NFL Draft Day 2 Open Thread
by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 6:19 AM PDT
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PrintThe Chargers have seven picks today! Should be very exciting. We're getting this started early, so put in the comments who you think the Chargers are still eyeing.
Wonko won the Mock Draft League, so congrats to him. He will be getting a customized Chargers t-shirt.
For a rundown of which teams picked which players on day one, visit Mocking The Draft.
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I'm in tha house
And, man, it’s early.
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There's one!
Come to brag about your victory?
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:02 AM PDT up reply actions
At least
I wasn’t asked to predict the Raiders draft. What I did was basic addition compared to that form of calculus.
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I love all the talk about the Raiders using a 2nd round pick on a safety that was expected to go undrafted.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:04 AM PDT up reply actions
One of the craziest picks I've ever seen
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I realize it's 7am on the west coast
I’ll just be posting the picks here in the comments until someone else shows up.
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This open thread is being held in honor of Bea Arthur
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Starbucks' sweetened green tea isn't very sweet
and that concludes my Peter King impersonation
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Good I think
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:06 AM PDT up reply actions
50/50?
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Jets trading up already
Who do they want? Shonn Greene?
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Jets give up 4th and 7th to move up in the 3rd. Wow
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Called it
Damn, I wanted him as a Charger
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:12 AM PDT up reply actions
Wonko and Grey Suit
thoughts on the English pick after sleeping on it?
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The same thing I last said about it yesterday
The Merriman/English/Phillips rotation needs to be a force in 2009. This year is a key year for the Chargers (although, with the way the rest of the division is going we may make the playoffs for as long as Rivers is our QB) and drafting a guy to replace Phillips or Merriman is not what the team needs to win a Super Bowl (and that is what its all about right?). Another key will be finding at least one major contributor to the 2009 team from the next 4 picks as well as 1-2 future contributors.
However, I still think this pick shows an organizational weakness for understanding what other teams will do and the ability to trade down when you should. It’s not the worst weakness to have as long as you can still identify and develop talented players that will help your team win ball games.
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Best draft so far
Has to be New England: Chung, Butler, Brace and Volmer (OT)
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Mel Kiper was a little critical
New England doesn’t address linebacker need
Normally the New England Patriots are praised for their selections and moves on draft day, but despite having four second-round picks, the Patriots didn’t select an outside linebacker when the team sorely needs one. They had an opportunity to select Clay Matthews in the first round, but traded out of the spot and then never addressed the position. In the second round, they also passed on Connor Barwin, Clint Sintim and Cody Brown. Those are some pretty good prospects who might have helped the Patriots’ aging corps of ’backers. Also, I was very surprised the team passed on running back Donald Brown, who could have been an excellent fit in this offense.
But, I think they did a pretty good job building depth. I also think that they like the LBs they brought in through the draft last year and their coaching will build those guys up. So, I think Mel Kiper is getting too much into this draft and forgetting about the good picks (Crable, Ruud) they made last year.
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My thoughts exactly
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Two Hawkeyes in a row
Nice….
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What reach is coming now?
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Chiefs select Alex McGee, DE, Purdue
Looks like a 3-4 DE
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Herm Edwards sounding a little shell shocked
“3 running backs, people say 3 running backs, you’re one hit away from being down to two running backs. So 3 running backs..2 young guys… you got an older runningback… you’re in good shape.”
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Yikes
I’m kinda glad I’m not listening to Herm. I love his press conferences, but he sounds like he’s having a rough go of it.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:20 AM PDT up reply actions
His (obviously prepared remarks) about the draft making apple pie were nice
But, yeah, he stumbles a bit. He’s got potential. Needs to get coached up a little. Maybe force him the lose at something before going on air to get in the press conference frame of mind.
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Larry English press conference at 1:30pm PST
on Chargers.com
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FYI. Due to ongoing repairs to a ruptured storm drain, Mini Camp on May 1-3 will be closed to the public.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions
ESPN poll they are putting on screen
74% of poll voters say the Chargers will win the AFC West. That is a large percentage, don’t you think? Any other conference that could be like that?
