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Scouting the Bowl Games Part 2

I continue my series on college bowl games by covering the Christmas weekend slate of bowl games including our own Poinsettia Bowl. The first set of bowl games basically told me this: Ryan Matthews is a pretty solid RB, but probably not worthy of a 1st round pick because of lack information about how he does in the passing game and some ball handling skills that result in fumbles and that Rutgers OT Anthony Davis is so good that he will definitely be off the board when we pick. Without further ado, here's the upcoming bowl games and then the scouting reports after the jump.

Poinsettia Bowl: Utah vs. California

Hawaii Bowl: Nevada vs Southern Methodist

Little Caesers Bowl: Marshall vs. Ohio

Meineke Car Care Bowl: Pittsburgh vs North Carolina

Emerald Bowl: Boston College vs. USC

Music City Bowl: Kentucky vs. Clemson

 

Star-divide

I'm going to focus mainly on players that will probably go in the 1st or 2nd round. I'm going to focus on positions that might interest the Chargers, which means lots of front seven players, offensive tackles and running backs. I might mix in other positions, but I'll give a reason if I do. I'm also just using all draft eligible players, which will include some Sophomores and Juniors who may end up staying in school. I probably won't mention a top of the draft guy, unless I really want to say something about him or I think there is a slim chance he could slip or we could trade up. Okay, on to the players:

 

Nawa'akoa Misi, DE, Utah, Senior - I see some places where his first name is listed as Koa, but I think have a diacritical mark in your name is awesome. Just ask a Star Trek character. Anyway, he falls under the category of generic mid round pass rusher. He fits the size of a 3-4 OLB at 6'2 256. He should get after Cal QB Kevin Riley.

Tyson Alualu, DT, California, Senior - Another cool name. He's a DT for Cal, but at 6'2 291 lbs he's a DE to the Chargers. See if he can get after the passer or stop the Utah rushing attack. If he's a playmaker, then he could be a guy the Chargers look at in the middle rounds of the draft.

Michael Tepper, OT, California, Senior - Looks like we're done with the cool names. This big boy is a late round sleeper, but definitely has size at 6'5 317. He's a better pass blocker than run blocker and is smart enough to pick up stunts well. Sounds like something the Chargers like (i.e. big guy who can pass block). He's been injury prone, so he's a guy that we might be able to sneak onto the PS despite drafting him. It's worth noting that he'll probably be going head to head with Koa Misi, so that should be a nice test.

Various Nevada Players, Seniors - Okay, this is cheating, but all Nevada has is a bunch of potential late round/UDFA guys that play positions we kind of need. So here's there names, positions heights and weights: Jon Amaya, S, 6'0, 193; Alonzo Durham, OT, 6'2 301; Michael Bethea, ILB, 6'1, 231 and Alonzo Durham, C, 6'2, 300. Nevada's a good team, I expect one of these guys to at least be quality role player in the NFL, I'm just not sure who (although it could be senior RB Luke Lippincott, 6'0 214, who will miss the game with a toe injury).

Dion Lewis, RB, Pittsburgh, Freshman - Dammit, I'm cheating again. This guy won't be draft eligible until 2012, but chalk this up as if I had told you to watch fellow Panther Larry Fitzgerald in his freshmen bowl game (Where he made two one handed catches and piled up the yards) because this guy is fun to watch. He is so shifty that you'll find yourself saying "wow" as guys miss him. He's fun, but we'll have to wait a couple years before seeing if he can be in the blue and gold (better figure out a trade now that can get us a top pick in 2012). I also highlight him because there was no one else worth pointing out from Pitt (or SMU, Marshall and Ohio for that matter).

Bruce Carter, OLB, North Carolina, Junior - He's small for a 3-4 OLB, but if he bulked up a little he could be rangy ILB for the Chargers and there's a lot of people out there that think we need to find one of those. He grades out as a first round pick so he's probably a nice talent to watch. Also, you'll be able to tell how many UNC fans there are by the "Bruuuuce" chants.I wouldn't bet on him joining the Chargers next year, but if he declares he's probably going in the second half of the first round.

Marvin Austin, DT, North Carolina, Junior - Another top talent for the Tarheels. He's 6'2 303, so he could bulk up and play the nose or he could be a DE in the 3-4. He's got a high enough grade to signal that he's a possibility for the first round, but could slide to the second. I've seen more than more scouting report that just raves about this guy, so he could be a Larry English type where half the talking heads think he's a steal in the late first and half think he was a reach.

