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Game Preview: San Diego Chargers at New York Giants

Sorry this is a little later than usual today.  I had a bit of a busy day.  That helped though, as it gave me plenty of time to contemplate what might be the most important, and one of the most evenly-matched, games of the season for the San Diego Chargers.  Are you ready to dive in and see what the stats say about this game?  Me too.

I'm going to start by dedicating this post to Wonko and maestro876, because for the first time at BFTB.....this week's game preview will include your normal stats and a dash of the super-fancy stats from Football Outsiders as well.  Let's get to it.

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When the Giants Have the Ball

Don't let the recent history fool you, this is a good offense.  When healthy, Eli Manning is a more-than-capable quarterback.  The running game, also fighting through nagging injuries, is not too different from the same ground game that won the New York Giants the Super Bowl in 2007.  This offense has the potential to get a lot better very quickly, and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened on Sunday.  Especially considering the Giants are at home, heading into a bye, on the verge of losing their season and it's a marquee matchup that the rest of the league will be watching.

Looking at the classic stats, the Giants offense has been quite good this season.  They're ranked 5th in offensive yardage per game and 9th in points scored per game (both higher than the Chargers).  Their rushing offense, which is still very dangerous, is ranked 7th in the league in terms of yards per carry and yards per game.  The New York passing offense, which has taken a beating in recent weeks, is still ranked 11th in the NFL in terms of yards per game.

One stat that makes me hopeful is big plays.  The Giants offense ranks 1st in the league in passing plays of 20+ yards with 32 of them.  This is an offense that forces you to put 8 men in the box, and then beats you deep on the play-action pass.  If the Chargers can manage to stop the run, I have no doubt that they can also stop the big play.  The Bolts' D ranks 4th in the league in the number of 20+ yard passing plays given up, with 14 (which includes the blown plays with Louis Murphy and Kelley Washington), and has been effective at holding opposing offenses to small gains through the air.

The Chargers' defense has been slowly creeping up the ranks in the last couple of weeks, playing against weaker offensive teams.  They're now ranked 12th in yards allowed per game and 21st in points allowed.  Their 28th ranked 3rd down percentage is probably the most damning stat against Ron Rivera and his troops.  The Chargers' pass defense, unsurprisingly, played well against the Oakland Raiders and is now ranked 6th in terms of passing yards allowed.  The 27th ranked run defense remains a problem, giving up 4.2 yards per carry and 132.1 yards per game on the ground.  That will need to get better if the Chargers want to get the Giants' offense off the field.

When you look at FO's stats, the Giants offense looks a lot less intimidating.  With the 15th best offense, 14th best passing offense and 14th best running offense....they're about as average as average gets.  FO's defensive stats tell roughly the same picture as the classic stats for the Chargers' defense.  Ranked 23rd overall, 14th against the pass and 29th against the run.

Advantage: Giants  It's not difficult to guess NY's gameplan.  They are going to try to run Brandon Jacobs and Ahmad Bradshaw down the Chargers' throat, the same way the Raiders' did with their RBs and the Steelers did with Rashard Mendenhall.  Chargers fans are fearful that these RBs won't be stopped, but Giants fans are convinced that Big Blue won't be able to take advantage of the weakness along the defensive line.  Seeing as how I'm a Chargers fan, I'm crossing my fingers and expecting the worst for this game.

 

When the Chargers Have the Ball

Let's start with the fancy stats.  The rushing offense has been so poor that it's dragged the rest of the offense with it.  The Chargers are ranked a pedestrian 15th overall, 26th in rushing and 9th in passing.  That's just about right when you look at the classic stats, where the Bolts rank 12th in offensive yardage and 10th in points per game. 

Philip Rivers and his "angels" are ranked 4th in passing yardage, but part of that is because they have had to carry the offense.  Surprisingly, though, the Chargers are ranked 13th in terms of attempted passes this season.  The run-first Giants are ranked 4th. 

The Chargers rushing attack seems to be going backwards.  They're now ranked 31st in yards per game and are dead last in the league with their 3.1 yards per carry average.  Dead last!  Worse than the Chiefs, Lions, Browns and any other horribly bad NFL team you want to name.  The only team with less runs of 20+ yards than the Chargers' 2 is the Arizona Cardinals, who have zero.  The one shining spot in the running game is that no Chargers RB has fumbled the ball on a run yet this season (remember, LT's fumble was on a shovel pass).  So that's good.