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NFC West?
Unless Hasselbeck comes back great and Mora Jr. learns how to coach
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Damn
There goes the best remaining DE prospect.
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I thought he was our pick
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess
I’m hoping for Rashad Johnson now.
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If this draft turns out well, I’m going to start making WWAJD (what would AJ do?) bracelets.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm still terrified about what will happen if Jamal gets hurt
And I’ve had this thought for at least the last 5 drafts. I can’t believe A.J. isn’t terrified by this as well.
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Ditto
Especially with his knees in the shape they’re in.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Anybody here worried
That they might get drafted by the Raiders here?
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SI.com has given each prospect a grade, between 1 and 5 (with 5 being the best)
It helps to identify reaches and good picks. Here are the grades of the picks today:
Greene – 3.88
Fletcher – 3.40
Magee – 3.81
Gilbert – 3.97
Williams – 2.96
Yeah….the Cowboys may have reached on that first pick.
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McShay on ESPN has a 30-100 scale
Greene – 79
Fletcher – 32
Magee – 74
Gilbert – 80
Williams – 37
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Raiders take a 6th round talent in the 3rd
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166th ranked by McShay
218th by DraftCountdown
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Back to Back
Jags picks. More OTs?
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Haha
Definitely
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions
No one wants TEs
They are piling up on Mel Kiper and Todd McShay’s best available.
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Mayock too
His top 3 available are all TEs
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 7:51 AM PDT up reply actions
And the Browns and Chiefs need one the most
and don’t have any picks left in this round.
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Rex Ryan
Making it sound like Sanchez will be starting week 1
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Interesting
I have the 4th pick in my keeper league’s rookie draft and my QBs are Hasselbeck and Tarvaris Jackson, so I’m looking at Stafford or Sanchez with that pick. It’s gonna be a tough decision.
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Niners grab Coffee
The run on running backs has begun
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3 picks untils ours
And 4 guys left on my 3rd round possibilities list
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NE just turned 3rd rounder into 2nd rounder next year
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1 pick to go
I’m getting excited about getting Rashad Johnson. Too bad I have no idea what A.J. will do. I might be getting excited for nothing.
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Louis Vasquez
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59 Grade out of 100
yikes
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140th ranked player on DraftCountdown
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SI.com 3.80
Highest grade since Michael Johnson to Cincy
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Here we go
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Chargers select Louis Vazquez (who?), OT, Texas Tech
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It's interesting
That Jimmy Raye talked about him as a run blocker when he was in a big time passing offense. That alone makes him intriguing. But, again, why didn’t other people see that ability as being 3rd round talent?
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NFL Net is calling him a Guard
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 8:03 AM PDT reply actions
Is there there anyone not calling him that?
That would be more interesting.
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Meant to be a reply to post above
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh, I missed that
He’s a guard. Don’t know why anyone would think he’s a tackle. They even talked about him competing with Forney and Clark (who they specifically mentioned as a guard for that discussion) on Pick Cam.
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That's my fault
I was a little quick to put OT when they said “offensive lineman”
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Gotcha
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
SI.com has him as a guard
Maybe he’s meant as a backup plan for Forney?
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions
BIOGRAPHY: Three-year starter awarded all-Conference honors since his sophomore campaign.
POSITIVES: Mammoth blocker with a good amount of upside potential. Quickly gets off the line, keeps his feet moving, and turns defenders from the action. Blocks with good lean, stout at the point, and anchors in pass protection. Quickly gets his hands up, fights throughout the action, and works to annihilate defenders. Displays good blocking vision, and works well with teammates.
NEGATIVES: Not a natural knee Bender. Marginal skills blocking in motion.