Aleric Mullins, Cam Thomas, Earl (E.J.) Wilson, DL, North Carolina, Seniors - UNC is loaded on the defensive line. All these guys come in as 6'3 big boys (306, 321, and 374 lbs respectively). Mullins is considered a mid round pick and the other two are late rounders. Their bowl game, all star game, and combine performances will help to separate these guys to find out who is benefiting from the others and who belongs in the NFL. Basically, just watch the Tarhee front 4 and take note of who is making some big plays (they'll need them to keep the ball away from Pitt's next 1st round pick WR sophomore Jonathan Baldwin and to stop the aforementioned Dion Lewis and talented backup freshmen RB Ray Graham).

Mike McLaughlin, ILB, Boston College, Senior - Mid to late round grade and stands at 6'0 247. Fits the mold for 3-4 ILB, but I'm not sure if he's got the range we want. We'll see if he can do anything to slow down the USC hydra at RB or make some plays covering the USC TE Anthony McCoy.

Taylor Mays, S, USC, Senior - We seem to be set at safety with Mays' former teammate Kevin Ellison and Eric Weddle, but I've been touting this guy for a while so why stop? He's 6'3 236 and supposedly he's going to run an insane 40 time. If you youtube him you'll find a ton of big hits, including one on a Penn State WR in last years Rose Bowl. This guy is going to make some NFL team real happy. His draft status has been slipping since the USC defense doesn't look as good without Maualuga (Bengals), Matthews (Packers) and Cushing (Texans) who were all 1st round picks last year, which seems unfair to me. I love this guy, but he'll be gone by the time we pick and probably doesn't fill a need for us. He'll do his best to put some hard licks on BC's star sophomore RB Montel Harris.

Everson Griffen, DE, USC, Junior - I think that even though he weight 272, he could slim down and play OLB in the 3-4. He already plays "standing up" sometimes in the USC's defense and he reportedly runs like a LB, which is a good sign for someone making the transition. I'm not sure that fills a need for us, since Griffen grades as a late first, early second round pick. Still, he's a playmaker on USC's defense and probably worth watching. He did get arrested over the summer for disturbing the piece in Nantucket.

Micah Johnson, ILB, Kentucky, Senior - He's 6'2 256 lbs and, I believe, was already mentioned by a BFTB member as a guy they like to become a Charger's ILB in the future. He's grading as a mid to late round pick and the scouting report for the game said: Micah Johnson is an instinctive downhill thumper, however, he lacks prototypical range and struggles to play in space, which does not bode well against the speedy and elusive...

C.J. Spiller, RB, Clemson, Senior - I love C.J. Spiller. He does it all. He's a great return man and an explosive running back. He's also a really good receiver and can poss block. The only knock on him is size. He's 5'11 196 lbs, which is a little small for an NFL back. So what? Just let him run for touchdowns and work on keeping him healthy as much as possible. They don't take away the points you scored before you get hurt.

Ricky Sapp, DE, Clemson, Senior - Another pass rusher ticketed for the end of the first round. He's a finesse rusher who uses his length and quickness to gain the edge. He's also really light for an NFL DE at 6'4 245 lbs so he's probably going to a team in need of a 3-4 OLB. I doubt it will be the Chargers, but everyone loves watching sacks right?

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Nice work, Wonko

I may have been the guy who you mentioned liking Micah Johnson here. I of course would really like McClain or Spikes, but if Johnson fell to the 3rd I’d certainly consider him.

Not overly enamored with Mays. His size & athleticism wows you, but he overruns plays & misses tackles looking for the big “highlight reel” hits. I like a guy with pop, but he has to be a sure tackler. Berry is a better all-around safety.

AJ, & probably most GM’s, speak of having a “cluster” of players that they identify as possible choices for any given pick. We like to follow that methodology at another site that I’m involved with. You can view the very beginnings of this year’s thread here.

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

Robert Hunter

by Buck Melanoma on Dec 23, 2009 5:30 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Micah Johnson

From what I’m reading he’s a lot like the guys we have already (Dobbins, Siler) both of which were late round picks. That looks like where Johnson would project, so it’d be a mighty reach to take him in the 3rd round. Maybe his bowl, all star game and combine performances will change that. But, as of right now that doesn’t looking like a prudent use of a 3rd round pick.

I agree that Berry is the better all around safety, but I wasn’t comparing Mays to Berry at all. I was just saying I liked him. The criticisms you give him could also be said of Polamalu.

Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.

by Wonko on Dec 23, 2009 9:26 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

From what I’m reading he’s a lot like the guys we have already (Dobbins, Siler)

No wonder Buck loves him.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Dec 23, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Johnson won't fall as far as Dobbins or Siler

He may go as low as the 4th, but not to the bottom of it, where we’ll be picking. And yes, I like him for similar reasons, the main one being that he fights through blocks to make tackles, unlike some of our current ILB’s.

