Will the Chargers Trade Down in the First Round of This Years Draft?
There has been a lot of talk about the Chargers trading down in this years draft to get back into the second round. So lets take look at some of the potential trading partners that Chargers may have. Using the NFL Draft Trade Value Chart we can see that the Chargers draft picks have the following values:
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Round |
Pick (Round) |
Pick (Overall) |
Value |
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1 |
16 |
16 |
1000 |
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2 |
N/A |
N/A |
N/A |
|
3 |
14 |
78 |
200 |
|
4 |
13 |
113 |
76 |
|
5 |
12 |
148 |
36 |
|
6 |
16 |
189 |
21 |
|
7 |
15 |
224 |
8.6 |
As you can see in the table, the 16th overall pick in the draft gives the Chargers 1,000 points to play with. Looking at some of the other teams pick values the following trade scenarios look to be plausible:
Potential Trade Partners
|
Team |
Pick 1 |
Pick 2 |
Pick 3 |
Total Value |
||||||
|
Rd |
Pick |
Value |
Rd |
Pick |
Value |
Rd |
Pick |
Value |
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Falcons |
1 |
24 |
740 |
2 |
23 |
350 |
N/A |
0 |
0 |
1090 |
|
Dolphins |
1 |
25 |
720 |
2 |
24 |
340 |
N/A |
0 |
0 |
1060 |
|
Ravens |
1 |
26 |
700 |
2 |
25 |
330 |
N/A |
0 |
0 |
1030 |
|
Colts |
1 |
27 |
680 |
2 |
29 |
292 |
5 |
29 |
28.6 |
1000.6 |
|
Eagles |
1 |
28 |
660 |
2 |
21 |
370 |
N/A |
0 |
0 |
1030 |
|
Giants |
1 |
29 |
640 |
2 |
28 |
300 |
4 |
29 |
47 |
987 |
|
Lions |
2 |
1 |
580 |
3 |
1 |
265 |
3 |
18 |
180 |
1025 |
|
Rams |
2 |
3 |
550 |
3 |
2 |
260 |
4 |
3 |
88 |
898 |
|
Browns |
2 |
4 |
540 |
2 |
18 |
400 |
4 |
4 |
100 |
1040 |
As we all know it takes two to tango and even though the trade values add up nicely on paper it does not mean that these teams will accept the Chargers invitation to dance. So let’s look at each of these teams and see if it would make since from them to want to trade up.
Falcons – The Falcons biggest need is DT but unfortunately for them this draft class lacks first round talent at that position. The only way I could invasion the Falcons wanting to move up to #16 would be if BJ Raji was still on the board, but if that happened I don’t think AJ would pick up the phone because he would be way to busy writing BJ’s name on his draft card.
Dolphins – I would be shocked if Bill Parcells traded up in the draft, the Dolphins have needs at LB and a WR and may be tempted to give the Chargers a call if Maclin was still on the board but I just don’t see Parcells doing it.
Ravens – The Ravens need help at WR and if Maclin is on the board I could see them possibly trying to move up but with 5 WRs projected to go in the first round of this years draft I don’t think the Ravens will pay the extra picks to move up and get him. The only other option I see is if the Ravens fall in love with one of the LBs from USC and feel like they need to move up to secure him.
Colts – Like Parcells the Colts are really not known for wanting to move up in the draft, also the Colts main need is DT and as we discussed before there is really no key DTs other than Raji that would spark a teams interest enough to pay the extra draft picks to move up.
Eagles – The Eagles are an interesting team because they have two first round picks and lots of holes they need to fill. If one of the big four OT slips out of the first 15 picks it would not surprise me to see the Eagles move up and try and get them. Also if somehow Sanchez or Stafford is still available at #16 I would imagine that it would be incredibly tempting for the Eagles to try and move up and snag the ere apparent to Donavan McNabb. I could also see the Eagles try and move up to get either
Giants – The Giants biggest need is WR so I could actually see the Giants trading their 2nd round pick for Chris Chambers but I don’t see them moving up all the way to #16 to draft a receiver.
Lions – Lions have a ton of picks in this draft from the Roy Williams trade but they also have a ton of holes from having Matt Millen as there GM for a decade. If the lions decide to go with Jason Smith with the first overall pick I could see them possibly trading up to #16 to draft Josh Freeman before the Bucks can get him at #17 but that would give them 3 first round picks and probably not enough cap space to sign them.
Rams – The Rams may actually be the best trade partner that the Chargers have. The Rams first need is an OT which they will draft with the second overall pick in the draft but they also probably need to draft a QB to replace Bulger within the next few years which could be a guy like Josh Freeman. In return for the #16 pick in the draft the Chargers would get three picks in the top 103 picks of the draft as well as probably the rams third round pick in 2010.
