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AFC West Offseason Questions: Kansas City Chiefs

Kansas City Chiefs coach Todd Haley watches over a morning workout during rookie camp at the team's football practice facility in Kansas City, Mo., Saturday, May 9, 2009. (AP Photo/Orlin Wagner)

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6 months ago: Kansas City Chiefs coach Todd Haley watches over a morning workout during rookie camp at the team's football practice facility in Kansas City, Mo., Saturday, May 9, 2009. (AP Photo/Orlin Wagner)

As the offseason drags along the most obvious thing about it to Chargers fans is that we're the most uninteresting team in the AFC West.  Right?  That's not a bad thing.  It's a great thing in fact.  While our competition in the division was out searching for new coaches, new playmakers and building new schemes we focused more on getting healthy, getting focused and perfecting what we already had.

With that in mind, the Chargers lack of activity this preseason has led me to pay more attention to our AFC West counterparts.  If the media was to be believed, the moves they've made will lead the Chargers to six easy victories in 2009 but perhaps some legitimate competition down the line.  To find out if what the fans think I went to Chris and primetime 07 from Arrowhead Pride, the very popular SB Nation blog for Kansas City Chiefs fans, and asked them to give us some insight.  Here's what I got.

 

What's the general feelings on the new guys (Haley, Pioli, Pendergast, Cassel)?

Scott Pioli

January 13th will be a day Kansas City Chiefs fans remember for a long time.  On this day team owner Clark Hunt announced Scott Pioli as the new general manager.  Along with Pioli came an extensive history of success with one of the greatest football minds on the planet - Bill Belichick.  Pioli had been the hottest name on the general manager market for several years, even turning down multiple interview requests in years past.  The reaction to Pioli's hiring has been resounding YES!

Though with the positive vibes comes a hint of skepticism.  This is based in the secrecy Pioli brought with him.  As you know, the New England Patriots' reign has been doused in secrecy.  Similarly, word rarely gets out of One Arrowhead Drive these days, which has caused some folks to question Pioli's moves.  This is a natural reaction to the unknown.  But the best indicator of future performance is past performance and Pioli has quite the resume so the secrecy is something that comes with the territory.

Todd Haley

Late at night on February 5th, word broke that the Chiefs had hired former Arizona Cardinals offensive coordinator Todd Haley as the new head coach.  The rumors had been swirling that Pioli and the Chiefs were waiting for the Cardinals' playoff run to be given permission to interview Haley.  Pioli and Haley previously worked together with the New York Jets and had forged a personal relationship.  Both of them also have a relationship with Bill Parcells, which we've found is a common theme among the Chiefs' recent coaching and personnel hires. 

The reaction to Haley has been positive, but not quite as emphatic as the commencement of the Pioli regime.  Haley has no experience as a head coach.  In fact, his background is on the personnel side along with several stints as a wide receiver coach.  One sect of Chiefs' fans look at his work with the Cardinals' 2008 offense as a sign of things to come.  Another sect of fans would rather focus on his lack of managerial experience as a sign of things to come.

Regardless of your view, we won't know Haley's full impact on the Chiefs until the 2009 season is under way.


Clancy Pendergast

Former Cardinals' defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast appears to be a "who you know, not what you know" type hiring by Todd Haley.  His defenses in Arizona vastly underperformed with the exception of their late season playoff run.  The Cardinals' employed a hybrid 4-3/3-4 defense that the Chiefs will likely run in 2009.  Because of his track record as a mediocre (at best) coordinator, this is the move that has been questioned the most.

The Chiefs were leaked to former Patriots defensive coordinator and Browns head coach Romeo Crennel, but the word is he's going to take the season off and let himself heal following recent hip surgery. 

I think most Chiefs fans are willing to ride the Pendergast train in 2009 until he gives us a reason not to believe in him.  The 2008 Chiefs defense was historically bad with an NFL futility record of 10 (10!) sacks.  The pass rush MUST be improved in 2009 or I'm afraid a lot of fans might explode.


