Chargers' Defensive Backfield Position Battles and Depth Analysis
Draft - Done, Free Agency - Mostly Done. AJ says they guys we have now are the guys we are going to start the season with. Ronnie Lott isn't going to come a save us.
It is pretty safe to say that our defensive backs had the biggest drop off statistically of any other position group. We went from giving up 213 yards per game (ranked 14th) in the air and picking off 30 passes (1st) in 2007 to giving up 247 yards per game (ranked 31st) in the air and picking off 15 passes (11th) in 2008. The only difference in personnel was swapping out Drayton Florence for Antoine Cason as our nickel back. Of course, that ignores the loss of Merriman and the disappearance of our pass rush. And therein lies the question. Did our defensive backfield go from being an above average crew to being one of the worst in the league because of a lack of pass rush? Or did they get figured out? With Merriman coming back and English in the fold, will the 2009 DBs look like the 2007 version or the 2008 version?
There is only one way I know of to try and figure this out in May... Let's have us a look at the depth chart. Lay out last year's guys plus the new guys, and let's see what kind of position battles we have brewing and what depth problems we might have.
| Name | Position(s) | Experience | Max Games Started in a Season | Max Games Played in a Season | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Quentin Jammer | CB | 8th | 16 | 16 | Wiley veteran. border line pro bowler. solid. potentially approaching the downside of career, but should be fine for 2009 |
| Antonio Cromartie | CB | 4th | 15 | 16 | Pro Bowl in 2007, BIG dropoff in 2008 possibly due to hip injury |
| Eric Weddle | FS/SS | 3rd | 16 | 16 | 2008 was his first year as a starter. Did not have a real good year. He plays mainly FS, but might be better suited as a SS. |
| Clinton Hart | SS | 7th | 16 | 16 | Great guy, great story, BIG dropoff in 2008. Played well in 2007. |
| Antoine Cason | CB | 2nd | 3 | 16 | 1st round pick in 2008 draft. Played very solid nickel corner last year. Will be a starter someday |
| Cletis Gordon | CB | 4th | 1 | 14 | Gets some time against passing teams, primarily a special teams guy. |
| Steve Gregory | SS | 4th | 3 | 16 | Started some games in 2008 in place of Hart. Gets some PT, but probably a special teams guy |
| Paul Oliver | FS/SS | 3rd | 0 | 13 | |
| Brandon Hughes | CB | R | 2009 Draft Round 5 | ||
| Kevin Ellison | SS | R | 2009 Draft Round 6 | ||
| C.J Spillman | FS | R | UDFA 2009 | ||
| Wopamo Asaisai | CB | R | UDFA 2009 | ||
| Ramarcus Brown | CB | R | UDFA 2009 |
Position Starters / Battles
CB - Quentin Jammer - No question here.
CB - Antonio Cromartie - Barring a really poor training camp and preseason, Cromartie will be starting. I'm tempted to say Antoine Cason could push him this year, but I'm not quite ready to go there. Cro has so much potential (see his 2007 season) and I think his 2009 will be closer to his 2007 than his 2008.
FS - Eric Weddle - He is the chosen one and he will be starting this year, like it or not. The only other option is Paul Oliver, and I don't know how comfortable I am with that.
SS - Clinton Hart - I think we are going to see some action here. He had lost his starting job at times last year to Steve Gregory. Part of Hart's problem was a hand and shoulder injury, part of it was being exposed because of a lack of pass rush. Clinton Hart is one of my favorite players and I really hope he reverts to his 2007 form (85 tackles and 5 ints). Gregory seemed slow last year and not a big upgrade over Hart (if at all). Another option here is the rookie Kevin Ellison. Ellison is a question mark, and not just because he is a rookie. Because of his size (6-0, 224) and his 4.8 40 time, some people think he might be more of a LB than a DB. His 40 time was affected by a knee injury (he has had several and that is another issue) and he plays faster than he times, but I'm not sure that is enough in the NFL. If I had to guess, I think Hart will start, but I really have no idea.