ANALYSIS: Vasquez is a powerful wide-bodied blocker with the ability to play in a number of systems at the next level. He has next-level size, and once Vasquez gets acclimated to playing in an NFL offense, he should quickly find a spot with the first team.
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I like it
Sounds like a good fit for us. Someone to compete with Clary.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions
From ESPN
Overall Football Traits
Production 2 Vasquez appears in five games as a true freshman during the 2005 season. He makes 23 consecutive starts during the 2006 and 2007 season. Vasquez appears and starts in 10 out 12 games during his senior campaign in 2008. Earns All-Big 12 honorable mention during the 2006 season. Vasquez earns a first team All-Big 12 selection during his junior season and second team All-Big 12 honors this past fall.
Height-Weight-Speed 3 Possesses good height and excellent bulk for the position but marginal top-end speed.
Durability 3 Slight durability concern after missing the Nevada and UMass contests this past fall due to a sprained left ankle.
Character 2 Majoring in general studies. Also no off-the-field issues we are currently aware of.
Offensive Guard specific Traits
Strength/Toughness 1 Mean and relentless. Outstanding upper body strength and flashes the ability to knock defenders off balance with punch.
Agility 3 Doesn’t show great body control, appears stiff and takes too long to change directions when gets into space. Adequate lateral mobility.
Awareness 2 Keeps head up and does a good job of recognizing blitzes. Flashes good patience when no one comes to him and difficult to beat when doesn’t over commit with first step. Vocal at the line and appears to communicate with tackle and center well.
Pass Protection 2 Gets excellent hand placement and rarely loses a battle once locked on. Plays with a wide base and though could sink hips a little more rarely gives ground to bull rushers. Makes up for lack of ideal foot speed with balance and sound footwork. Ducks head on occasion (see first quarter of the 208 Oklahoma State game) and vulnerable to push/pull moves when does.
Run Blocking 3 Gets into sound position and flashes the ability to drive defenders but primarily lined up in two-point stance at Texas Tech and tends to stand up coming out of stance when puts hand on the ground. (see first quarter of 2008 Oklahoma State game) Though lacks elite range and going to have problems getting around the corner if asked to pull does a good job of opening hips and quick enough to get around center when asked to trap. Takes adequate angles to downfield blocks and can cut off linebackers but has problems adjusting to moving targets in space.
Trait Scale
1 = Exceptional 2 = Above average 3 = Average 4 = Below average 5 = Marginal
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Kiper
Calls him a pass blocking guard as they show film of him on ESPN
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Yup
Seems like someone to compete with Forney. Good call I guess, if Forney turned out to be terrible (or hurt) it would kill our o-line.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:13 AM PDT up reply actions
I like the pick
It works. It just rubs me the wrong way that a few places see him as a 4th-5th rounder, but obviously SI.com had him higher than that so other teams probably did as well.
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Herm likes his size
“You can’t coach size”
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I wish they would have gone with Robinson
but then again I didnt see any of his work outs, or interview him or put in 1:1,000,000 of the reasearch the Chargers did.
How did Derrick Williams last until the 3rd?
He was great at PSU
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Because
He’s not 6 ft tall and he didn’t run an awesome 40.
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ESPN Scuots (which I had been calling McShay)
Had him with a (slightly) higher grade than Robiskie.
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Exactly
Would’ve made much more sense to me up there.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:17 AM PDT up reply actions
Potential to be Steve Smith
That guy plays with passion.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
There's only one
Steve Smith
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Only 29 picks to go
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Wow
Pothead to New England.
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nice
Wrong number though. He’ll probably be 53.
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Agreed
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Unless he invests
some of those millions in Tim Dobbins.
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Gonna have to do something about that position also. He’s an OLB now.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Cool
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Ramses
goes to replace Plaxico
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Most interesting prospect in the draft
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Him and Pat White I guess.
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Pat White
to the Dolphins was great. I hope they start him.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants fans seemed to like it
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Wow
Mel Kiper just called SDSU a major college program when talking about Barden’s competition.