Matt Cassel

If you're from Kansas City, then you know the Chiefs troubles with quarterbacks.  Former GM Carl Peterson tried again and again to draft the quarterback of the future failling every at every turn.  The Chiefs had success with Joe Montana (1993-1994) and Trent Green (2001-2005) but both those players were on the wrong side of thirty entering their prime with the team.  Cassel is 27 years old coming off an outstanding season in New England.

The biggest question in the minds of Kansas Citians is whether this was Bill Belichick performing his magic or is Cassel that good?  We won't know until September but it's a good sign that Scott Pioli was the Patriots VP of Player Personnel when Cassel was drafted, Belichick trusted him to throw him into a starting role following Tom Brady's injury, and new Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels was willing to rupture his relationship with Jay Cutler to make a run at him.



I've heard that Cassel is yet to sign an extension with the Chiefs.  Is that true?  Do you think it means anything?

This means nothing.  It was reported by Mike Lombardi of the NFL Network and of the National Football Post that he and the Chiefs had agreed to a deal in principle that would pay him $36 million guaranteed over six seasons.  Multiple media outlets disputed this report including Adam Teicher of the Kansas City Star, Peter King of Sports Illustrated, Matt Cassel (via Tom Curran of NBC Sports) and our own GM Scott Pioli.

I spoke with Lombardi about the looming contract with the Chiefs and he said he fully expects the Chiefs to announce a long-term deal by June.

Even if the Chiefs didn't sign him to a long-term deal, we have the cap room (currently at about $31 million) to handle his $14.65 million salary.  My personal line of thinking on this is that the Chiefs shouldn't sign him prior to the 2009 season. I want him to play out this season so that we can make a more educated guesstimate on his future with the Chiefs.

Absent an extension to the current collective bargaining agreement, the requirement for restricted free agents will move from four to six years of service
(Editor's note: I had not idea that was happening. This certianly increases the Chargers chances of bringing back Merriman.).  Basically, this means that the Chiefs can sit on Cassel's contract this season and even place the highest tender on him next season without losing his rights.  To me, there's just no reason to rush an extension.



Tyler Thigpen looked great against the Chargers last year.  Is he relegated to backup duty only with Cassel being brought in?

The official line from the Chiefs' front office is that this is an open competition.  I believe that to an extent.  But looking at the broad picture, Cassel will be the starter.  We surrendered a second rounder for him plus he's due $14.65 million next season.  Barring injury, I would be shocked if Matt Cassel wasn't the Chiefs' starting quarterback in September of 2009.

That's not meant to knock Tyler Thigpen either.  When he entered the game, Chiefs fans had just about given up hope on the season.  I mean a 7th rounder who came from a school that has a football program that's just five years old?  We didn't think he had a chance.

But then in a rare move by Herm Edwards, we instituted a spread-like offense, which we've dubbed the ArrowSpread around AP, and Thigpen flourished.  He played very well considering the circumstances, but the best chance for the Chiefs success is to run a more pro-style offense which fits Cassel better.



Were you happy with the players KC drafted?  Which rookie are you most excited about?  Which rookie do you think will make the biggest impact in 2009?

Reactions to the Chiefs' draft were mixed.  It wasn't sexy by any means which rubbed a few folks the wrong way.  But we got back to basics.  The Chiefs are going to run the 3-4 defense this season so they spent their first two picks on defensive linemen.  Tyson Jackson should be penciled in as a starting defensive end and, depending on the future of Glenn Dorsey, Alex Magee should supplement the depth at defensive end. 

The popular theory before the draft was for the Chiefs to trade down in any way possible.  In fact, there were reports from the Kansas City Star that the Chiefs offered the Detroit Lions the third overall pick for their 20th and 33rd selections.  This trade would have blown the doors off the traditional draft trade value chart.  But the Lions rejected the trade (and for good reason Mr. $41.7 million guaranteed).

Scott Pioli has a history with drafting defensive linemen early.  DE Richard Seymour (6th overall), DE Ty Warren (13th overall) and NT Vince Wilfork (21st overall) made the pre-draft rumors of the Chiefs taking Jackson believable.  And those picks worked out pretty well for the Patriots so I'm going to defer to Pioli's history on this one.