Nickel CB - Antione Cason - Cason will eventually be a starter for the Chargers at CB. Either because Cromartie is too expensive or never regains his 2007 form, or because Jammer starts to get old. If we didn't have two pro bowl caliber CBs ahead of him, he would be starting this year.
Game Day Actives - In the NFL today, a team has to carry more DBs than they used to. Every team has some sort of spread / 4 WR sets. Last year we had 8 DBs on the roster and one of them was typically inactive. That means three game day actives. Cason is a lock. Cletis Gordon and Gregory were typically active last year. We might see the same group as last year, or possibly one of the rookies could push Gordon or Gregory to the inactive list. I think that if Brandon Hughes or Kevin Ellison shows promise they will stick around over Gordon and/or Gregory. Having some experience in the backup roles is nice, but in today's NFL, you need to be developing your next group of players so the players on the edges of the roster will tend to be potential guys over experience guys.
Game Day Inactives -Either one or both of the drafted rookies will be inactive on game days. I suspect both Brandon Hughes and Kevin Ellison will make the team and might see some time depending on injuries. Either one could push Gordon or Gregory down the depth chart if they come along quickly. I suspect Paul Oliver might not make the team if he doesn't show some improvement during camp.
UDFAs who mght make some noise. CJ Spillman has the speed to play FS in the NFL. He will probably end up on the practice squad, but could make an impact down the road.
Depth Analysis
The rookies are a mystery to me. I don't know much about Hughes and I wonder if Ellison will even end up as a DB. "In the box" safeties are dinosaurs in today's NFL, and unless Ellison displays some speed and coverage ability, he could be up for a position change. If neither of the rookies contribute this year, we are left with the same crew as last year. For those of you who thought Hart and Weddle were bad last year, how much worse do Gregory and Oliver look? Cason provides a security blanket but he is on the field for probably 40% of the time between 3rd downs and passing packages, so he is as close to a starter as you can be without getting your named called out during intros.
If you remember from some of AJ's interviews, he likes to say that it takes three years to evaluate a draft. By year three, the players are who they are, if they aren't a starter in year three, they won't be a starter. He said there are some guys who are on notice. In the defensive backfield, that would include Oliver and Weddle (in their third year) and Gordon, Gregory, and Cromartie (in their 4th year). I think Oliver is in danger of not making the team if he doesn't make strides, he was pretty much inactive all last year he was only active on weeks where someone in front of him was injured (Hart or Gordon). I think Gordon and/or Gregory could be pushed off the roster if the rookies come on strong.
I think I am officially worried about depth at DB. If any of our starters get injured, we're going to have someone who is not very good playing (If a CB gets injured, Cason moves over and now we've got Gordon or Hughes playing nickel)
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Hmmmmm
VERY interesting. I think the secondary is going to be the most intriguing thing to watch at training camp. Here’s my response, in bullet-form:
-Who the hell is the backup FS? Anyone? ANYONE? What if Weddle gets hurt? I don’t know how this didn’t strike me sooner. A somewhat-undersized, hard-nosed player doesn’t have a legitimate backup? Yikes!
-Along that same line, are we sure Oliver is a SS? I was under the impression he was being groomed as a FS. Paul Oliver just became my obsession by the way. This kid was a REALLY good corner is college. He’s actually very similar to Malcolm Jenkins (who also plays faster than his combine time). Is Oliver maybe the backup FS and nobody knows it? That would certainly help him secure a roster spot if he was. I think the only reason we saw him playing SS last year was because that’s where we needed help.
-I get very happy when I think about Cromartie’s 2007 year. Remember that he didn’t even start until about halfway through the season. If he can return to that form, it’s going to be a fun year.
-I’m okay with Gordon/Hughes at the corner spot. I think Gordon would get it, because he’s a better overall player, but now that I’ve tracked down some tape of Hughes (from an OSU buddy) I’ve seen that he’s quite good at coverage. He’s a poor man’s Deion Sanders (hates to tackle). Gordon is good enough if we can get pressure on the QB consistently.