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Giants draft looks good
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That it does
Toomer is done. Nicks/Barden/Smith/Hixon is deadly
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:29 AM PDT up reply actions
They have
Sinorice Moss too.
And all their RBs.
And they drafted a good tackle in Beatty. And addressed their OLB need with Sintim.
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Good God
I think they still have a hole at safety
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:32 AM PDT up reply actions
Colts draft looks pretty good
Filled two big needs at HB and DT with solid players
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Patrick Turner to the Dolphins
Go Trojans!
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 8:30 AM PDT reply actions
McShay
is criticizing the Dolphins for that pick and Kiper agrees. “6th or 7th round pick” “Didn’t succeed with Mark Sanchez at QB”
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Damian Williams
became Sanchez’s guy. He can still catch the ball, though.
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting conversation after the Turner pick
Edwards talking about how these are guys that fill a role won’t be asked to be starters. Kiper talks about missed opportunities in the 3rd as teams reach. He doesn’t recall a draft with so many 3rd round reaches. They bring up that this used to be “Day 1” when you talked about Day 1 a few years ago.
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I love how GMs are talked about like they’re children.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree with Kiper
I think you want to get guys in the 3rd that you see as projects, but will become a starter down the line. Or, if you’re a bottom dweller, you are looking for a guy who can start at a position now and still has room to develop.
The 4th round is where you can start to look for role players if that is worth more than looking at a guy that could be a future starter.
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Switched to ESPN
and that steroid-guy commercial made me regret my decision
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That's what the one comment earlier was about.
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by Natrone Bomb
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Hey
A TE!
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No safeties taken this round
good sign or bad sign?
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I think there's such a huge dropoff after Chung, Delmas and Moore
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought Johnson
was right with those guys. My understanding is the knock on him is being small. But still, it’s been a while since one of those guys was drafted. I think it’s more that the next crop (Bruton, Hamlin, etc) are so similar that teams are waiting for one to go before worrying that one of those guy won’t be there.
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Another "reach"
by the Falcons. Must be driving Mel nuts.
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NE already has three 2nd rounders next year
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Dicks
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
So one came from Seattle for a 3rd this year
Where’d the other come from? Trading down? I forgot.
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They just traded the 3rd they got from Seattle
to Tennessee for a 2nd next year. I’m not sure if they also got Tennessee’s third this year or not.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions
NE is robbing everyone blind
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh wait
It was Jax that they traded their 3rd for a future 2nd.
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They're playing a different game
It seems like every year they get twice as many picks, high picks too, than everyone else.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
NE that is, not Jax
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions
They've had 5 picks
in the first 3 rounds and still picked up those 2 2nds. Insane.
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Screw them for bitching about picking lower than the Chargers
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 8:56 AM PDT up reply actions
21 to go
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Johnson
To AZ. Lets see if the safeties start getting picked up.
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Eisen
“We’ve reached the compensatory part of the 3rd round, which means the Patriots cannot trade the pick!”
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They said that on ESPN too
about 15 minutes ago.
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BTW, Wonko
I’ll be contacting you by e-mail today or tomorrow to figure out what you want on your shirt. I’ll share the details with you in the e-mail.
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Only 1 TE left
For the Chiefs and Browns to fight over.
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Watching Rashad Johnson film
:(
I want him.
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Okay
4th round now. 12 picks to go.
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Nate Davis is way better than McGee
I don’t see how Davis is any worse prospect than Josh Freeman except of his learning disability.
I'm just waiting for next year and excited about the draft.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 9:16 AM PDT reply actions
Isn't Davis short?
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought he was small too (but in the weight department)
He’s over 6’1 and 220.
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Freeman
6’5 248
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I just saw 6'2", 217
Not bad. Major difference in competition between McGee and Davis
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think
There is that much difference between all the remaining QBs. It just depends on what a team likes. For the most part the Cowboys are drafting a backup anyway.
