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by Richard Wade on Dec 29, 2009 1:40 PM PST in San Diego Chargers Daily Links Comment 28 comments

Chargers Mailbag
Kevin Acee answers stupid questions from fans.

Dombrowski demonstrates worth to Bolts - Sports - SignOnSanDiego.com
There remains the possibility, and even likelihood, that the Chargers will decide to rely on Jon Runyan’s experience come playoff time. But Brandyn Dombrowski deserves every bit of his playoff share for what he has done to help the Chargers win, and he has cemented a future for himself in the NFL.

"Turner's plan for the week" by Bolts Bulletin
"We've had some guys playing with injuries over the past month," Turner said today. "… Certainly, if there is someone we can help them by limiting how much they play or not playing them, that’s what we’re going to do. If there is someone who is limited because eof an injury we’ll take that into account ... We have to weigh all those different things, but we’re going to go play the game."

Quick Reads
Rivers was our choice for MVP heading into the season, and while it'll be hard for him to win it with Peyton Manning and Drew Brees ahead of him, the falls of both the Colts and the Saints give Rivers a shot. He was devastating on third down against the Titans, converting six of seven chances, with four plays of 20 yards or more. His numbers would have been even more impressive had he thrown a single pass in the fourth quarter.

Broncos Thoughts and Musings - A look back at Chargers Week - Mile High Report
This is just an amazingly fun read. Here's a taste, "Bear in mind that they also didn't plan well enough to avoid it. They didn't run the extra sprints that the Broncos endured to get in better shape than their opponents. They didn't make the personnel moves that the Broncos did, realizing that no matter how good you were supposed to be, an 8-8 record will rarely get you into the postseason. They didn't identify the weaknesses that they had, nor the ones that could arise with age, injury and contract status. They didn't do enough to prepare themselves for the fact that Shawne Merriman was very unlikely to have a great year this year. Few will, after the kind of surgery that he had. In short - they didn't plan to succeed, either."

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That Broncos Post is brilliant

For all the whining about the Chargers’ arrogance, that post sure is laced with it.

by gman87 on Dec 29, 2009 1:59 PM PST reply actions

A great quote

I can’t even express my gratitude for the fact that Josh McDaniels has very good management skills. He won’t carry arguments into the media, rarely gets flustered and keeps things behind closed doors.

by gman87 on Dec 29, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs

Irony at its finest

Fortune-telling Fail:

Before the Monday Night Football game that extended the Broncos’ record to 6-0, Chargers TE Antonio Gates said, “One thing that gives us a chance is that we’re still in the hunt in the AFC West. We never said it had to be pretty, and it wasn’t pretty last year.” After the game, it was a lot uglier. If Gates believes that the Chargers are still in the hunt, he needs to define his terms pretty quickly.

Checking standings … Yup, Chargers won the division.

Arrogance:

Beating Kansas City has given the Bolts a brief respite, but that’s hardly a road back into the land of the competitive. While I do think that the Denver game as been a wakeup call of Shakespearean proportions for San Diego, their problems run too deep to permit them to make the late season run this year profitable. The game in Denver will be a grudge match. Given the state of the raiders and Chiefs, that’s a good thing. It may keep thing much more interesting.

How kind of the Chargers to “keep things interesting” since the Broncos are so clearly above the rest of the AFC West, so sorry you had to look down your noses as us. I’m surprised the Broncos didn’t try to leave the AFC West to be a part of a “more competitive” division.

I realize that the story needs to be taken in context, and the Broncos (and their fans) were certainly riding high at the time, but man does it drip with arrogance.

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by creanium on Dec 29, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions

just posted that below before I caught yours

so you get a rec

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by Axion on Dec 29, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions

Yeah

Reposting that one was treat to read. Well done, sir.

by shaaners on Dec 29, 2009 2:14 PM PST reply actions

Shows the dangers of jumping to conclusions.

Many here, myself included, were guilty of the same thing.

