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2008 Dan Fouts Award Ceremony

The Dan Fouts Award is handed out annually to the most underpaid San Diego Charger player from the previous season.  The nominees are chosen after comparing the performance of each player on the Chargers roster against his cap value for that season.  The winner is chosen by the fans.

To avoid any controversy, let me lay this out as clearly as possible.  We will only be dealing with non-rookie contracts, this is true for the players nominated as well as any comparisons.  Most players (with the exception of QBs) are playing way under their value until it comes time to sign their first non-rookie deal. 

Also, just like with the Ryan Leaf Award we will be using the 2008 Cap Value of each player.  This is not his base salary, it is essentially what he was paid for the 2008 season after bonuses have been included.  Each contract is different on how bonuses are laid out, so cap values change annually under the same contract.  But since we are looking at 2008 in a vacuum, we will take whatever the player was paid in that season and compare it to his performance to find the best valued Charger player in 2008.

 

Stephen Cooper, ILB - Stephen Cooper is a great story.  Coming out of the University of Maine, he was signed as an undrafted free-agent and worked his way up from the practice squad, to special teams, to backup linebacker and eventually taking over the starting Inside Linebacker spot with the departure of Randall Godfrey in 2006.  After serving a four-game suspension to start the 2008 season, Cooper helped solidfy the defense and became an on-the-field leader during the transition in defensive coordinators.  He ended the season with 98 tackles, 1.5 sacks, 6 passes defensed and 4 interceptions.

Cap Value: $1,833,012

Others at this position: Ray Lewis - $9,428,814, Karlos Dansby - $8,088,860, Julian Peterson - $7,301,800, Keith Bulluck - $7,862,388

 

Quentin Jammer, CB - Quentin Jammer has turned out to be everything Chargers fans wanted him to be when he was drafted in the first round of the 2002 draft.  Not only is he a big, physical player who specialized in jamming receivers at the line as well as playing the run with strong tackling, but he has turned into a shutdown corner who plays with intelligence.  For a few years there he had a problem with being too physical and picking up too many pass interference calls, but he learned from his mistakes and really couldn't be asked to be any better than what he is.  2008 was a difficult year for Jammer because it was a difficult year for our entire secondary.  He rarely got help from Clinton Hart and spent most of the year playing man-to-man while the QB had all day to throw.  With that being said, Jammer was still quite effective and still forced the ball to the other side of the field.  He also landed a couple of big hits that seemed to changed the momentum of the game.

Cap Value: $3,404,200

Others at this position: Champ Bailey - $12,690,050, Chris McAlister - $10,907,322, Patrick Surtain - $8,380,000, Donald Strickland - $7,767,500

 

Jamal Williams, DT - The nose tackle is probably the single most important position in the 3-4 defense.  Without it, you're going to have a hard time freeing up your linebackers and you'll get shredded by a good running team.  In the 4-3 or the 3-4, Jamal Williams has consistently been one of the Chargers best players.  Even now, with his knees constantly hurting due to carrying his huge frame and years of being chop-blocked by the Broncos offensive line, he may be slow to get going but how he effects the game is a large determining factor on how it will turn out.  In 2008, at the age of 32, Williams put up one of his best seasons to date.  He collected 1.5 sacks to go along with 56 tackles and 3 passes defensed (yes, really).

Cap Value: $2,903,840

Others at this position: Albert Haynesworth - $7,250,003, Kris Jenkins - $5,900,000, Casey Hampton - $5,378,043, Rock Bernard - $5,066,626

 

Igor Olshansky, DE - I know not everyone is going to agree with this, but the hear me out.  First, understand that Igor showed no tremendous progress throughout his five years with the Chargers but what just signed to a 4-year deal with the Cowboys worth $18 million dollars.  Let's not get too complicated in trying to figure out the deal and let's just assume that's split evenly over the 4 years.  That means Igor is now making $4.5 million dollars a year as a decent run-stopping 3-4 DE.  Right?  A look at Igor's stats back me up.  In his rookie year Igor started all 16 games and came away with 1 sack and 39 tackles.  In 2007, when the defense excelled all around him, Igor put up his best numbers: 3.5 sacks, 1 interception, 48 tackles.  In 2008, during a contract year, Igor managed only 2 sacks and 28 tackles.  So there probably isn't much difference between 2008 Igor and 2009 Igor, except that teams around the league are valuing 3-4 Defensive Ends higher than they once did.