As far as impact goes, none of the Chiefs' rookies will have a huge impact.  That's not to say they're not good players, but the nature of the Chiefs top two positions drafted doesn't necessitate a "big impact" to the untrained eye.  3-4 defensive ends aren't a sexy position but they should go a long way to solidifying one of the worst defensive lines (from a production standpoint) in NFL history.



What's the running back situation like?  Is there still talk of Larry Johnson being moved (or cut) before the season starts?

Regarding Larry Johnson, I speak for a lot of Chiefs fans when I take the Drew Rosenhaus approach: Next question.

 

Do you think there's any hope for Glenn Dorsey to turn it around?

Absolutely.  Dorsey gets a bad wrap because he isn't a traditional 3-4 player.  They say he's too small for the nose tackle yet not tall enough for the end.  But don't worry, the Chiefs will find a way to utilize Dorsey's talent.  Clancy Pendergast ran what's called a 4-3 under last season which would place Dorsey in a Darnell Dockett role.  You'll hear a lot of moaning about Dorsey's role in the Chiefs defense but I wouldn't put too much thought into it.

 

How does the loss of Tony Gonzalez affect the offense?

This is a difficult question to answer.  On the one hand, you're talking about replacing the greatest tight end ever (by far) with a second year tight end from Tennessee named Brad Cottam.  He was primarily a blocking tight end in college.  On the other hand, you look at Todd Haley's offense last season and the top receiving tight end only had nine grabs. 

So, the question becomes do we need a tight end?  I don't think it's a necessity but you can always use the help of a tight end that grabs 100 balls for 1,000 yards every season.  Gonzalez will ultimately be impossible to replace.  But to keep my sanity in this situation and find some good in it, I think of the idea of creative destruction.  Gonzalez has been such an integral part of the Chiefs offense for the last decade, his loss will force the team to find another avenue to success  (Creative destruction?  Lame excuse, but we gotta find some way to justify losing the face of the franchise).



From what we've heard from the Broncos owner, he's not expecting their team to compete in the upcoming season because of the switch in coaches as well as a switch in offensive and defensive schemes.  His goal is to turn around the team long-term.  Is this what the Chiefs are saying as well?  Are the Chargers the only AFC West team that is expecting to be good? 

Judging by the Chiefs offseason moves of acquiring a healthy dose of veterans, the Chiefs expect to compete in 2009.  I'm not saying we'll see a Dolphins-esque turn around but the Chiefs will be competitive.  Considering the two games between the Chiefs and Chargers last season, I don't think I have to tell San Diego fans that we'll be competitive within the division.



Do you have any predictions for the Chiefs 2009 season?

Predictions?  Come on obviousman, you're setting me up for failure!  Pre-training camp prediction for me would be 7 wins.



Is there anything you'd like to say to Chargers fans?

There are Chargers fans?  Hmph.  Guess you learn something new every day :)

 

So there you have it.  Some great answers, great info, decent trashtalking and terrific insight from the guys at Arrowhead Pride.  Thank you again to both Chris and primetime 07 for taking the time to answer my questions.  Feel free to throw some trash-talking their way in the comments section.

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He's got a point.

Chiefs have had our number as of late. 2-4 against us the last three years (that’s good compare to the Broncos and Raiders), and both games in 2008 could very easily have gone the other way.

by maestro876 on May 9, 2009 11:12 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Todd Haley

I for one do not think Haley has what it takes to be a successful NFL coach. I have a really long explanation as to why, but I could see Haley floundering for a few years before getting fired (similar to Herm). That’s one reason why I believe the Chiefs will be even less successful in 2009 than they were in 2008.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John (obviousman) on May 10, 2009 5:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

You might be right about Haley

but the chiefs were a MUCH better team last year than their record indicated. They were a few unlucky games (see Charger games) and a few poor coaches decisions from being much closer to .500. This is especially true at the end of the season. I was a little worried about a resurgent Chiefs team this year causing trouble in the West for us, but I think the change in GM and coach will have them treading water for another year.

