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Jeromey Clary Out for the Season

The Chargers placed Jeromey Clary on injured reserve, meaning he has played his last game this season.  The Chargers have signed Clary's ankle was injured in the second half as he had to be carted off the field.  Jeromey Clary has been the target of considerable criticism since taking over the right tackle position.  This season he had struggled early on, but was playing much better currently.  How much his loss will affect the Chargers remains to be seen.

In his college career Clary blocked for Darren Sproles at Kansas State, helping Sproles to achieve the rushing title.  Clary came in to replace Shane Olivea who had a back injury back in 2007 and was apparently struggling with off-field issues.  The Chargers running game immediately picked up as the rushed for 880 yards and eight rushing touchdowns over the course of the final five games.

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The 2008 season was less stellar for Clary as Ladanian Tomlinson struggled with injuries.  Many felt the Chargers ought to have targeted a tackle in the draft, but General Manager AJ Smith obviously felt good enough with Clary at right tackle.  He had a tendency to struggle with premier pass rushers, coupled with a deterioration in the running game the 2008 draft again came with speculation about Chargers going for a tackle in the draft.  Instead Mike Goff was replaced, the Chargers drafting Gaurd Louis Vasquez to replace Goff.

This largely confirmed the analysis of Clary eight months ago here.  In the 2008 campaign Clary had been tagged with seven allowed sacks, five false starts and one holding penalty.  This season he had already given up 5.5 sacks, but primarily early on in the season.  The last few weeks the line play had seemed greatly improved, both in the running game and in the protection for Rivers.  In the first match up against the Broncos, Rivers was routinely mauled by a fierce Bronco pass rush.  In the rematch in Denver last week the line held the pocket and Rivers was able to pick apart the Bronco secondary.

With Clary's ankle injury, the Chargers quickly got back to Runyan, who had refused to sign with the Chargers earlier in the season.  It is unlikely he will start this Sunday against the Chiefs, but the expectation is that he will eventually take that starting role from Brandyn Dombrowski once he is familiar with the Chargers blocking scheme.  Dombrowski did start two games for the injured Vasquez at gaurd earlier this season; this would be his first start at tackle.  Clearly the Chargers are not willing to trust him with the position for the rest of the season and so renewed negotiations with Runyan.

Reports are that Chargers GM, AJ Smith had tried to sign Runyan in the pre-season, but perhaps he was looking for a starting position.  Runyan started for the Eagles from 2000-2008 and was widely regarded as a premier offensive lineman, he was a Pro-Bowler in 2002.  He rehabbed a microfracture during this off-season, but didn't find any suitable offers earlier in the year.  The Chargers are very fortunate to find him available mid-season.  Runyan has a style of play reputed to be like Dielman's, he is a nasty blocker and goes to the very end of the whistle.  Back in 2007 Merriman was asked who the nastiest Tackle in the NFL was and he replied "John Runyan on Philly.   He'll curse, spit, scratch, bite, anything.  He's a nasty dude." 

Runyan has political aspirations however, and has vowed that this will be his final NFL campaign.  This is going to leave a question mark at right tackle for next season.  The Chargers could continue on with Clary, but given his injuries and uneven play, they could also consider looking at the draft or free agency to upgrade the position.  If there is no CBA free agent tackles could be thin.  Tackles have been going very early in the drafts of late, and that looks to be a continuing trend.  Russell Okung, Trent Williams, Charles Brown and Jason Fox could all be targets, but you have to wonder if the Chargers will use their top draft pick for the offense when the defense has been the more troubled unit.

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How should the Chargers address the right tackle position after this season?
Clary is good enough for now.
74 votes
We need to draft one, Rivers must be protected.
178 votes
Open up that wallet, let's get a free agent.
150 votes

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I think that we should draft a tackle

but not necessarily early. Clary is good enough that he can hold down that spot while a younger player can develop.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 25, 2009 9:27 AM PST reply actions  

Isn't Dombrowski already that young player?

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by Wonko on Nov 25, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Possibly.

Like I said below, we should find out more as the season progresses.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 25, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Clary is fine

I think that Clary has been our most consistent and best playing lineman. Now, I know I may take flak for this statement, but he has made significant strides since last season, and is actually helping rookie guard Vasquez develop into a solid player.

by mastaobass on Nov 25, 2009 9:28 AM PST reply actions  

may I suggest...