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Stafford interview on NFL Network
Had one dollar in his wallet yesterday. Now has zero. Spent the dollar in the airport. Ridiculous.
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He could walk into any bank in America and get a loan.
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He could buy any bank in America
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Chiefs
We don’t need no stinking Tight Ends!
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YAY!
Wahington is decent in coverage but can’t tackle to save his life.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions
He was OSU's nickel back
and has off-the-field issues.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait
What the?
Chiefs picked somebody in the 4th that could have been a 3rd rounder. A value pick? By an AFC West team? Unheard of.
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Travis Beckum
Looks like a star to me.
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Too short
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God
he’s 6’3. He looks like 5’11 out there.
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Exactly
He’s very big, but moves like a small WR. Looks almost Gates-ish. What a weapon. Giants are killing it.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm not buying it
Plus he was hurt a lot last year. But, if he gets past that, he could be solid. But, I think the size is a factor in that.
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Browns
We don’t need no stinking Tight Ends!
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Id like to see Chip Vaughn at SS
I'm just waiting for next year and excited about the draft.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 9:26 AM PDT reply actions
Vaughn seems alright
But he his rated too highly. A.J. Smith won’t draft him. I’m also thinking that none of the safeties left could beat our Hart or Oliver.
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at least not in 2009
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Maybe this is the year that Oliver figures it out
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions
SI.com has him as the second best Safety available
after Merrill Johnson
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions
same with ESPN Scouts Inc
same with DraftCountdown
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except the Merrill Johnson part
I meant they have him as the best available.
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Merrill Johnson
doesn’t make the top 250 of either of those lists.
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This may be why
POSITIVES: Undersized college linebacker who projects to safety at the next level. Fluid moving to the sidelines, quickly diagnoses the action, and shows skill in run defense. Covers a good amount of area on the field and gives effort.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions
That's a risky position change
Sounds like a 7th rounder or UDFA
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They project him in the 2nd for some reason
But I agree with you. I think they see him as a Thomas Davis-like player.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Davis was the opposite
College safety that had to convert to LB.
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less risky
A few players have done that.
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Mel Kiper has him
as the 3rd best safety available.
Rebel.
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Which Clinton? I want a box hitter to pair w Weddle
I'm just waiting for next year and excited about the draft.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 9:30 AM PDT reply actions
5 to go
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Interesting NFL Rumor via SI.com
I’ve had two NFL sources tell me there’s no truth to the National Football Post report that Matt Cassel has signed a $36 million contract extension with the Kansas City Chiefs. One of the sources said not only has there been no deal reached, but there have been no substantive talks between the Chiefs and David Dunn, the agent for Cassel, for a new contract. I noted with some interest at the NFL meetings less than a month ago that Dunn was frustrated that the Chiefs apparently planned to allow Cassel to play the season at his one-year tender of $14.65 million. And the two sources I’ve spoken to say nothing has changed, that there is not a new deal with the Chiefs’ quarterback of the future in place.
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I'm hoping for Jason Phillips and Andre Brown
out of two of these picks.
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Apr 26, 2009 9:42 AM PDT reply actions
Ugh
I really don’t like Andre Brown. He’s way too hesitant of a runner. Seems like the type of guy that will struggle with consistency.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions
crisis averted
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I've heard some rumors
That the Chargers were interested in McKillops as an ILB.
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Brown is gone
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ANdre I dont to invoke his name
But I see him as Ronnie Brownish
I'm just waiting for next year and excited about the draft.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 9:43 AM PDT reply actions
Ronnie Brown is overrated
Look at his numbers. He’s an unimpressive running back. The wildcat saved him because his throwing abilities made him a weapon
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
He was awesome
in 2007 pre-injury. I think 2009 will be a big year for him as he is healthier.
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Pick cam is up
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Already got the pick wrong
Said it was 112 when it’s 113.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Leroy Hill is now a FA
Seahawks withdrew their franchise tag after drafting Curry. Can he play 3-4 ILB?