The “running extra sprints to get in better shape than opponents” is a little much though, under any circumstances.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Dec 29, 2009 2:37 PM PST reply actions

Haha maybe thats why

the Broncos are 2-7 the last 9 weeks. They’re gassed from running all those extra sprints!

by Natrone Bomb on Dec 29, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions

Or they're just not very good

You can’t trade away a Pro Bowl QB, for a QB that has never before even broke the 3000 yard passing mark in his career and expect there not to be consequences.

by SoCalBoltFan on Dec 29, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions

That seems like a silly thing to say

Considering that if they beat the Chiefs this week they’ll have improved on their record from last season. And, considering that they will have improved in advanced metrics like DVOA as well from a below average team to an above average team. I don’t think it’s a consequence of that as much as its a sign that they have made moderate improvements rather than gigantic ones.

And then there’s the Cutler bashing comments that will commence in 3..2..1..

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by Wonko on Dec 29, 2009 3:55 PM PST up reply actions

Ok

Cutler or Orton, who would you take?

by SoCalBoltFan on Dec 29, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions

Orton

But not for the Broncos. Keep him away from the Broncos. And Raiders. And Chiefs.

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by Wonko on Dec 29, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions

Really?

You must be basing that off of his college career, because as a pro he has been nothing special. If the Broncs still had Cutler this season, I believe they would have improved greatly since last season, instead of just moderately.

by SoCalBoltFan on Dec 29, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions

Cutler sure does lead the NFL in interceptions and the guy in second isn’t terribly close.

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by Richard Wade on Dec 29, 2009 4:47 PM PST up reply actions

He has no receivers over there

He has a TE and thats it. I am NOT a Jay Cutler fan, but it’s not hard to see he is a better QB than Orton.

by SoCalBoltFan on Dec 29, 2009 4:58 PM PST up reply actions

Two quality tight ends and Forte. 26 interceptions is a lot regardless of who your receivers are.

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by Richard Wade on Dec 29, 2009 5:03 PM PST up reply actions

I doubt he would have that many INTs

If he was still in Denver.

by SoCalBoltFan on Dec 29, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions

Depends

A lot of his INTs this year are from him throwing off balance and forcing throws. I think the old Den coaching staff did a good job of coaching him up where his talents could overcome his ability to lose his mechanics. The Den coaching staff is different this year. I think both QBs are a poor fit for the offense in Chicago. Both are fits for the old and new offenses in Denver. More shotgun, better protection, more time to read the defense. Cutler also benefited from the best running game in the NFL last year. The running game under McD hasn’t worked as well.

Truthfully, I think Cutler is probably the more talented QB. Orton is a better decision maker. Both were handicapped in Chicago. The additional picks that the Bears gave up to get Cutler shows that they had a misunderstanding of their situation. The Broncos are better off now because of those picks and Orton than they were before, even if they didn’t optimize their usage of those picks.

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by Wonko on Dec 29, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions

I can agree with that

Cutler is more talented and Orton is the better decision maker. That sounds about right. But one thing I’ve noticed when I’ve watched the Bears (especially early in the season) is Cutler and his recievers lack the chemestry that Cutler had with Marshall and Royal last season.

by SoCalBoltFan on Dec 29, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions

Well

It’s not like Marshall helped Cutler that much anyway due to his production issues. Royal and Stokely also helped drag down Cutler’s production. His real value in the Denver offense was throwing to his TEs and his RB. Orton (or McD’s offense) is not as good at taking advantage of these options.

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by Wonko on Dec 30, 2009 5:19 PM PST up reply actions

Full disclosure

I went to Purdue and Orton was the QB for 3 of my years there.

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by Wonko on Dec 29, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions

And he was a beast at Purdue

Everyone knows that, but the pros…..not so much.

by SoCalBoltFan on Dec 29, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions

He doesn’t want to cheer against him.

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by Dude52089 on Dec 29, 2009 5:01 PM PST up reply actions

hahaha, oh wow

I can’t even express my gratitude for the fact that Josh McDaniels has very good management skills.

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by Axion on Dec 29, 2009 3:59 PM PST reply actions

I tried to post a comment...

on that blog but it was closed from further comments. That’s a good thing cause we can all jump on there and bash the post and myopic donkey fans. That would be too easy. We’ll set our sites higher than some lunatic rantings of a short-sighted non expert. Apparently that dude has no concept of playing 4 Qtrs or 16 games.

by slimsocal678 on Dec 29, 2009 5:46 PM PST reply actions