More Stadium Interview Summaries
Most of us in San Diego who follow the Chargers heard about the stadium proposal that came out last week and was immediately shot down by the Chargers and the City. It had been talked about for a while and was the subject of multiple articles in the UT. The Chargers and city rejected it primarily because of density concerns and the traffic and infrastructure issues that come with that.
After the flurry of news articles, a lot of the people involved did radio interviews on the various sports radio channels here in SD. What follows is a summary of those interviews.
If this clears anything up for you, then you are a better man than me.
Update: Seems like the developer has mothballed the plans for now.
XTRA Sports 1360, Josh and Brian interview Jim Steeg Chargers' COO, June 1 (14 minutes)
- A bunch of interesting 50th Anniversary year stuff up through the 9 minute mark when the Stadium talk starts.
- Q: Do the players complain about the stadium? JS: not so much, the home locker room is not bad, the visitor locker room is really bad.
- Issue is mainly the cash flow. With the Dallas and NY stadiums coming on line, the salary cap is going up $10M and the Bolts revenue won't be going up at all.
XX Sports 1090, Scott and BR interview Mark Fabiani, June 2 (15 minutes)
- Mark Fabiani is the Chargers' lead guy on the stadium issue
- Talking about the proposed new stadium in Mission Valley that was shot down last week.
- Rejected because the density of the project is too great. It was similar to the proposal the Chargers put out in 2003, but this had an addition 4M square feet of office space, equivalent to almost 2 Empire State buildings.
- It is not going to happen politically and the current infrastructure could not support it. It is pie in the sky and the Chargers want to focus on projects that could not actually happen.
- The buildings would be too tall and out of scale to the rest of mission valley
- The Mayor doesn't support it and Councilwoman Frye doesn't support it. It's hard to see how something like this could move forward or get built.
- Q: Is one of the reasons this is being rejected by the Chargers because someone other than the Chargers would be doing the developing, and you would lose out on that cash? MF: If someone else came up with a good idea in Mission Valley the Chargers would be down with it. We want a new Stadium and can take or leave being part of the ancillary development effort.
- We abandoned the Qualcomm site (for a new stadium) in 2006 because of escalating costs and a reasonable extra development would not put a big enough chunk in the cost of the Stadium. The cost of the stadium is now $1 Billion.
- The solution is on multiple sites. Build a stadium on a new site while playing on the old site, and doing development elsewhere
- Q: status of the stadium in the City of Industry (LA)? MF: from I read and hear, they are in court working through the environmental impact report. That will take them through the end of the year at which time they will start looking for a new NFL team.
XX Sports 1090, Scott and BR interview Perry Dealy, June 2 (13 minutes)
- Perry Dealy is the guy who is responsible for the stadium proposal that was rejected last week.
- One of the motivations is to keep the Chargers in town. Plus the property is a phenomenal redevelopment opportunity which could bring hundreds of millions of dollars into the city's coffers over the years.
- The Chargers don't like it because it is big and they don't want to associate with something this big until it is more viable.
- Dealyhas a lot of smart people working withhim and they are at the beginning of the process. Meeting with the community groups and other advocates. Would require a redevelopment area designation.
- Q: Pie in the Sky? PD: any big vision requires some reaching. The redevelopment designation is doable because of the ground water contamination. The project is doable.
- Q: Problems with the city politicians? PD: we have presented to the mayor. They weren't real receptive. We are early in the process.
- We have lots of guys who are community leaders and many of which were involved with the new Padres stadium. Lot's of guys who are involved in big real estate deals across the western United States.
- 3.76 million square feet of office space. Is it lease-able? It's a 20 year build out. Dealyhas clients who are currently out there looking for 1M square feet of office space right now, so the numbers aren't crazy. 5900 residential units? Real Estate will recover, especially with the central location and the trolley near by.
- Working through some of the issues. Community issues, economic details, and the redevelopment designation.
- Q: Why not work more with the Chargers. JD: we did. They encouraged us to move forward on our own. When the plan was done, the Chargers weren't willing to get behind it. Once we get some of the issues and details worked out we will go back to the Chargers. Should know one way or the other by the end of the year.
Dealy indicates that he thinks the Chargers and the City would be open to getting behind the project once they get some of the details and issues worked out.
XX Sports 1090, Scott and BR interview Ron Roberts, June 3 (13 minutes)
- Who is Ron Roberts you ask??? I didn't know either until I heard the interview. He is one of the San Diego county supervisors. He has also ran for mayor in the past.
- Downtown would be a great place for the stadium. 10th avenue terminal would be great property, but there seem to be other forces at work.
- No matter where you put the stadium or what proposals are out there, they deserve to be considered. Any redevelopment of the Qualcomm site would change those 166 acres from a revenue drain to a revenue flow, stadium or not. Lots of problems to solve, but this should have been on the city's front burner a decade ago.
- The Qualcomm location has tremendous potential for revenue for the city.
- Should have been a part of the Grantville Redevelopment project (note: I don't know any specifics about that) which would have kept the taxes local and out of Sacramento's hands. No matter where you end up building the stadium (Qualcomm or not), redeveloping the qualcomm site as a redevelopment area would provide some tax flow for the city which could potentially be used for any infrastructure improvements related to a new stadium.