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Apr 26, 2009 9:45 AM PDT reply actions
Sure! Why not?
Great news. Hope we grab him.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions
He's a pass rushing specialist
Read into that as you want.
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Anyone going to be unhappy if we grab Ian Johnson here?
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It fits the "too early" profile.
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I keep forgetting about Johnson
I’m a diehard Boise hater (work at U of Idaho), but I’m a big believer in shaynes’ effective 40 list from a few weeks ago. Johnson in the 5th sounds great.
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Apr 26, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
only problem
was he wan’t even the best on his team last year.
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Apr 26, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
javon ringer?
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by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 9:52 AM PDT reply actions
I'd like that
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Houston's pick is in
We are effectively up.
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Vaughn Martin
DL, Western Ontario?
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Didn't I mention him earlier this week?
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Yup, I did
Vaughn Martin/DT/Western University: Only on rare occasions does a college player from Canada catch the fancy of NFL decision makers, and that’s exactly what Vaughn Martin has done. Five teams went to London, Ontario, to watch Martin work out on the second Saturday in March. The 327-pound defender put on a show, running as fast as 5.07 in the 40 after completing 31 reps on the bench.
Martin has the size and strength to be used at nose tackle or middle guard. The Indianapolis Colts, San Diego Chargers and Carolina Panthers not only attended Martin’s workout, but also brought him to the states for an official visit.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Not in either top 250 I'm following
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i like position
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by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 9:56 AM PDT reply actions
Nose Tackle, maybe a temporary replacement for Igor
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That's apparently what they told him
When the Chargers called him
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It sounds good
Just another add place to pick the guy. They better be right about these guys.
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I'm waiting to see video on him
I’m excited
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Good luck with that
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Looks like you need more luck
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That didn't work
He looks nasty.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions
reminds me of igor pick
aj likes late risers
I'm just waiting for next year and excited about the draft.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 10:00 AM PDT reply actions
aj seems to trying to one up
beathard on obscurity, ray etheride blind in one eye
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by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 10:01 AM PDT reply actions
Len Pasquarelli from espn.com wrote an article about him:
A high school standout, Martin was recruited by several programs in the States, and signed a letter of intent to Michigan State in 2006. He failed to qualify at MSU, not because of poor grades, but because of a transcript problem with a class he had taken in ninth grade. Martin returned home, then attended the Milford Academy prep school for a year, and eventually enrolled at Western Ontario.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
Despite his failure to qualify academically at Michigan State, Martin is well-spoken and thoughtful. His intelligence is evidenced by his score of 38 on the Wonderlic test.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions
He's an underclassmen
And the NFL told him that he should consider declaring. According to the video. Of course, he’s already 22.
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lol
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by Wonko on Apr 26, 2009 10:05 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
There go some safeties
Vaughn and Bruton
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"we can go metric if we wanted to on Vaughn Martin"
Could you, Trey Wingo? Could you really?
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I think Vaughn Martin broke SI's Draft Tracker
They’re still stuck on pick 112.
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i think chargers need slot
too bad mike thomas is gone. w o parker or welker. too many tall slow wr. someone besides gates to make 3rd down. after rb.
I'm just waiting for next year and excited about the draft.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 10:15 AM PDT reply actions
Vince Jackson
was awesome at getting 1st downs last year. The Chargers are invested in Buster Davis being the slot receiver.
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Next 2 picks
One of them has to be RB you would think. Other options are probably S or ILB (although we have a lot of bodies there). Anything else would have some ’splaining to do.
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10 picks away
then two in a row
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I'll ask again
Anybody here worried about the Raiders drafting them?
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whoa
Another value pick. Louis Murphy. Another speedy receiver, but at a point that it makes sense.
