Chargers Cornerbacks
Quentin Jammer has quietly developed himself into a great cornerback. He is consistently a league leader in 'Yards per Attempt'; this year he came in under six and close to a forty percent forced incompletion rate. He did have four TDs thrown against him and had some off games. The other thing not registered in his run support defense. He really brings big hits and comes up fast on running plays. Against Tampa Bay he just demolished Jeff Garcia on his bootleg late in the game. He does not have the best hands, but did come up with two interceptions this year including one great catch against Peyton Manning. When Jammer broke into the league corners could be much more aggressive which was just his style. He struggled considerably when the NFL clamped down the rules and was usually among the league leaders in pass interference calls. Now he is still among the most physical corners, yet still isn't called for many PI violations. One blip on the horizon, Jammer often went out late in games with hamstring or cramp issues. He does have a number of years in the league now and he may be on the down side of his career where he begins to lose a step and have more injuries.
Jammer via assets.espn.go.com
It was clear that Cromartie had a down year; but just how awful you don't realize until you see some of the more detailed statistics. He allowed just over 11 yards per attempt, virtually double Jammers figure and had a forced incompletion rate of just 13%; roughly one third Jammers rate. He had the hip injury early and that clearly hampered him; and some of his numbers were the result of safety play, but Jammer played with the same safeties. Even last year his yards per attempt were high, but then he had the interceptions which more than made up for it. Quarterbacks also had an awful lot of time to throw the ball in Merriman's absence, the lack of a pass rush certainly contributed too. Still at some point you have to say that Jammer played under the same conditions and played remarkably better; next season should be make or break for Cromartie. Cromartie was also a pretty tepid tackler, partly that may be the result of his hip injury, but he often just looked awful when confronted with larger ball carriers. Last season I was thinking they should have been trying to sign him to a long term contract; it looks like waiting was pretty shrewd.
The Chargers nickel corner saw a lot of action this year. Antoine Cason had a good year. His yards per attempt were under six like Jammer; but his forced incompletion rate was only %20. He was one of the best and surest tacklers on the team; he needs to work some on keeping the receiver from catching the ball. He made two interceptions but had 3 TDs thrown against him. Considering this was his rookie season; I have to like what he has shown so far. If Cromartie comes back healthy but doesn't return to form, I can easily see Cason competing for that starting position.
Cletis 'Flash' Gordon is the backup corner. He is extremely fast and did some good work filling in for Jammer early in the season. Against the physical Steelers he was exposed as not being quite there yet. With Cason, Cromartie and Jammer all being first round choices it is hard to picture AJ investing more in this secondary. A talented second tier free agent or undrafted free agent that shows promise might be looked at for next season. (HT to Tony Pisano for his article on the top 50 corners)
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HT?
OK, I’ve been embarassed to ask for the risk of exposing myself as a web moron. And I get that HT is some kind of acknowledgement for “finding” something. But…
I have to know what it actually stands for. Please enlighten the noob (I think that’s a word the kids are using these days, right?).
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Feb 4, 2009 8:39 AM PST reply actions
I have surmised
“hat tip”
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Correct
Sorry, I’ll spell it out from here…
"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman
by Brian (DaBolts) on Feb 4, 2009 12:15 PM PST up reply actions
Well now you don't have to.
The air has been cleared!
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Geeez Dabolts!
Don’t be such an asshole!
Brady Hoke, Al Borges, and Rocky Long. Aztec football is back!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Feb 4, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
No...
see, now I’ll have something over future newcomers. It’s like I’m some kind of BFTB vet now. Look at that, I’m even using blog acronyms!
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Feb 4, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions
BFOB?
Ohhhh nm. BFTB.
Brady Hoke, Al Borges, and Rocky Long. Aztec football is back!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Feb 5, 2009 12:52 AM PST up reply actions
Ha
Ok, HT it is.
"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman
by Brian (DaBolts) on Feb 5, 2009 7:19 AM PST up reply actions
Good breakdown, rec'd
My opinion of Jammer has grown greatly this year.
I went to Football Outsiders for more info, and surprisingly the 08 Charger secondary had a MUCH better DVOA against #2 WRs than #1 WRs (link: http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamdef). Was Jammer or Cromartie usually lined up across from the #1 last year? Caveat: FO states that their #1 vs #2 WR determination is “somewhat subjective.”
