top-drawer NFL QB.
by hmills110 on Jul 18, 2009 4:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You need alot of luck to win that many games. I see 10-12 wins.
by SJO on Jul 16, 2009 2:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So did I initially
Then I did a little more homework & looked a lot harder. I don’t think that I overshot by more than one.
At this point in the year, my glass is completely full.
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
Robert Hunter
by Buck Melanoma on Jul 16, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let’s say we sweep our division, at worst 5-1. We’re likely to split the AFC North, and NFC East. Then we still have Tenesee and Miami, likely another split, which puts us at 10-6 or 11-5. I’ll agree with the win at home against Baltimore so 12-4.
I just look at the last two seasons, starting so slow under Norv, I think we’ll know early about this years team.
by SJO on Jul 16, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate your take
If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!
Robert Hunter
by Buck Melanoma on Jul 16, 2009 2:54 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
WHOA
that chiefs fan is living a lie..he secretly wants to be a Charger fan..lol… the BOLTS should be at 12-4 if not 11-5 we just can’t overestimate ourselves and underestimate others…any given sunday…right,so i think we will be in the playoffs but i have to be real and take it one game at a time,fo sho!!!!
NEVER MISS A GAME,WHETHER BY BEING THERE OR WATCHING AT HOME,FO SHO!!!
by Gorditoe1 on Jul 17, 2009 3:00 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
oh and another thing....
Coach Rivera will have plenty of schemes for ya buddy…cassel won’t know what hit him…we’ll be seein brody croyle soon,on 11/29..trust me…lol
NEVER MISS A GAME,WHETHER BY BEING THERE OR WATCHING AT HOME,FO SHO!!!
by Gorditoe1 on Jul 17, 2009 3:04 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
FANTASY????
well i guess fantasy points matter when you live in a fantasy world…lol…his fantasy points helped them get to the playoffs and to a championship right? no..unfortunately they left you guys picking 3rd overall in the draft and with a serious case of the fantasies…dude that crap doesn’t apply to the real world win real games be mr. clutch when it matters not a hero on a web based game..if thats the only stat that matters to you then i guess your seasons gon be about your league and not bout the chiefs huh
NEVER MISS A GAME,WHETHER BY BEING THERE OR WATCHING AT HOME,FO SHO!!!
by Gorditoe1 on Jul 18, 2009 3:44 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs


