Tony Washington,or maybe Sam Young from Notre Dame,or that guy from Oklahoma State Okung.We could bring one of those guys in and hopefully find a franchise player huh.

by Gorditoe1 on Nov 25, 2009 9:40 AM PST reply actions  

One note

If Clary went to Kansas, he didn’t help block for Sproles. Sproles went to Kansas State.

by Dude52089 on Nov 25, 2009 9:43 AM PST reply actions  

Noted

Both went to State.

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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 25, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Just for background

Dombrowski was a 3 year starter at SDSU that was interrupted by injuries a few times. He started at RT and then was considered the best lineman and was moved to LT for the rest of his college career.

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 25, 2009 10:04 AM PST reply actions  

We'll get a chance to see how he develops as the season continues.

The team seems to like his potential. He could be a good lineman.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 25, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh. Also he's known for being a great pass blocker but weak in run blocking.

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 25, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Thats 7 on IR

counting Bryd. I can’t remember the last time we had this many people injured by week 12. Unbelievable.

Clary is OK. He sucked those first few weeks but he wasn’t the only one. He has gotten better and the whole line as well.

I think the Chargers currently have all of their draft picks this year so a tackle in rounds 2-4 would be good.

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by L Magico on Nov 25, 2009 10:37 AM PST reply actions  

No 5th rounder, but otherwise I agree.

Travis Johnson is our 5th-rounder. But yeah, your point is good: get an OT by the 4th. I’d like to see SD use its 32nd overall pick (fingers crossed) on Ciron Black.

by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 25, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of the Draft

I think we should look for a RT tackle ~ Round 3. Jeromy Clary may not hold the job, and a young tackle with lots of potential can at least serve the Dombrowski role backing up Clary and McNeil. Then again with Dombrowski getting quality playing time, he may prove to lock down the backup spot. As of today, my draft priorities are:
1-DT/NT
2-RB
3-RT
4-DE
5-Traded to Houston
6-CB
7-SS

by SJO on Nov 25, 2009 11:43 AM PST reply actions  

BPA, all the way

Also, I’m not sure it’s realistic to expect to find a RT that has future starting potential in the 3rd round. Same goes for DE in the 4th. Those type of players are either high draft picks or 7th round/UDFA sleeper types. The guys drafted in between are usually the ones that personnel guys know are future backups.

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by Wonko on Nov 25, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

We need to replace Whitehurst

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by Wonko on Nov 25, 2009 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus

Given where we expect to draft and how QBs are constantly overdrafted it is highly unlikely that the BPA will be a QB. I think when Peyton Manning was drafted was the last time the BPA was a QB.

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by Wonko on Nov 25, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

One more

If the QB truly is the BPA, then you should hit the eject button on that pick and trade immediately. Somebody needs a QB.

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by Wonko on Nov 25, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

funny thing about Whitehurst

Is that he is one of a bunch of guys who could be FAs this off-season, or might be restricted FAs if the CBA status doesn’t change. A lot of what we might want to do in the draft or Free Agency will depend a lot on what happens with the CBA. If the CBA gets redone, then McNeil is a free agent (assuming no contract extension between now and then) and we’ll have bigger issues than who is our RT. Other guys in this boat are Merriman, VJ, Floyd, and I think even Sproles (although I think due to his Franchise Player salary he will effectively be a FA no matter what the happens with the CBA)

I’ve been purposely not thinking about the off-season because there is so much uncertainty right now. Plus, I like to stay focused on the current season until it’s actually over.

by Stephen (shaynes41) on Nov 25, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I think our top pick should have "Reserved-- Toby Gerhart" on a little card on it.

I love this team, but the thought of Sproles and Hester platooning for any length of time at RB in the future scares me. I also think Vaughn Martin can be that successor to Jamal. Here’s my line of thinking.

Generously listing us as having the 26th overall pick.

1. Gerhart, RB, Stanford. I’m a huge homer, but he’s fast, he’s physical, he put up otherworldly high school stats (then again, so did Marcus Dupree), and he’s from Riverside County. No downside!

2. Kyle Calloway, T, Iowa. The dude is huge (6’7", 315) which makes him a nice bookend to Big Mac at LT. He moves well laterally and has good upper body strength, but there’s a little “character issues” red flag in the form of a DUI.

3. Jermaine Cunningham, DE, Florida. A bit undersized, but he’s quick. A rush end in the mold of Dwight Freeney.

4. Pat Angerer, MLB, Iowa. BPA. You might think we’re set at inside ’backer, but Angerer is a bit rangier and better in coverage than Coop or Burnett. He also plays with a wonderful nasty streak.