Ron knows the Qualcomm site needs to be redeveloped and should be set up as a redevelopment zone (which keeps the taxes local and gives you some additional eminent domain clout).
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Thank you for collecting these interviews Stephen
I will listen to them in my off-time. It seems that Ron Roberts is on point in his interview. The City has a white elephant on their hands. They built this trolley expansion past the stadium and spent a bunch of money to do it. The daily ridership on that line probably doesn’t even cover the operating expenses, let alone ROI on the development costs. Obviously they must have anticipated that density in the surrounding area would increase to pay this investment off.
If the Chargers do move to a different location (near or far) the City is the big looser. I think it would be much easier for the City to justify redevelopment of the Jack Murphy /Qualcomm site while the team is there, rather than wait for the tumble weeds to pile up. They should have done the deal that Spanos pitched.
Agreed
However, I think a LOT of work needs to be done at the Qualcomm site to make it fit the mold of today’s revenue-generating stadium. My latest, and least probably, idea:
-The Chargers move to Los Angeles for two years. They remain the San Diego Chargers, but play their home games at the Rose Bowl. This is similar to when the Bears played at the University of Illinois’ stadium for a season.
-During those two years, Qualcomm Stadium is leveled and a new stadium and community is built into it’s place. Restaurants and bars are a part of this new project. Seau’s moves from the mall to this location.
This would do something for everyone. It would allow the Chargers to get a new stadium at the most logical spot and prevent any new construction on behalf of the city to accommodate transportation. It would grow the Chargers L.A. fanbase, so that when they moved back to San Diego they’d be bringing more fans (meaning even more revenue). For the city of Los Angeles, they’d be showing other suitors that times are different and they’re now able to support an NFL team. Hell, if they can fill up the Rose Bowl regularly then lots of NFL owners are going to dream about building a stadium similar to the Cowboys new 100,000 seater and moving there.
Also, the whole process would equal lots of TV time, especially considering the Chargers would be moving right into ESPN’s new backyard. And, USC would benefit by having an NFL team playing on their field each weekend and having NFL players hanging around the stadium.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Jun 4, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
It seems the stadium site has an ingress/egress problem
The freeways on three sides and big hill on the fourth sort of lock it in. They can’t add a ton more cars around the 15 – 8 interchange. I tested it all out on SimiCity – it doesn’t work (joke).
I think the Chargers proposal dealt with that issue, perhaps even their ideas were over the top. Since then they built a lot of housing at those quarry sites. I wonder if the Charger’s plan could even still work.
As far as a temporary move to LA goes… umm yeah… No. If the Chargers get that far out of town I doubt they are coming back. Somehow, someway LA finds a way to snag ‘em. Maybe I’m wrong, but the season ticket holder base would explode. A temporary move to LA would be an extremely unprofitable move for the Chargers.
by Trendsearcher on Jun 4, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions
If they moved to LA temporarily while a new stadium is being built
there’s no way they’re not coming back. They couldn’t just commission a new billion dollar stadium and say they changed their minds afterwards. That’s what contracts and binding agreements are for.
I’m actually intrigued by the idea, and I’m a season ticket holder.
Not that I'm a big-time SimCity planner
but I was thinking they should build the stadium up against one of the corners of the lot (like by the big hill) and have bars and restaurants built into the stadium and around it. It’s difficult to explain, but the Phillies do a great job of this. They have a bar that can be accessed from inside or outside the stadium and it turns into a big-time hotspot before games, after games, during games and even for away games.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
IIRC correctly the orginal Chargers proposal
included a lot of money (spent by the Chargers) to re-do a lot of the streets, off ramps and on ramps in the area. I don’t know what the endgame of the road construction proposal was, but I would assume it was intended to improve traffic flow and probably to help the newly adjacent businesses have traffic flow that could be separated from the new stadium’s gameday traffic.
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
Do you mean
the Coliseum…not the Rose Bowl? UCLA plays at the Rose Bowl, not USC. I think the LA Coliseum would be a better location anyway. The Rose Bowl has horrible parking, and the seating is not up to snuff as far as luxury boxes and actual seats (most seats are just benches, not individual seats). The Coliseum would be a little better from a seating and parking perspective, plus it’s that much closer to downtown LA, but they also have an issue with luxury boxes.
I like your idea though. If they could get this deal worked out early enough and do some luxury box modifications to the Coliseum before the Chargers arrived, that would be ideal.
And in the end, the outcome would be what everyone wants: Chargers are still in SD, LA showcases itself for a new NFL franchise, and every one makes money!
Do or do not. There is no try.
Yes, I meant the Coliseum
I’ve never been to either so I always get them mixed up.
My idea is getting a better response than I expected.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
Agreed..
with obviousman about the bars and restraunts being local to the stadium. You want to be a big time town you need big time facilities. After visiting many other stadiums for all sports, the only thing the Q has but times do change, is the tailgating scene in the parking lot. But empty space is lost dollars for a possible new project. It is time to move into the future or else risk loosing the chargers.

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