Plus, due to the lack of success of Belicheck disciples (Mangini, Crennel, Weiss) I am hopefull that only Belicheck has the magic formula he used in NE and doesn’t let anyone else use it. I am hopefully that McDaniel and Pioli fall on their faces (I would put money on McDaniel falling, I’m not so sure about Pioli)

by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 10, 2009 6:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Former Patriots

That run of bad luck extends to NE coaches, not front office men. The other example of a front office man switching teams is Thomas Dimitroff, who did an outstanding job in Atlanta last season.

I feel pretty good about Pioli.

by Joel Thorman on May 11, 2009 7:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

true

Dimitroff did have a good year last year, we’ll see if it holds.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 11, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Regarding the new CBA rules and Merriman

If a new CBA deal isn’t struck, then in 2010 the rule for RFAs will move from four to six years. Basically, if the Chargers wanted they could sit on Merriman’s rights and tender him the highest level possible (1st and a 3rd) that would pay him like $1.545 million.

Yes, that’s a possibility BUT if the Chargers did that they can pretty much expect Merriman to never sign a contract with the team again (considering he can make 10X that annually on the open market.

by Joel Thorman on May 11, 2009 7:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

here's to the return

of the AFC West being one of the toughest division in football. Remember when teams hated having the AFC West on their schedule?

by bringbacktheglory on May 11, 2009 8:48 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Not Buying It

Cassel is mediocrity personified; he was a product of the system and stellar surrounding talent. Bowe is their best target, and he has trouble catching the ball. It made zero sense to dump Gonzalez; probably the premier receiving tight end in the NFL. They are going to a spread offense with weak targets. Their coach managed to tick off one of the few Pro Bowl caliber guys, Brian Waters at guard, and he has now skipped the mini-camp (Waters not the Coach, though they might be better off it were reversed). The Chiefs were beyond woeful in the pass rush, my daughters yoga class is more intimidating; nothing they did adequately addressed that.

The AFC West remains pitiful and the Chargers win it going away if they stay moderately healthy.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on May 11, 2009 5:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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Cassel is mediocrity personified; he was a product of the system and stellar surrounding talent.

Montana had stellar talent in SF and came to KC and did very well. Since Jay Cutler had stellar talent around him, are you saying that he’s going to be a product of the system as well? Not sure where you’re going with this one.

Bowe is their best target, and he has trouble catching the ball.

Bowe has over 2,000 yards in his first two seasons. Go back in history and see how many players have done that. Comparatively, he’s much, much better than Vincent Jackson. The numbers in their first two years aren’t even close. Jackson’s best season, his fourth, is equal to Bowe’s second season. With this logic, you’re saying the Chargers don’t have any weapons either.
They are going to a spread offense with weak targets.

We’re going to a spread? Are you reporting this or did you read it somewhere? News to me. We ran a variation of a spread last season and if I recall it was able to keep up with the Chargers in both contests. This is a weak argument.
It made zero sense to dump Gonzalez; probably the premier receiving tight end in the NFL.

Please explain “zero sense”. I don’t understand that argument. A second round pick for Gonzalez who would only play for the Chiefs for one more season? A second round pick doesn’t outweigh one season to you?? I guess me and likely the majority of personnel execs in the league who called this a good deal for the Chiefs would disagree.
Their coach managed to tick off one of the few Pro Bowl caliber guys, Brian Waters at guard, and he has now skipped the mini-camp.

Yeah, he skipped mini-camp. Rookie mini-camp. Where only the rookies were invited. There hasn’t been a word about this situation from any party since February 27th. Brian Waters will play for the Chiefs this season.
nothing they did adequately addressed that.

A 3-4 defense doesn’t address part that? Hmm.
The AFC West remains pitiful and the Chargers win it going away if they stay moderately healthy.

I agree with this but didn’t the Chargers only win 8 games last season?

LaDainian Tomlinson is going downhill. His carries and yards per carry have decreased for three consecutive seasons. He will be 30 when the season starts and was banged up last year. Not sure why you think things like injury get better with age (because all other history would indicate otherwise).