-If Week 1 was tomorrow, here are my 7 active DBs – Jammer, Cromartie, Cason, Gordon, Weddle, Hart, Oliver. Gregory is my inactive, Hughes and Ellison are on the practice squad (with them getting roster spots next year when Hart and Gordon leave).
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
In flux
Safety is a huge question mark.
I agree with your comments about Oliver.
We saw a bit of Oliver late last year—he doesn’t look like a SS to me. Then again, what does a SS do in the Bolts system? It’s more like we have 2 FS, with one occasionally blitzing or going up into the box (Weddle).
Count me as one who thinks that Hart, despite being a great guy and a great story, is done as a starter. He may have had good stats in 2007, but he was still a liability in coverage. And will continue to be, imo.
I think that Oliver/Weddle is the only sensible starting combo, after you take Hart out of the equation.
Now, maybe Hart has a great camp, and holds on to his starting spot. If we’re sporting Weddle and Hart as starters for another year, I hope the pass rush compensates. Cause neither of those guys is that good at defending the deep ball.
Been there, seen that.
Let’s see what Oliver can do—and let’s hope it’s something special, cause short of Spillman surprising, if Oliver doesn’t come through, we’re in for another year of blown coverages at S.
Hold your horses
I like Oliver and think he’s quite intriguing as a prospect, but I do not expect him to be starting. While it seems like our strong safety is no different from the free safety in our difference, you’re wrong.
I think Weddle’s skill set works better for the strong safety spot, but physically he’s not up to it. He just does not have the size or strength to defend tight ends. Plus the team would rather him be in space using his ball-hawking skills rather than in the middle of the play. This is why he stays at free safety. Now if it’s as I suspect and Oliver is the backup FS (cause who else could it be?) that pretty much takes him out of the running for starting SS spot (because of the position change and because it removes depth).
I think we start off the year with Weddle/Hart and end the year with Weddle/Ellison.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on May 22, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm letting em ride
Weddle gives up 5 lbs to Hart. Course, Hart can’t cover TEs, so I guess comparing Weddle to Hart in that regard doesn’t mean much.
If Ellison comes on, great. But banking on injury-prone 6th rounders is no way to go through life.
So it’s either Ellison or Hart, iyo? Yikes!!!!!
No thanks (unless Ellison proves Horton-like).
Measureables
Don’t believe them. According to what the Chargers say, Hart is only an inch taller. However, according this picture….

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on May 22, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Okay fine
That only looks like two inches now that I think about it. But I never said Hart was great at covering TEs either. Oliver is an inch shorter than Weddle.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on May 22, 2009 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Measureables aside...
I’m sticking with my Weddle/Oliver prediction on most snaps but bringing in Gregory, Ellison, or Hart in short yardage situations.
From everything I’ve read, this year’s D isn’t going to look much like last year’s D. So making predictions is pretty tough (ie we’ve got a good excuse if we’re wrong).
If the coaches LET us win – we will be alright
The answer is right there in the history of the past few years for the Chargers, and the equation is simple.
Pressure = good secondary performance
If Payton Manning or any other NFL QB has enough time, he is going to find the open receiver and beat your secondary. With enough time the dream team of DBs and cover LBs are going to look like fools. Conversely if the QB has to move the ball before he can get out of his drop back even a poor secondary can look great.
I have big hopes for Revera, in the 3-4 if you are not sending 5 on every play, and 6 on some – that QB just gets too much time. The challenge for the other team should be trying to figure out WHICH 5 or 6 are coming not whether they are coming. Part of the reason Cottrell failed was he dropped those LBs into coverage too much and was mostly sending 4.
Again give a QB enough time and he will beat you, force him to act quickly and the QB will beat himself.
by Trendsearcher on May 22, 2009 10:18 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
This is AJs thinking as well
that is why we took a rush linebacker in round one and didn’t address the DBs until the 5th and 6th round
by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 22, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I overstated how much Oliver was inactive last year
I was looking through the Chargers blog on the UT and he was probably inactive 4 or 5 games. I think it is more accurate to say he was only active when there was an injury in front of him (with Cletis or Hart). Near the end of the season he was legitimately active for a few games.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 22, 2009 12:33 PM PDT reply actions
yep
..and played a bunch too.