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Yup
Too bad they have holes besides receiver that need to be filled.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
OK, also forgetting about Cedric Peerman
him and Jason Phillips with the comps. I like those picks, which means they have no chance of happening.
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Apr 26, 2009 10:33 AM PDT reply actions
You want Phillips for the inside?
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
thats his position
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SI has him as OLB
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
they messed up
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Yes, between him and Burnett
there’ll be at least one guy who can upgrade the position.
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Apr 26, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Phillips wouldn't be an upgrade
He might be a 3rd down LB.
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Kind of like
When Wilhelm would come in on third down back in the day.
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the sorriest cb in the league got traded
At least Al Davis is running my teams drafts.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 10:39 AM PDT reply actions
Ellis Hobbs to Eagles for two 5th round picks
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Eagles are being forced to trade Sheldon Brown
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Giants grabbed Andre Brown
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Anyone like Marcus Freeman as an ILB
He reminds me of Donnie Edwards a little bit
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OSU LBs suck
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wheres pick cam
At least Al Davis isn't running my team's drafts.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 10:44 AM PDT reply actions
theres movement
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i hear NFL Network
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its been like that since the last pick
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
is that some kind of infringement?
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More like marketing
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Broncos on the clock
then Chargers. Where’s pick cam?
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SI’s draft still broken by Vaughn Martin selection
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Okay we're up
Denver has picked… somebody
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Seth Olsen, OT, Iowa
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
How's pick cam going to handle this?
They’ve got to call two guys.
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No exciting picks yet. All linemen
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that is exciting :-P
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Another Value pick
AFC West back on track.
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3rd best guard in the draft
in the 4th round. Not bad
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
yup
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and he can play C
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NFL.com and Charger.com
show him as a NT for no good reason.
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Uh oh
Tyronne can’t work a phone
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2nd pick is Gattrell Johnson
I like him
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Big, strong boy.
We may have been able to get him in the 5th round though.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
RBs are kind of going in no particular order
based on outsider rankings. So who knows how long he’d be there.
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I remembered somebody liking him
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I only saw one game
A bowl game against….ummm….somebody. Johnson was a beast. Like a shorter version of Stephen Jackson
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
Fresno State
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions
what happened to big school players AJ?
At least Al Davis isn't running my team's drafts.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions
is he a fullback?
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by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 10:56 AM PDT reply actions
No
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
yes he is
he’s never played FB as far as i know
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Just watch some video on the kid
Just go to youtube and type in his name. He’s not going to break 80 yard runs, but his power and initial burst is what matters.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
cut your hair hippie
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Johnson with Joey Porter
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Great video profile of Gartrell Johnson
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Okay
off to Petco. Need to pick up somebody.
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Interesting draft so far
None of the picks have addressed the supposed needs at Tackle, Safety, and ILB
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions
OK, Cedric Peerman or Jamon Meredith
since a “RB” was already drafted, Meredith.
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions
Brandon Hughes
Oregon State, Cornerback. Odd pick
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions
Brandon Hughes, CB, Oregon State
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 11:38 AM PDT reply actions
Does this pick mean something?
Why pick up another CB (we have 4 or 5 that we like already) unless you’re planning on trying to move one of them to safety?
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
on the draft cam
They said he’s purely a corner, best at man to man
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
Considering we already have Jammer, Cromartie, Cason, Gordon, Tribble and Oliver….the only way this pick makes sense to me is if Cason (or may Jammer?) is moving to safety.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
maybe Jammer*
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
Acee says
Hughes (5-10, 182) is undersized and lacks great hands. A four-year starter who moved from receiver to corner as a freshman, he is probably hoped to be a nickel corner down the line.
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions
and I'm back
11 picks until our 6th rounder is up. Seems like it’s been forever since the last pick.
The Celtics/Bulls game is incredible
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8 more picks now
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Seahawks take Mike Teel
He’s terrible. Tons of potential though.
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Pick Cam
looks different. Press Conference?