The Chargers are clearly the team to beat in the AFC but you would be silly to think they’ll run unchallenged for much longer.

by Joel Thorman on May 11, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In addition to that

The Chargers were 25th in the NFL last season giving up 5.84 yards to Igor’s side. What did they do to fix that?

The Chargers were also 29th and 30th in the league in number of rush attempts over the right guard and right tackle. They obviously didn’t like going that way. But they overloaded on rushing to the left and ranked 30th in the NFL with 3.84 yards per carry in rushing to the left side. Why is that? What did they do to address that?

The Chargers have plenty of problems, and only won 8 games in the NFL’s worst division.

by Joel Thorman on May 11, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Chargers were 25th in the NFL last season giving up 5.84 yards to Igor’s side. What did they do to fix that?

They got rid of Igor, they are going to start Cesaire, Bingham or perhaps Martin. They are going to get Merriman back, and Cooper isn’t going to be out the first four games, that was when teams really chewed us good. The run defense was as much the LB’s falling down as anything, particularly Wilhelm and Derek Smith; Jamal got off to a slow start too. We also will have Phillips, English, Merriman and Cooper in a lot of packages, I’m pretty high on the LBs right now, I think all that will go a ways to making the run defense better.

The Chargers were also 29th and 30th in the league in number of rush attempts over the right guard and right tackle. They obviously didn’t like going that way. But they overloaded on rushing to the left and ranked 30th in the NFL with 3.84 yards per carry in rushing to the left side. Why is that? What did they do to address that?

They got rid of Goff and picked up Vazquez in the third round. They also have former pro-bowler Kynan Forney who will battle Vazquez for that RG spot. They also picked up Gattrell Johnson for short yardage situations. And of course the hope is that LT stays healthier this year. If we can get up to an average running game, I think the passing attack should carry them.

You forgot to ask how the Chargers were going to fix their coverage of tight ends. :-)

The Chargers have plenty of problems, and only won 8 games in the NFL’s worst division.

No doubt, but we had our share of bad bounces, Merriman is a difference maker, we have greater depth rushing from the edge, we picked up a good coverage LB. I’m a fan, maybe it’s just rose colored glasses but I can’t wait for the season to start.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on May 11, 2009 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Goff > Vasquez

At least in ’09. And Kynan Forney? The guy who has missed 27 games in the last three seasons?

Off topic, but man how has Jamal Williams stayed healthy all these years? He’s missed 6 games in 6 years despite being 350 lbs and a ten year vet. That’s crazy.

by Joel Thorman on May 12, 2009 4:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forney

Sat on our bench, he wasn’t injured but the Chargers value continuity in the line. Too much I think; still you were right to note that the Bolts didn’t like running right. The trouble is that in their estimation the problem was Goff, we hung on to him a year too long. Vasquez may battle for the position, but will likely spend at least one year riding the pine.

Jamal is just a force unto himself; his knees are shot and often he skips one practice during the week; but by the seasons end he is always dominating in the middle. Still one of these years he is going to pack it in; that will be a sad day for the Bolts; right now we don’t have a replacement anywhere near his level. Anyway good to talk to you guys, you and Chris do a great job. I was always stealing ideas from you when I was blogging.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on May 12, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Montana had stellar talent in SF and came to KC and did very well. Since Jay Cutler had stellar talent around him, are you saying that he’s going to be a product of the system as well? Not sure where you’re going with this one.

Football Outsiders DVOA puts him at 17; in a 32 team league that’s strictly middle of the road. When he came to SD, Cassel was miserable and our defense did not light a lot of teams up last year. Not adjusting for circumstances QB rating has him at tenth with Randy Moss, Wes Welker, et al. Mediocre isn’t bad, I just don’t see him as the second coming of Joe Montana. Oh and Brandon Marshall can’t catch that well either; Royal might become great, Stokely is good, they are talented, not stellar. I was never big on Cutler either, he seemed to fold under pressure and through too many picks.