I’m not homering the guy. But he got enough gametime last year that we can say he’s going to see plenty of snaps this year. He didn’t play bad in the snaps he had (though he and Cro did get toasted by that quick throw by Manning in the playoff game). That said, it’s hard to evaluate safeties cause they’re hardly ever in the picture on TV.
Nice Article
I like Oliver; his pick against Denver showed great instincts. He’s lacking the speed, but as FS I think he has a lot of upside. Cletis Gordon got singed against Pittsburgh, but held up pretty well against NO I thought. He gave up the phantom pi there, but he is extremely fast; he does seem to give way to the more physical Steelers.
I’d add one more point on Jammer; while he is great he went down several times with cramps late in the game. His age is absolutely catching up with him. Cason was an awesome tackler but always plays it safe. Also late in the season Cason saw the field a lot more as Rivera started to practically live in the nickel. Next season I would love to see Cason gamble a little more to break up plays underneath. Contrariwise Cromartie both played scared by playing to far off, but managed to couple that with too many gambles giving up big gainers. He really needs to get his head together this season. No question he has all the skills; but he was a shambles out there last year. I don’t quite buy all the way in on the hip being the sole cause of his woes.
The pass rush should be much better which should lead to more hurried throws. I really like the depth at OLB now with Merriman, Philips, English and Jyles Tucker all able to rotate through; we should be able to keep the heat on. Damn, how long till kick off?
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by Brian (DaBolts) on May 22, 2009 4:27 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
About 114 days
Rec’d
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on May 22, 2009 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions
The teams' best safeties....
Are not even safeties on the team! I think Jammer would make a great SS and Osgood would make a great FS! We all know both can lay the wood, but both have the intangibles to play the position as well.
Osgood would have to tough transition from offense to defense and understanding the read process, but I think he’d play well w/ the proper coaching and dedication. Being a tall WR helps in getting into position and INT’s, while his ST’s experience helps his tackling ability.
Jammer is a solid CB, but never had the help behind him. If he were to transition to a SS, he’d know the importance of backing up his CB (from being a CB). He is probably our teams best tackler and he already has the speed and size to play the position. With him being a veteran player, it will help tremedously when reading and recognizing offensive plays.
While I like Weddle and his potential, I think athletically Osgood and Jammer (w/ experience) would be a big upgrade over Weddle / Hart. At least Osgood and Jammer would put some fear into the opposition.
Osgood doesn't work hard enough to transition to the other side of the ball
One of the PR guys for the Chargers said how great it was to see Osgood at some of the non-mandatory off season activities because he had NEVER been there before for them. How does a guy who claims he wants more PT at WR and who lives in San Diego not show up for off season activities?? Especially if you want to impress dubious coaches?? I don’t get it. And to think he might be able to switch to a position he has never played before just because he is big and makes special teams tackles is a real stretch. What’s his name from the Pats was able to do it because he was a student of the game and a hard worker. Osgood is neither. But he is a great special teamer and I hope he plays that position for the Chargers for a long time.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 26, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
You're right...
Though if there were any position a player would transition to it could be FS. Of all the standard positions on offense and defense (besides OL), FS is one of the easiest to pick up on. It is almost as the title indicates “free” safety. While this position does require many assignments, it is also a varying position relying on above average instinctual reading ability. So yes, being that KO has not played the position before…that will prove a marginal disadvantage. Though I did mention that he would make a good FS “with experience and proper coaching.”
KO has worked out hard in FL and does not remain in SD for OTA’s. I have long opposed KO’s personal workouts vice team oriented workouts, but all he will do is waste time running routes he will never use. I know he will never play FS w/ the Chargers, but if he started his transition two years ago…he may have been a solid player.
Sometimes it takes a change of scenery to change ones work ethic.
by Hellsbells51 on May 26, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there such a thing as a 6’5" safety? Osgood isn’t quick enough. His speed is a top-speed only.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on May 27, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions

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