Yes
We oftentimes line up Cromartie against umber 1 receivers. I think the idea has been that Cromartie is faster and taller than Jammer, and therefore is better at keeping up with Moss, Marshall, etc. In 2007 Cromartie became a favorite of the coaching staff and almost surpassed Jammer in terms of lining up against number 1 receivers. However, Jammer has grown a little bit each season and is a much more consistent defender. Jammer also has done a stellar job against Randy Moss during his career.
by John Gennaro on Feb 4, 2009 10:41 AM PST up reply actions
Are you sure about this
It seems to me that if you are looking from the quarterback perspective then Jammer is always lined up on your right and Cromartie is always lined up on your left. I don’t recall a play this year or last where that wasn’t true. IIRC there are only a few CBs that will actually switch which side of the field they cover.
Usually this will work out that the guy on the right is covering the #1 receiver because most quarterbacks are right handed so they want their best receiver in the position where the QB doesn’t have to throw across his body.
1-10-DEN 18 (9:52) (Shotgun) 6-J.Cutler pass short right intended for 19-E.Royal INTERCEPTED by 93-L.Castillo (95-S.Phillips) at DEN 18. 93-L.Castillo to DEN 14 for 4 yards (62-C.Wiegmann). 6-J.Cutler pouts ob to DEN 25 for 11 yards.
Hmmm
Maybe what I’ve seen is opposing teams attacking Cromartie with their best receivers? I do notice that Jammer and Cromartie are always lined up right/left, but it seems that every time we’re up against a big-time receiver (especially one with great speed) that he’s always going against Cromartie rather than Jammer. Maybe it just works out that way.
As two examples that really stand our, Marshall torched Cromartie in the 1st meeting and still didn’t face Jammer much in the 2nd meeting. Also, Cromartie was against Wayne while Jammer was up against Harrison for most of the Colts game. Cromartie was against Ward a lot while Jammer took Holmes, although that can be debated as far as who their #1 is. They’re not up against the same guys on every play, granted, but it seemed to me that Cromartie was usually up against the fastest, most talented receiver the offense had.
by John Gennaro on Feb 4, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Maybe opposing teams are picking on Cromartie?
It’s pretty easy to choose your matchup if he’s always on the left side.
Wayne, Marshall, Ward/Holmes
Wayne lines on the left most times in the Colts offense. This is a remnant of Harrison being the #1 receiver. If you’ve watched enough Colts games and you think back to almost every big Reggie Wayne play, he’s lined up on the left.
Marshall gets moved all over the field. They were definitely picking on Cromartie’s side.
The Steelers switch the two guys back and forth. I remember Ward being on the right a lot in the past, but in the Super Bowl it seemed like Holmes was on the right a lot, especially on third down which is when the Steelers do the majority of their passing.
The big caveat for all these is obviously that sometimes teams put both receivers on the same side or only one WR is in for a play, then all bets are off as far as to who lines up where. At least to my knowledge.
1-10-DEN 18 (9:52) (Shotgun) 6-J.Cutler pass short right intended for 19-E.Royal INTERCEPTED by 93-L.Castillo (95-S.Phillips) at DEN 18. 93-L.Castillo to DEN 14 for 4 yards (62-C.Wiegmann). 6-J.Cutler pouts ob to DEN 25 for 11 yards.
i guess the short answer
is that there’s no real delegation of who covers #1 and #2 receivers. Cromartie gets the left side and Jammer gets the right. The best WR on that side gets covered by that corner.
What I was trying to get across is that since there’s no real delegation, it’s obvious that we have no problem with Cromartie covering #1 receivers. Although he’s as consistent as Jammer to this point in his career, we feel pretty good with either corner out there.
I distincly remember at the Pats game
Seeing both Jammer and Cro on Moss at different times
by matthewverygood on Feb 4, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
I'm so excited for the draft.
I want it to come now! Also baseball.
Brady Hoke, Al Borges, and Rocky Long. Aztec football is back!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Feb 4, 2009 6:08 PM PST reply actions
Lucky for you
They come out the same time. Well, the draft comes a little later, but it’s hard to come at the same time.
1-10-DEN 18 (9:52) (Shotgun) 6-J.Cutler pass short right intended for 19-E.Royal INTERCEPTED by 93-L.Castillo (95-S.Phillips) at DEN 18. 93-L.Castillo to DEN 14 for 4 yards (62-C.Wiegmann). 6-J.Cutler pouts ob to DEN 25 for 11 yards.
Yeah, there's NOTHING to do now
I think maybe I’ll start watching hockey or something
by matthewverygood on Feb 5, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
NCAA Basketball
is pretty great. Too bad the NBA blows.
Brady Hoke, Al Borges, and Rocky Long. Aztec football is back!
by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Feb 5, 2009 3:50 PM PST up reply actions
Trojans just got mauled by the Bruins last night
So I’m not following college until March
by matthewverygood on Feb 5, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions




































