The Cap and the Stadium
It seems like he makes more of the 'uncapped' prospect than is really there. Also what he doesn't mention is who is going to buy those luxury boxes; SD has a limited number of corporate HQs, they are never going to see the types of revenues that the Redskins do.
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LA and OC
Whole lot more corporations from elsewhere in SoCal will be getting those boxes
by matto619 on Feb 11, 2009 11:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cap
Man I hope the cap doesn’t go away… I like how creative you have to be to sign players.
by Jonny Dub on Feb 11, 2009 6:54 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Modify the Murph?
Everyone I have talked to agrees that the best place in San Diego for a football stadium is right where it is now in Mission Valley. The main reason the Chargers have been looking elsewhere is because of the political and financial situation of the City of San Diego. The current location has great parking, and reasonable car and mass-transit access.
That got me to wondering why they don’t just modify Qualcomm stadium? If its just a matter of luxury boxes, couldn’t they just add another level of boxes? Wouldn’t it be cheaper to “remodel” the current stadium than build an entirely new one? It’s not like it’s falling apart, the thing is built out of concrete, it will be there forever if you don’t tear it down. I hear talk about how the stadium is decrepit, but I never have noticed that, and wouldn’t it be easier and cheaper to fix the current one than to build a new one? Any stadium engineers out there? Am I missing something?
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 12, 2009 8:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
It's easier and cheaper to build anew
than to maintain it as it is or attempt any remodeling.
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by Axion on Feb 12, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Good Question
My understanding is that the stadium is in poor enough repair that fixing it is going to be about as expensive as rebuilding it at this point. Having been there in the rain and seeing various leakings and drainage issues; it seems pretty shabby. I couldn’t find an article, but here is one quote:
As for San Diego’s Qualcomm Stadium, a league source said it is in serious disrepair, including crumbling concrete and substandard drainage which could make it unsafe very soon.
The Chargers original plan involved Condos and commercial real estate on the property to help offset the costs; but the city didn’t want to spend the money back then; the economic prospects are obviously more bleak today.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Feb 12, 2009 9:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
$850 mill for new stadium
This UT article puts the cost of a new stadium at $850 million. The article is about two years old and I don’t know how much the current economy has affected stadium costs. The guy who is planning on building his stadium in the City of Industry is spending about that much. Even if the cost of a new stadium has decreased, I would bet the ability to pay for it (be it public, private, or team money) has decreased even more.
I’ve been to the stadium recently and I know it is showing its age. I haven’t seen any crumbling concrete and I’ve never been at the stadium during the rain, but I don’t believe fixing drainage issues would be that expensive. Plus, I’m not sure that a “league source” is the most trustworthy source for this sort of information. I’m sure it costs a lot to maintain, but a new one is going to have maintenance costs as well. Maybe its the downturn in the economy talking, but $850M sounds like a lot of money for something brand new when we’ve got something that might be able to be fixed up for significantly less.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Feb 13, 2009 9:07 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Been there when it rains
Several times. In the Plaza level there are a lot of spots where water from the deck above just drains down onto some poor fan below. And not at the edge like you’d think. Sometimes water just finds it’s way through a hole in the deck above.
I’ve also sat in the first row of Lodge/Club when it’s rained hard. the water for the rows behind made a pool of water about 4 inches deep at our feet… could have been a clogged drain or something.
by Jonny Dub on Feb 16, 2009 8:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not as cost-saving as you'd think
The people that have seen the structure for inside (i.e. not the fans area) have given some pretty scary descriptions of the disrepair. I’m pretty sure you’d have to almost completely tear down Qualcomm to get it to a point where any self respecting building inspector would sign off on the construction.
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by Wonko on Feb 18, 2009 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
About Lowering the field for more seats...
Discussion 3 years ago on Gaslamp:
http://www.gaslampball.com/2006/1/24/12157/3343#3250179
I emailed the Chargers front office and they had this to say:
While that idea was thrown around a few years ago, it has not come to
fruition. The main reason it has not happened is mainly because the
field itself is already on sea level. You know how when we have rains
and the SD River overflows? It’s usually talked about mostly by the
mall and anywhere where it impedes traffic?. Well, on those same rainy
days the water and sewage tunnels here at the stadium back up and
overflow. The simple fact we have not had a game on those days helps
the fact that no one realizes the stadium grounds get just as flooded as
much as mission valley and pacific beach area.
Small side note: 4 days after the last Super Bowl that was here – we
were hit with a tremendous rain storm that had the super bowl been one
week later – there were serious questions on if the game ever could have
been played here.
So no, the field will not be lowered to accommodate the lower field
seats. However those tickets down on that level are reduced for not
only Season Seat Purchases, but also single game sales as well
While we do hope to have a new stadium on the City agenda before it is
too late, you can make sure it will be the utmost state-of-the-art
facility that will have no obstructed view seats or anything to make
people wonder what is next to improve the facility
Thank you for you interest in the San Diego Chargers
by Jonny Dub on Feb 16, 2009 8:35 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Interesting; it makes a lot of sense.
I just caught this the other day. That whole Fashion Valley area can get like a swamp when it rains enough.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Feb 16, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman
by Brian (DaBolts) on Feb 16, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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