And Mays is no Polamalu. There’s actually been some talk of him projecting to LBer at the next level. And yes, he does miss tackles at times by going for the big hits instead of wrapping up. Sorry if that upsets any USC fans, but it’s true. Most of his current weaknesses are coachable. The stiffness in his hips is not.

Mays will put up big combine numbers & Uncle Al will grab him. Or Carlos Dunlap.

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

Robert Hunter

by Buck Melanoma on Dec 23, 2009 2:45 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mays is a very sure tackler...

But he cannot cover to save his life.

He is simply a linebacker with good speed playing safety.

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 23, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like Thomas Davis.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Dec 23, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He's better than that

CaDuck is underrating his coverage abilities. He really is a lot like Polamalu and because of that he may get drafted outside the top 15 just like Polamalu.

Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.

by Wonko on Dec 23, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

From NFL Draft Countdown's Scott Wright

(Since my words may not be explanatory enough)

USC’s Taylor Mays probably would have been the first safety selected in last year’s draft but he chose to return for his senior season and that has opened up his game to excessive scrutiny. The most common criticism is that Mays doesn’t make enough big plays in coverage (i.e. interceptions) but it’s important to keep in mind that he’s more of a big hitter than a playmaker. Is Bob Sanders any less of a great player than Ed Reed because he only has six career picks? Of course not, they’re just different types of players. A great athlete with an amazing blend of size (6-3, 230) and speed (4.28), Taylor Mays | Southern Cal Trojans Mays epitomizes the phrase "Hits Like a Linebacker, Runs Like a Cornerback".

Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.

by Wonko on Dec 23, 2009 12:33 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

And when he says "runs like a cornerback" I don't think he means just the 40 time,

Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.

by Wonko on Dec 23, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This season he blew coverage right and left.

Like I said earlier, he is as sure of a tackler as you will find and he has great size/speed. But he does in fact need to work on fixing his coverage issues.

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 23, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Mays would take away

Ellison’s starting spot in a minute.

by JeromeB on Dec 23, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That is not saying too much.

They are very similar players, great tacklers/big hitters; but struggle in coverage sometimes.

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 23, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

All good points

that I would agree with. Maybe I give Mays a little more credit in coverage than you do, and I may be wrong.

by JeromeB on Dec 23, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I may be underestimating him,

After all, I only watched the Ohio State game, Oregon State game, and the Oregon game…But, In all of those games he had trouble in coverage.

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 23, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure you already went over the Eagle Bank Bowl...

But I really hope the Chargers can end up with Brian Price (UCLA, DT). He has played amazing all season. We just have to hope he declares for the draft

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 23, 2009 11:18 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

The Eagle Bank Bowl

is next Tuesday. I’ll probably put up the FanPost with that game in it on Sunday. I might put Price in it, but I’m pretty sure he won’t be available when the Chargers pick.

Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.

by Wonko on Dec 23, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Good DT's go very quick in the draft.

I would be more than happy to see the Bolts trade up for an extremely talented and young DT

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 23, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

He'll probably declare

As a Bruin, I don’t want him to leave, but it’s really in his best interest to declare. His stats were just ridiculous this year for a guy that was probably double teamed all year.

by freesia39 on Dec 24, 2009 12:03 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Love reading your Bowl write ups

I know that you are a big Spiller fan, my concerns are: He seems like a utility back along the lines of Reggie Bush (only a little smaller and a little less success in college).
Even Sproles put up bigger numbers running the ball in college.

Also if we get “lucky” and Spiller is there when we pick I think that insures that Sproles will not be here next season (he probably will not be anyway). I have no doubt that Spiller is better than Sproles but I am not sure that the amount of the upgrade is worthy of a first round pick.

by JeromeB on Dec 23, 2009 12:53 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I doubt we will be drafting Spiller...

If we do draft a running back, i’m sure we would go with a bigger back that can run up the middle a little better. More of an LT type replacement

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 23, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope that you are right

as that is what I would prefer as well.

by JeromeB on Dec 23, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

This year we have seen that a Sproles type player (I would imagine that Spiller would fill a similar role) is not valuable enough to invest a first round pick on.

Hopefully we can strengthen our lines through this years draft.

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 23, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That would be more

like Ryan Mathews. Nearly identical size, good speed, decent hands. Not much of a blocker.

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

Robert Hunter

by Buck Melanoma on Dec 23, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hope we draft CJ Spiller

Just so we can have the distinction of CJ Spiller and CJ Spillman on the same team.