Cap Value: $1,579,320

Others at this position: Luis Castillo - $6,989,380, Richard Seymour - $6,836,720, Shaun Ellis - $5,302,059, Trevor Pryce - $5,250,240

 

One caveat that I'd like to add on here before we get to the voting.  Luis Castillo was in the running for the Ryan Leaf Award in 2008, but I highly doubt he will be for 2009.  In 2008 his cap value was thrown off by his $6,150,000 signing bonus.  In reality, Castillo's contract appears to be structured with an extremely low base salary and lots of bonuses to be achieved.  So if Luis doesn't produce, Luis doesn't get paid (after the signing bonus anyways).  Castillo was also paid another $4 million or so in 2008 in other bonuses, most likely dealing with his health and ability to stay on the field.

 

Poll
Who should win the 2008 Dan Fouts Award?
Stephen Cooper
61 votes
Quentin Jammer
98 votes
Jamal Williams
130 votes

289 votes | Poll has closed

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I picked Jammer

It would have been Cooper if he was not suspended for the first 4 games.

by Steve (Grey Suit) on May 11, 2009 7:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't have included Jammer

just because while there are other CBs that are paid more, Jammer is one of the best paid players on the team.

by maestro876 on May 11, 2009 8:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

how do you not vote for Jamal?

I would only place a few guys ahead of him in the NFL. He played all last year and played very well. I guess the only knock would be that he isn’t a three down player.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 11, 2009 8:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Where is Rivers?

JW is my second choice – seems like players of his caliber come around once every decade.

But my first vote would have been Rivers – dude put the team on his back last season! Over looked for MVP, no pro bowl, tied the TD passing record and didn’t even make our Dan Foutes ballot? Given that the O-line was decimated and LT had a bad wheel, I think Rivers achievement was even more special.

by Trendsearcher on May 11, 2009 9:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn

yes he was. I was thrown off because his signing bonus was spread amongst years one, four and five. When I saw the signing bonuses come up for the past two years after missing for a couple I assumed he had signed a new two-year deal. Consider him removed as a nominee.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John (obviousman) on May 11, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would like to write in

Gates or Hardwick. I’m not sure how their contracts compare, but they seem like they may be a bit underpaid… Plus we get some offensive options, in the spirit of bipartisanship and what not.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 11, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tried to do Hardwick

I had a hard time comparing him to other centers mainly because I can’t name any past Hardwick and Mawae. All the Offensive Linemen were grouped together.

Gates had the 4th highest cap number amongst TEs, which seemed about right.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John (obviousman) on May 11, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

also

I’m interested to know where you get the contract info. I like rotoworld.com, but it only has current and future numbers and not much detail on incentives and the like.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 11, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've also wondered

I’ve found some salary info from various places, but the numbers seem to be off from what you get

If I agreed with you, we would both be wrong

by Diesel85 on May 11, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

does the NFL or the Players association publicize this stuff?

or is everyone guessing based on the initial press release that comes out around the time of the signing? I bet there is a bit of guesswork out there.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on May 11, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And my powers are gone

NFL Salaries

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John (obviousman) on May 11, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But what about your exception for rookie QBs?

The Rivers, and Flaccos, and Stafford’s do get paid the veteran money right out of the gate (heck until recently – they rarely survived long enough to sign their second contract). You’ve pointed out the QB are an exception. Why can’t we make an exception for Philip?

Not knock Jamal Williams he’s been the heart of that 3-4 for a very long time, but I think Rivers is the most deserving based on just last year’s performance.

by Trendsearcher on May 11, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rookie contracts

I don’t want to make exceptions with anyone, is the main reason. But there’s reason not to make an exception: that contract is based off of speculation rather than performance on the NFL field.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John (obviousman) on May 11, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cooper a Great Story

One note about Cooper being a great story and working his way up from being an undrafted free agent to a starting ILB and one of the leaders on defense. It should be noted that the only reason he was undrafted is that he had an issue with steroids in college as well. He was pretty highly regarded but the steroid problem caused him to go undrafted. To me that was the worst part about this past seasons four game suspension. He had already been caught in college and he gets caught again early in his pro career. Oh well maybe this time he learned his lesson, or not.
Anyway JW is my choice for most underpaid.

by JeromeB on May 11, 2009 7:30 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

His four game suspension in the NFL was for banned stimulants, not steroids.

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by Richard Wade on May 11, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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