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Ah yes
Larry English presser in 10 minutes. I guess 6th and 7th round picks will not be announced on pick cam
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm gonna watch it then switch to the Padre game
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Cary Harris to Buffalo
That’s TEN Trojans
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 1:23 PM PDT reply actions
Just got home.
Someone please tell me we got something decent.
I want to thank the good Lord for making me a Philip Rivers fan.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 26, 2009 1:25 PM PDT reply actions
nope?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 26, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Check the home page to see all the picks we got today
one physical freak DT from canada
a big, powerful, slow RB
a couple of offensive guards/centers
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Still looking for a S, LB, OT
Although the corner we picked up could be a sign that we’re moving Cason or Jammer to safety.
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
So basically
We continued the trend of picking players that play positions that we already have surpluses at?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 26, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Peerman
Did anyone see him lasting to the 6th? Good pickup by Baltimore, I think.
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agreed
he’s got a real chance to play this year, too. I’ll go out on a limb and say he’s the most successful rookie RB this season.
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Apr 26, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
He'll be 3rd string probably
Behind McGahee and Rice
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by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
to start out, yes
and there’s McClain too. Watch him get some time to start, and end up great, chris johnson/steve slaton-ish
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Apr 26, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Those are three guys that I don't think there's faith in as a full-time back
and Peerman has a chance to be that, possibly supplanting all 3. Equally injury-prone as McGahee, not just a goal-liner like McClain, not a small scattish like Rice. Maybe a perfect combination of the three.
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Apr 26, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
On the clock
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 1:38 PM PDT reply actions
YES!
Kevin Ellison from SC
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
He's a Safety, by the way
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess that's our safety
The CB pick looks dumb now
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
A safety! A safety! My Kingdom for a safety!
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 26, 2009 1:41 PM PDT reply actions
Sooo
One more pick?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 26, 2009 1:44 PM PDT reply actions
Yep
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Larry English press conference is live
He’s big, seems pretty cool
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 1:46 PM PDT reply actions
Let us know what he says
I’ll keep you updated on the Padres. 2-0 Friars after 2.5
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 26, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Just fluff so far. Excited to be here, excited to play with Shawne and Shaun and learn from Rivera
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Very anxious to play, wants to contribute, one of his favorite players was Lawrence Taylor
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Shawne Merriman
has been tweeting that he likes the English pick…
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 26, 2009 1:48 PM PDT reply actions
7th round/talk to his agent now for a FA contract
Ian Johnson
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Apr 26, 2009 1:53 PM PDT reply actions
get this man on the phone now!!!
I would love Ian Johnson as a UDFA
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 26, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Hoping
We sign UFAs with Russell Allen and/or Boudreaux
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 26, 2009 1:55 PM PDT reply actions
not yet
I’m hoping the chargers mine SDSU for the UDFAs. I like Allen, the SS, and Lance Louis the big guard
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 26, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions
and there goes Louis
246 to da Bears
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 26, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Norv's up there now
http://www.chargers.com/team/draft-2009.html
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
4 more picks then our last one
And thank goodness, I need to go outside!
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 2:59 PM PDT reply actions
Peavy blew it.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 26, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I saw
Sad
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Our last pick
coming up in a bit.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 26, 2009 2:59 PM PDT reply actions
On the clock
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 26, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions
What about Jennings?
His size and speed make him a good project RB
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Demetrius Byrd, WR from LSU
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 3:11 PM PDT reply actions
YES!
Love that pick. Glad they took him. Big, strong WR with great hands.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Apr 26, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
this was the guy in the car accident from last week.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 26, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2009-04-20-byrd-accident_N.htm
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Byrd, Demetrius WR 6’0" 199 LSU
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 26, 2009 3:12 PM PDT reply actions
Just gonna watch draft cam
John Spanos is gonna talk about Ellison and Byrd, THEN I’m going outside
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by matthewverygood on Apr 26, 2009 3:13 PM PDT reply actions
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