My favorite UDFAs
Remember the 2003 draft? Remember who our top four picks were? You can be forgiven for not knowing that we drafted Sammy Davis, Drayton Florence, Terrance Kiel, and Courtney Van Buren. Aside from D-Flo, a pretty forgettable group. But none the less, it was one of the Chargers best draft days ever. Why? Because of the Undrafted Free Agents we signed (UDFAs are college players who were not drafted so they can sign with whoever they want). Look at this list:
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Three pro bowlers, three starters, off the scrap heap of college football. In subsequent years we have signed Wes Walker, Antwain Applewhite, Jyles Tucker, and Mike Tolbert last year. UDFAs have been very, very good to the Chargers.
So it got me to thinking, who are the impact UDFAs going to be this year? Of course, it is impossible to say. But if you ask me, anything past the first 5 picks in the draft is borderline impossible to predict, so if we are willing to speculate on who the Chargers might draft at 16, then we might as well speculate on the UDFAs we might sign.
Here is the challenge: Suggest a potential UDFA the Chargers might sign. The only requirement is that there has to be a good chance they won't be drafted, so projected as a round 6 or later. Is there someone from your alma mater you want to point out? Someone you or your kids played against in HS or college? Someone who you vaguely remember from a late night Thursday night game who just took over a game?
Give us their name, measureables, and how they would fit into the Chargers. They should have at least a chance of making the team, even if it's only on the practice squad. Don't suggest a kicker or punter. If you're going to suggest someone who doesn't fit into a position on the team (like a classic run-block only fullback), you're going to have to point out how they might fit in. Sell us on your man.
I've got some resources and a potential UDFA to show you what I mean after the jump.
NFL Draft Scout with round projections
College Pro Days (wasn't Kathy Ireland the kicker for Texas Southern in Unecessary Roughness?)
So here is my pick, I mentioned him before in a fan post, but here is the run down:
J'Nathan Bullock, TE, Cleveland State University, 6-5, 240 - Bullock was a power forward on the CSU basketball team that played in the NCAA tourney. He has not played football since High School (where he was honorable mention all-state in Michigan). Ran a 4.73 at his pro day. Faster than most, but not real fast. Kellen Winslow Jr ran a 4.62, Shockey ran a 4.64. He has the power forward skills that we admire in Gates, uses his body to block out the defenders, good hands, and has the athleticism and balance to catch the ball in traffic. Has had private workouts with the Bills, Bucs, Bears, and Browns (all B teams...) Plus, he is graduating next month with a degree in Mechanical Engineering, so his wonderlick score should be fine.
I think there is probably a spot on the practice squad for a guy like J'Nathan. We've got Gates and Chandler with Manumaleuna if we need him. The jury is still out on Chandler, he hasn't really shown anything (due to inexperience and injuries) in his two years here. It would be nice to start grooming Gates' backup and eventual replacement.
If you don't know where to start, take a look at the players who have been visiting the Chargers.
I expect you SDSU alumni to point out a few. (Also, you use that link to find out who is available from your alma mater and what their "rank" is)
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Is it in order? Do you like Dielman more than Gates?
"I bleed powder blue." - Antonio Gates
by matthewverygood on Apr 10, 2009 12:09 PM PDT reply actions
Necessary Roughness
The University was Texas State. Which at the time of the movie did not exist. In 2003 Southwest Texas State renamed itself to Texas State.
And yes, Kathy Ireland played the kicker, Lucy Draper.
Memo to baseball managers: You manufacture runs by NOT making outs, not by making them on purpose.
my mind is like a steel trap.
I say we draft Manumanu the Slender, also from Texas State.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 10, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
what about that OT/G - Lance Louis
Former TE so he’s got some athletic ability. Coming off injury. 6-3, 303. 4.7 in the 40 (that’s right, 4.7). We are in need of some OL help as well. details.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 10, 2009 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah he is a possibility
He would definitely be a project and would have to spend a season or two on the practice squad.
All about Russell Allen and Corey Boudreux
I want to thank the good Lord for making me a Philip Rivers fan.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 10, 2009 10:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Where does Boudreux play in the NFL
6-1, 220 is a bit large for a FS. Does he move to SS? Can he cover? The big enforcer SS (Roy Williams, Rodney, etc.)seems to be losing favor. Is he more of a nickel cover LB in the NFL? Or is he exclusively a special teams player in the NFL? Where would he play with the Chargers? I can’t find any workout numbers for him, any idea how fast he is?