Jackson’s best season, his fourth, is equal to Bowe’s second season. With this logic, you’re saying the Chargers don’t have any weapons either.

Fair enough, maybe he makes a quantum leap next year, last year he ranked 63rd in the league by DVOA, which means he wracked up a lot of mostly meaningless yards. And that was with Gonzalez; and I didn’t say he wasn’t a weapon. In contrast Jackson was fifth in DVOA last year, but I’ll tell you what he never got going until Chambers came in to take some focus off him. Who is going to do that for Bowe now?

We’re going to a spread? Are you reporting this or did you read it somewhere?

Come on man, this is the internet; it’s pure unadulterated opinion. You think Cassel is going to line up under center? Good luck with that. Cassel went 78% from shotgun, Haley did almost 69% Shotgun so you have a spread QB and a spread OC, call me crazy but I’m thinking you might just go there.

Please explain "zero sense". I don’t understand that argument. A second round pick for Gonzalez who would only play for the Chiefs for one more season? A second round pick doesn’t outweigh one season to you??

Where does one year come from? Didn’t he have three on his contract? And you guys need picks this year; your receiving corps is weak. Who did you pick up that fills the void Gonzalez left? This is a huge step backwards, it’s Jared Allen all over again. Trading away birds in the hand for rookies in the draft. I just can’t parse the Chiefs or the Broncos this off season. So maybe zero sense is too strong; I’d settle for stupid.

I guess me and likely the majority of personnel execs in the league who called this a good deal for the Chiefs would disagree.

Pfft, likely? Appeal to anonymous authority, a classic fallacious argument. Even if you put some names out there it would only rise to the fallacy of appeal to authority.

On the pass rush:

A 3-4 defense doesn’t address part that? Hmm.

Tell me who is coming off the edge? Who did you pick up in the draft or free agency that is going to bring the heat?

The Chargers are clearly the team to beat in the AFC but you would be silly to think they’ll run unchallenged for much longer.

I’m not even clear what this means, the Chargers got challenged plenty last year; they only got in because the Broncos folded and they got some lucky bounces as you well know. I’m just saying that neither the Chiefs nor the Broncos moved in the right direction; next season barring injury I think the Bolts are in good shape. It’s just my opinion, but I don’t buy this theory of a phoenix like rise from the ashes for the AFC West.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on May 11, 2009 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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Football Outsiders DVOA puts him at 17; in a 32 team league that’s strictly middle of the road.

I have no idea what that (DVOA) means. But I do know that guys who throw for 3,600+ yards, complete 63%+ of their passes and have a 2:1 TD:INT ratio are pretty good. And if you think those are below average numbers then we’ll just have to agree to disagree.

Shotgun doesn’t equal spread.

Gonzalez said he wouldn’t play past ’09 in Kansas City. It would have been silly not to make that trade. And Bowe/Bobby Engram > Vincent Jackson/Chris Chambers.

Tell me who is coming off the edge? Who did you pick up in the draft or free agency that is going to bring the heat?

Mike Vrabel is a pretty good OLB we picked up.

by Joel Thorman on May 12, 2009 5:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mike Vrabel is a pretty good OLB we picked up.

Vrabel’s good, but pretty long in the tooth; still a nice pickup with a lot of leadership for a team with so much youth.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on May 12, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

I concede the logical fallacy argument. I knew what I was doing when I put that. Nice catch :)

As far as the phoenix like rise, there were 6 teams that had 4 or less wins in 2008. 2 of those teams did make a “phoenix like rise” using the same process we did (new GM, coach, QB) so it’s certainly not impossible.

Hey…DaBolts, I thought you used to be the blogger here.

by Joel Thorman on May 12, 2009 5:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s certainly not impossible.

No, it’s not, can’t say I picked Miami to finish in the playoffs at the start of last season.

Hey…DaBolts, I thought you used to be the blogger here.

Right, I just couldn’t put enough time in with work picking up; fortunately O’ man has more than picked up the slack.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on May 12, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A tip of the hat to you, good sir

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John (obviousman) on May 12, 2009 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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