And hell, let’s get both Steve Smiths over here as well just for fun.

by creanium on Dec 23, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Both Roy Williams?

The Rivers-Rivers INT this past Sunday made me curious how many times that’s happened.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Dec 23, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec'd for no other reason than I was thinking the same thing

The Padres seem to have a penchant for having siblings on the same team (Gwynn, Giles, Gonzalez), why can’t the Chargers do something similar?

by creanium on Dec 23, 2009 5:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think there's a reason

guys like Sproles and Bush can’t be full time backs in the NFL. There is a certain instinct and shiftiness required to run in all situations. Bush and Sproles despite their big differences in size are both good straight line runners and have an ability to make people miss in space. What I’m trying to look for are explosive fast guys who can hit a hole in the line and go, and then make people miss in open space while not being so light on their feet that they get lit up when they get hit. That’s what LT was, and what Chris Johnson and Maurice Jones-Drew are. Spiller is the closest to that. Jahvid Best is the second closest. The next top backs (Matthews and Dwyer) both have some concerns in space to go along with concerns in the passing game. Sure, they could run up the middle, but judging by how many bodies get to LT and Sproles when they try to do that, there’s not really going to be a back that can elude them all. That’s why I think you need someone who can hit that hole quickly before those guys get there and maybe make a move that gets them free. If LT still had that, we wouldn’t be talking about issues with the running game. Sproles is too hesitant and not shifty enough to break open because the first tackler will slow him down too much and when you run up the middle and slow down, more bodies follow.

Basically, what I’m saying is I’m not so worried about the measurables, but more about the skills to succeed in the Chargers offense. If I was using size as the determining factor (i.e LT’s size) then there’s only 1 RB that will go in the first two rounds that would meet that criteria and that’d be Ryan Matthews. I gave my opinions on him already, but I’m not ready to give up looking for the next Chargers back just because he’s the only one with the right size.

Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.

by Wonko on Dec 23, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Good take

Mathews right now is the guy, from a physical standpoint, that looks to be fully ready to carry the load of a FT NFL RB. We see that – you know that the guys who get paid to scout know it as well. He isn’t the most explosive, although I do believe that some of this is indecisiveness that may be a coachable trait.

My take on the RB situation, bottom line, is this …..

LT will not be a charger next year if we win a SB. He’ll retire & be a FT father. If we don’t win it, he’ll either have to take a sizable pay cut or be gone.

Darren is a toss-up right now. We know that he isn’t a feature back, so now we have to look at a lower pay scale. Is that wherre he feels he belongs? My gut tells me that he’ll go & we’ll have a DB/KR or WR/KR type from the draft returning kicks.

Hester is here to stay. He’ll get a few carries & do a nice job on ST.

Tolbert will stay & provide what he’s very good at – picking up tough yards, surprising the opposition with his quickness & speed, & learning to be a good lead blocker.

Bennett? he didn’t get used this year, did he? I tend to think that he has some pretty fresh legs for a thirty-ish RB, but he isn’t the “answer”.

So we do this …. we find a FA RB who is a legit feature back for the next 2-3 yrs. We draft a change of pace/project in later rounds – say 5th or later.

In 2 years, the draft class is much deeper in RB & we get our next stud.

My thoughts? Off the top of my head ….. we look at Deangelo Williams (probably a bit expensive), Pierre Thomas, Jerome Harrison …. some of these guys I’m mentioning may in fact be RFA’s due to the CBA issue.

Lock up our aerial threats, make a reasonably affordable & productive investment in the RB position, & draft athletic fat men, particularly on the defensive side of the ball.

Defense wins the bling.

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

Robert Hunter

by Buck Melanoma on Dec 23, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm,

We need to pick up Jonathan Stewart!

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 23, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

One problem

With no new CBA, there aren’t going to be many free agent RBs on top of what is already a very thin position in free agency.

Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.

by Wonko on Dec 23, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

That's true

as many will still fall into the RFA category. There will be a few, though. Need to do some research on just who will be an actual FA.

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

Robert Hunter

by Buck Melanoma on Dec 24, 2009 5:23 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Bennett could be that interim back.

by gman87 on Dec 24, 2009 10:43 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Spiller is a talent

and I could handle him being on the team but I think he would have to split time in a dual back system.
At this point I am pulling for Dixon, I know he has his downside but he would be my choice. Maybe they could even get him in round 3.

by JeromeB on Dec 23, 2009 2:52 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I pretty much a dual back system anyway

The Spiller arguments are pretty moot because he’ll go pretty high in the draft. I just like him and I think he’ll be a quality NFL RB and far more exciting and explosive than someone like Knowshon Moreno. I’d like to see Dixon at least once more, I’m pretty sure we’ll probably have to settle for a partially acceptable back with a later pick anyway. But, obviously that means we won’t put all our eggs in one basket with that one back, so that begs the question who will he split carries with? Is it possible that they’ll bring back LT? Do they have some plan to be able to bring back Sproles? Is there something else we haven’t thought of?

Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.

by Wonko on Dec 23, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Or, we pick up a scatback early and a bruiser late in the same draft.

We could probably snag Jahvid Best in the first (or trade up in the second) and LeGarrette Blount in round 5 or 6. Two picks spent on RBs might be a bit much considering our wants and needs across the board, though…

"Wipe that golden tear from your mother dear, and raise what's left of the flag for me."-- Flogging Molly, "What's Left Of The Flag"

Ali Villanueva (OT/WR, Army) has 460 yards and 5 TDs in only 7 games with a mediocre quarterback. Just sayin'...

by StrangeBroP25 on Dec 23, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Two things

One … as you said, we have enough needs in other areas that I really don’t think that we should be attempting too much trading up. We’ll already be down our 6th, possibly 5th round pick with the Travis Johnson trade. It could be a 5th with all of the snaps that he;s taking.

Two …. Blount may go even lower than 5th & would be a very good value at that round or later. I just don’t think that AJ will look at him very hard due to the punching incident. I personally don’t think that it was such a big deal & he’s done fine since, but you know AJ is a real stickler for “character”.

Spiller is way out of our reach unless you want to pull a Ditka/Ricky Williams scenario. That just can’t happen & I’m pretty darn certain that it won’t.

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

Robert Hunter

by Buck Melanoma on Dec 24, 2009 5:29 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We could do the exact same thing in reverse as well.

I know a lot of people are vehemently opposed to us drafting Toby Gerhart, but it is an AJ-type pick. Maybe we could also spring for a guy like Noel Devine (West Virginia), Michael Smith (Arkansas), or Brandon James (Florida) in later rounds. Unfortunately, speed guys tend to come off the board faster than power running backs.

"Wipe that golden tear from your mother dear, and raise what's left of the flag for me."-- Flogging Molly, "What's Left Of The Flag"

Ali Villanueva (OT/WR, Army) has 460 yards and 5 TDs in only 7 games with a mediocre quarterback. Just sayin'...

by StrangeBroP25 on Dec 24, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

LGB has done a very good job of repenting for his punch...

He showed great promise in the Civil War, and he could be a good value in the 6th or 7th round.

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 24, 2009 6:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agree. I think he could be the power back we all wanted Hester to be.

Also, dude, trim the sig.

Banned from Arrowhead Pride... and Music City Miracles certainly don't like me very much, either.

"Ah act the way ah feel." --Elvis Presley

by StrangeBroP25 on Dec 24, 2009 6:52 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Trim the sig?

Thats a no go my friend.

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 24, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

AJ does draft guys with apparent bad character.

Antonio Cromartie anyone? Everyone knew that Cro had character issues coming out of FSU

Juju, you have already blessed the Duck masses by diverting Terrelle Pryor to Columbus Ohio; and in the process granted us one magical Masoli who happens to be "sicker than E-Coli (I know from experience with E-Coli, Masoli must be pretty damn sick)". We are all mutually gracious for this blessing. However, in our time of dearest need, we request that one Terrelle Pryor succumb to your overwhelming collegiate football dictation skillz.
Your very own Humble servant,
CaDuck

by CaDuck on Dec 24, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t remember hearing that. Ego? Yes. But there’s a difference between that and somebody who could potentially pull an Artest.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Dec 25, 2009 3:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

scatback

I don’t know what this is and it sounds German and dirty.

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Dec 24, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

It's what Darren Sproles and Reggie Bush are.

Mountain West Connection ::Above the Rest::
Bolts From The Blue "There’s a gleam men. Let’s go get the gleam! Focus and Finish!!! One play at a time!!! Let's Go!!!"
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Dec 24, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I watche the Poinsettia and Meineke Bowls

I liked Tyson Alualu. He made some good plays in run defense. Misi was pretty good too and Tepper had a real hard time containing him. The UNC DTs didn’t impress, but I’ll admit I wasn’t watching them much because I love watching Dion Lewis so much. DE E.J. Wilson did impress me with his hustle and he made some big plays in the game as well. We could do worse with a mid round pick.

I'm the first person to admit that I'm wrong about a lot of things, but I'm going to be the last person to admit I'm wrong about what we're currently talking about.

by Wonko on Dec 26, 2009 8:28 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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