Browns – The Browns are a very interesting trade partner, they have two second round picks and may acquire a third if they trade Edwards. However Mangini does come the Bill Belichick school of drafting so it is not very likely he will want to move up on the draft. But if the Browns feel like they have a big enough need at RB, WR or TE I could see them trading two of their second rounders to get back into the first round.
In the end I think the Chargers are most likely to strike a deal with the Rams but it seems like this is a rather weak draft class so convincing any team to move up may be difficult.
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interesting
It’s good to see all the options laid out like this. Very well done. The more I look over it, the more I think we are not going to trade the pick. I don’t think there is any obvious partner who really wants to move up into the middle of the first round. That could change depending on who is available once the draft rolls around to there.
I think there is a slightly better chance that we might get a future pick from someone for this one. Teams seem a little more willing to trade away future draft picks than current picks.
I’m really hoping that AJ doesn’t decide to trade one of our future picks to get a second rounder this year.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 16, 2009 8:06 AM PDT reply actions
What about trading UP as an option?
just kidding. Stockpile the picks, AJ.
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Apr 16, 2009 8:25 AM PDT reply actions
I actually looked at that a bit
and it is way too hard to move up without a second round pick unless they trade a future pick.
Great post
I was certain we were going to trade down before reading this. Now I’m pretty sure we won’t.
The Eagles hate picks above 20 because they hate paying rookies. Plus, although he didn’t perform well against Baltimore in his first playing time (who would?) the Eagles still believe Kevin Kolb is their future QB. They’re out unless they absolutely LOVE Moreno.
Bucs won’t be drafting Freeman now. They’re paying enough money to Leftwich and McCown, plus they already have a “project QB” in Josh Johnson.
The Rams are a possibility if there’s one OT left that they like at 16.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
I think the signing of Leftwich indicates that they will draft a QB.
I think the Bucks see Leftwitch as a stop gap to fill in for a few years while the QB that they draft this year adjusts to the NFL.
kind of depends on how they see Johnson
Josh Johnson was the QB at USD and was drafted last year by the Bucs and was their third QB this year (more or less). He was pretty heavily scouted for being a small school QB, but put up sub-par numbers at the combine and was taken later then he was projected at the start of his senior year. If the bucs think he has potential to be their QB of the future, then I don’t see them drafting a QB. If they don’t then they may be looking for a 1st day QB. I think they see Johnson as their current QB of the future and won’t be taking a 1st day QB. Then again, probably no one outside of 1 Buc Place knows how they really feel about Johnson.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 16, 2009 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions
the regime change also adds to the uncertainty.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 16, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Great post
But I think it depends if Oher, Jackson, Mauluga, and Jenkins are off the board. If they are all gone, then I think AJ moves down. Othewise, whatever’s left of those 4.
Hate to be that “guy”, but I don’t think Philly has 2 2nd round picks. I think the only rounds they have multiple picks is the 1st, 5th, and the 6th. New England (unfortunately) has 3 2nd round picks with Miami, Cleveland, and the Giants have 2 each.
Good comment
and welcome to Bolts from the Blue!
The more I think about the draft and the Chargers the more I feel like a fool for even considering these things. It was matto619’s comment yesterday that said:
Luis, Shawne, Buster, Antoine, Jacob, Weddle. Nobody saw any of them coming.
and he’s exactly right. Cromartie was already being discussed as somebody who nobody saw AJ picking which is the only reason he’s not mentioned in the list. Buster Davis was the closest one, somebody that the pundits knew was at least on our radar, but every other pick left Chargers fans running for their computers to figure out everything about who we just got. If I had to bet on Oher, Jackson, Maualuga, Jenkins, Moreno, Wells or the field….I’d take the field.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Apr 16, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I think gettign Oher at 16 would be a huge coup.
But otherwise, I think AJ could go anywhere with the pick.
by Brendan Scolari on Apr 16, 2009 11:14 PM PDT up reply actions
I knew Weddle was on our radar
In fact, the moment I heard they had traded up, I knew that was who it was for. I don’t want to make it seem like I’m special or anything, but if I knew others knew.
Castillo was definitely a surprise. I wasn’t even convinced that a team would take him in the first round until the Chargers did. The only team I had heard him connected to in the first round was Philly and I didn’t believe it. Hester and Cason were also surprises. Hester just didn’t fit with where we picked him (I thought he was going much later) and I don’t think I’d seen a mock that had Cason as a first rounder.
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
Oh Wonko
You’re special to me.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Apr 20, 2009 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't think the Rams will take a QB with a high pick.
Bulger has a huge contract, so he’s the starter for at least the next couple of years.
by Brendan Scolari on Apr 16, 2009 11:06 PM PDT reply actions


