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 11, 2009 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
Plays FS and SS at SDSU
40 Time: 4.62 40 Low: 4.50 40 High: 4.72
I want to thank the good Lord for making me a Philip Rivers fan.
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Apr 11, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Good Work
I am new to this particular SB blog, and you seem thorough… I think I am geeked. I dig this post, and your site thus far. So good work.
gully
Fresno State
is anyone from FSU getting drafted this year? I know their QB will probably get drafted. Anyone else?
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 11, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Bear Pascoe
Arguably the best part of the offense the past 2 years. TE with average everything, (6-5, 252) but a ridiculous drive, and propensity to make plays. Supposedly a later rounds talent, but he was every Bulldog fan’s hero a number of times. His numbers were average, but Brandstater (QB) was garbage. So Pascoe wasn’t dealt the best balls all the time. He was legit, and I pulling for him.
Cole Popovich (Center) might get drafted….From the local paper; “The oft-injured Popovich arguably had the most impressive workout, benching 225 pounds 37 times and leaping 31 inches in the vertical jump.” Popovich was a beast when healthy, he was Captain, and he was popular. But he did get hurt all the time, and his surgery history seems like a deal breaker.
And honestly if Brandstater plays well I will be shocked. Watch him play, and you will notice that he never seems to fully grasp the game. He is good for 1 “WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING” throw per game.
All my shit talking aside I am pulling for each of them on the strength of their alma mater. I mean Lorenzo Neal was my favorite Chrager for a few years.
gully
by DanRed on Apr 11, 2009 11:52 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
who could forget Billy?
Carr, Volek, Pinegar, and then a steep drop off with Brandstater.
But Lorenzo was, is, and will always be everything I love about Fresno State.
gully
I was trying to think of
some players from my Alma Mater, CAL POLY, and of course Ramses Barden’s name comes up immediately. He will most likely be drafted in the 3rd round, so he doesn’t really fit the bill. Another receiver from Cal Poly who might get a look is Tredale Tolver, who is quick but undersized. Running back Ryan Mole might also be given a shot, though he is also a little undersized. If anyone remembers the Cal Poly v. SDSU game this past year, these 3 guys (along with QB Jon Dally) figured prominently in the Mustang win.
Since Alex Spanos is a Cal Poly Alumni, it should come as no surprise that Cal Poly players get looked at by the Chargers each year. After all, Kasim Osgood started his collegiate career at Cal Poly.
Do or do not. There is no try.
Nebraska WR
originally from Minnesota, Nate Swift. He probably doesn’t have the measurables, but watch any Nebraska game the last two years and I guarantee you’ll see at least a few big plays made by the guy. A good overachiever type. Back in Jan/Feb, I saw a few sites calling him a potential 7th-rd pick, but I’m not sure where he’s at now. I made the comment several times during the football season that I’d love to see him picked up by the Chargers.
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Apr 11, 2009 9:03 AM PDT reply actions
definately doesn’t have the straight line speed you look for in a WR with a 4.7 40. You’re really looking for 4.5 or lower. here are our current WRs and their 40 times:
VJ: 4.46
Chris Chambers: ??
Buster Davis: 4.41
Malcom Floyd: 4.5
Legedu Naanee: 4.41
Kassim Osgood: 4.68
Eric Parker (I know) : 4.5
so he probably fits the special teams player mold more than anything, based on Kassim’s inability to get time at WR in the NFL.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Apr 11, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions
Chambers
Ran a 4.33 40 at the 2001 combine. That’s pretty great.
I think I now understand why Osgood has such a hard time getting on the field. He seems to have a good “top speed” but his acceleration cannot match these other guys.
Also, everyone knows the story about Deion running his 40 somewhere around 4.1 and going straight into the tunnel to never be seen again for the rest of the combine. However, did you know that Deion also decided to run the 40 backwards at FSU’s pro day and did it in 4.57? He ran the 40 backwards faster than Osgood ran it forward! Think about that. (I love Deion stories)
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Apr 11, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions
The other reason is that he drops his fair share of balls thrown to him.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Apr 11, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
New to this site
but I’ve been on SBnation for a while. SI.com has a good article about this topic with quotes from AJ Smith and they profile Allen from SDSU.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/don_banks/04/07/welker/index.html
Good stuff.

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