First, the classic stats of the Giants once-ballyhooed defense.  3rd in the league in yards allowed per game and a surprising 22nd in point allowed per game.  Is that not shocking to anybody else?  Their offense, statistically, hasn't been that bad.  How the heck is the defense giving up so many points per game and so little yardage.  I suspect the reason is that the Giants have been unable to stop big returns, but I can't find the stats to back up that theory.  Little help?

The Giants' passing defense ranks 3rd in passing yards allowed, but is tied with Kansas City for 20th in terms of 20+ yard passing plays allowed (22).  That certain bodes well for Rivers and Vincent Jackson.  The Giants' rush defense seems equally as disappointing as the Bolts'.  They're ranked 19th in rushing yards allowed per game and an astonishingly low 27th in yards per carry against their defense (4.6), which is significantly worse than the Chargers (14th).  That bodes well for LaDanian Tomlinson and Darren Sproles.

Advantage: Chargers  These teams are very similar.  Both have trouble stopping the run.  Both have offenses built around big plays in the passing game.  Both are extremely beat up.  The Giants get a little edge because they're at home and heading into a bye.  However, when the Chargers are on the field I believe they have the advantage because of Philip Rivers.  Going against a weak passing defense, he should be able to put up points as long as the offensive line can keep him clean.  I believe they will.

 

So what's my overall prediction?  Not a blowout, but a shootout.  I think Sproles makes a few big plays and I think Brandon Jacobs will have his best game of the season.  I can easily see this game coming down to whoever plays best in the last 5 minutes of the fourth quarter, and those situations are impossible to predict.  Let's hope, for the sake of me, Clip Show, and all of the other Chargers fans that are making the trek to Giants Stadium, that Philip Rivers works his magic and our playoff hopes are alive come Monday morning.

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The teams are similar, but the Giants are better.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Nov 6, 2009 1:27 PM PST reply actions  

DVOA has the Giants winning 69% of the time. AccuScore has them winning 51% of the time. From AccuScore:

The Giants pass defense has been obliterated the past 3 weeks vs the Saints, Cardinals and Eagles. They play another Top notch passing offense in San Diego. If the Giants cannot pressure Philip Rivers and he is sacked two times or less then the Chargers are actually the 61 percent favorite with Rivers going for at least 2 TDs and 250+ yards. If the Giants sack Rivers 4 or more times the Giants are the heavy 67 percent favorites. The Giants need Eli Manning to eliminate turnovers. If Manning throws no INTs the Giants go from winning just 51 percent to nearly 66 percent.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Nov 6, 2009 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

That’s about right.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Nov 6, 2009 5:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually worry about Rivers and the Chargers offense

If they take a quarter off, be it from crowd noise, some key injuries, an important turnover or fumble or just an inaccurate quarter they could be in real trouble staying with the Giants. Kind of similar to the last couple meetings with Pittsburgh.

Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.

by Wonko on Nov 6, 2009 1:50 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

agree with both

Big kid tested, mother fucker approved

by CurbEnthusiasm on Nov 6, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

funny thing....

is only time they are pedal to the metal is when they are way behind. I just don’t know why they can’t play with that urgency in all situations and all qtrs.

by slimsocal678 on Nov 6, 2009 2:35 PM PST reply actions  

I don't really care if they play with urgency

Just that they play well.

Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.

by Wonko on Nov 6, 2009 3:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Wrong

Their first halves against the Broncos, Raiders and Chiefs were better than the second half.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Nov 6, 2009 5:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone know why the game is at 1:00 PT for a east coast game?

Is this something that the Giants always do?

Most football teams are temperamental.That's 90% temper and 10% mental.

by sdpads24 on Nov 6, 2009 3:52 PM PST reply actions  

There's morning and afternoon games.

Sometimes they get morning ones, sometimes they get late ones.

We're boned.

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 6, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually

The NFL is specifically trying to do the west coast teams a favor this year and start the games at the later start time. That being said, the NFC East teams have historically had their games bumped to the 4 ET/1 PT slots due to the popularity of the teamsand the 4 PM timeslot being a better one for viewing (see: Minnesota v Green Bay last week as an example of a high profile game getting bumped and Atlanta v Dallas the week before as an example of a random NFC East game getting bumped), so there was always a chance that this game could be a late start.

Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.

by Wonko on Nov 6, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Seattle

has had two 1pmET games in the Central time zone already, and has 3 more scheduled.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 6, 2009 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops... 4 more scheduled

Assuming you count St. Louis. I didn’t, but really it’s five 11am CST games and one 12pm CST game (@ Indy).

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 6, 2009 5:26 PM PST up reply actions  

The game is starting at 4ET already.

"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock

by John Gennaro on Nov 6, 2009 5:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought of about 100 condescending annoying things to say

But, I’ll go with a classic and say, No Shit Sherlock.

Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.

by Wonko on Nov 6, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Meh, trite

‘This makes me want to vomit’ is still my favorite thus far…

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 7, 2009 8:45 AM PST up reply actions  

See now

from what I recall happened at the off-season owners’ meetings, the exact opposite occurred. They consciously tried to get relief for EAST coast teams traveling west. Fisher, chair of the competition committee, specifically said they looked into the matter of west coast teams traveling east, concluded that there was problem with it, and they weren’t going to go out of their way to help them.

Here’s the article about them making it easier for east coast teams.

Here’s a quote from Goodell saying that they didn’t think west coast teams traveling east was an issue.

We're boned.

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 6, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay

But I’ve heard the Chargers mention multiple times about how they’ve improved the schedule for traveling east. And I’m pretty sure I heard at least one of the pregame shows talking about how they schedule the games to accommodate west coast team.

If not, well then it goes back to the other part of what I was saying. We happen to play two of our non-primetime eastern games against NFC East teams who tend to get their games scheduled for the 4 ET slots. However, someone else will have to explain why our Browns game is also scheduled for 4 ET because as far as I know there is no additional audience for that game.

Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.

by Wonko on Nov 6, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember being outraged

when the NFL decided to try and make things easier for east coast teams and just dismissed west coast teams’ concerns.

We're boned.

by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 7, 2009 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Was this a typographical error, or an actual scheduling error?
Teams that have road games against Denver and Oakland will get home games against Kansas City and San Diego.

The Giants have had a road game against KC and are scheduled for an away game at Denver. Thus, they are playing at home against Oakland and SD! Should that statement be readjusted…?

Teams that have road games against Denver and or Oakland will get home games against Kansas City and or San Diego.

I just thought it was odd with the wording. Anyways, the overall scheduling from west coast to east coast probably has more to do with ratings than anything else. The NFL didn’t do the Giants any favors actually. With three straight road games at Dallas, TB and KC, then home for Oakland, only to be back on the road at Philly, this seems a bit extreme in the sense of travelling!

Even though the west coast teams sometimes kickoff at 10amPT, i dread the primetime 8:30pm-9ET kickoff times. Whether or not my team is playing, it’s the idea of staying up until midnight for the duration, or lack of, because of the time. Be fortunate that your able to see the games in their entirety! :)

by Hootman on Nov 7, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny reading the posts

The topic that gets the most reaction is when the game starts and not the game itself …hmmmmm

by Hank44 on Nov 7, 2009 5:57 AM PST reply actions  

Our QB is a leader

Theirs is an impostor.

Our D needs to step up & prove that to the hometown fans in a convincing manner.

We get third down stops & give our offense the ball, win the field position/ST battle, & make smart adjustments during the game …. victory is ours.

She-li is an early interception/sack away from melting down.

If the thunder don't get ya then the lightning will!!

Robert Hunter

by Buck Melanoma on Nov 7, 2009 8:08 AM PST reply actions  

Well ... for an imposter

He’s done a very good job of disguising himself as the winning quarterback in a Super Bowl. Whatever else you may think … he has a ring!

by Hank44 on Nov 7, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

So does Trent Dilfer

Mountain West Connection ::Above the Rest::
Bolts From The Blue "There’s a gleam men. Let’s go get the gleam! Focus and Finish!!! One play at a time!!! Let's Go!!!"
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 7, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

And

Doug Williams

When all else fails....

run Iso!

by pacstud on Nov 8, 2009 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

And if the Giants had a good quarterback that game wouldn’t have been close.

Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken

by Richard Wade on Nov 7, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions  

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