No 5th-rounder.

6. Chris Hawkins, CB, LSU. Depth corner who will probably end up competing with Brandon Hughes for a spot. Slim pickings in this position anyways.

7. Aaron Webster, SS, Cincinnati. He’s got good size and decent speed— just the kind of sleeper pick who might stick.

Priority UDFA— LeGarrette Blount, RB, Oregon. People are still going to be wary thanks to that suckerpunch, and the emergence of LaMichael James in Eugene is limiting his carries, so he could fall this far.

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by StrangeBroP25 on Nov 25, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Gerhart would be a horrible fit for our offense

I think he’d be a horrible fit for any NFL offense, but he’s definitely not a guy that would fit ours. And he’ll be there for a few rounds after the first. Scouts, Inc has him as the 8th best RB available and carrying a 3rd-4th round grade.
Calloway is the 10th best tackle with a slightly higher grade than Gerhart.
Cunninghan is the 8th best DE with a high 2nd round grade.
Angerer is the 11th best ILB with a 6th-7th round grade
Hawkins is the 20th best CB with a 7th-UDFA grade.
Webster is way too far down for me to count and carries a UDFA grade.

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by Wonko on Nov 27, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

My bad, I was using CBS Sports' grades.

I don’t know what criteria they used, but they made sense to place the picks where I did.

Also, I think the only back worth taking that high is CJ Spiller or possibly Georgia Tech’s Jonathan Dwyer (who has spent his college career running the triple option and therefore would not be the best option, either). They’re not likely to fall to us.

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Ali Villanueva (OT/WR, Army) has 460 yards and 5 TDs in only 7 games with a mediocre quarterback. Just sayin'...

by StrangeBroP25 on Nov 27, 2009 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

My first 2 choices for the draft?

ILB & DL – probably DT unless there’s a stud DE available. We need attitude in the middle of the LB unit. Maybe it’s there with Dobbins or Siler, but I know that I’d give my right one for Spikes or McClain.

As for RT – yeah, it would be nice to pick up another good prospect, but there’s also Dombrowski, Corey Clark, & now Gerald Cadogan to take a good look at. I’d draft one, but probably not until the 2nd day. I go back & forth on it, but I just see too much need on defense to spend a 1st day pick on anything else – and definitely not bling. The ONLY way that I’d go RT or RB on day one is if we somehow pick up another 1st or 2nd, which I doubt.

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by Buck Melanoma on Nov 25, 2009 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

Definitely agree on Spikes and McClain

I don’t see it happening though, they will both potentially be gone by then.

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by Wonko on Nov 25, 2009 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

As for RB

I still think that you basically have to be aware of what kind of running backs are available at each pick. If there’s a running back that fits the Chargers system and is capable of starting immediately, then you pick that guy no matter what round it is.

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by Wonko on Nov 25, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Some years you may be correct

I just think that this year we still have too many holes to fill in our front 7.

Jamal may not come back. Even if he does, how much more does the big guy have?
Castillo is playing well this year, but he always seems to be injured.
Travis Johnson may turn out to be a real steal, but so far he’s been hurt quite a bit. Scott isn’t a long-term solution.
Cesaire is a good player but much better in a rotation. Hopefully Bingham can help there when he returns.
Oggie is getting better, but is he really 1st string material?
Martin is a work in progress. I have very high hopes for him – would really like to see him develop into our next NT.
Cooper is “Donnie-lite” – all the dragging without the pass coverage skills. Burnett? Not sold on him as a FT, starting, 3-down backer.
I like what both Dobbins & Siler bring with their physical game, but not sure that they have what we really need in the middle.

I want a fire-breathing, slobber-knocking, intelligent leader in the middle. IT would change the entire demeanor of this D.

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by Buck Melanoma on Nov 25, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Unfortunately

This draft is likely not going to be the one to replace those players just based off of what I’m looking at for the players available. That is, unless we can somehow move into the top 3 (for DT) or top 20 (for ILB). The draft is top heavy with starting talent at those positions and then after that the remaining guys look like ones that will just be a part of a rotation and I’d like to get more of an impact out of our top picks than that (NO MORE Englishes, Davises or Casons! We need starters!)

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by Wonko on Nov 25, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

We still may be able to get some picks out of Merriman

and could use those to move up.

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by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 25, 2009 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

If that's the case

Then this would be a good draft to get an OLB.

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by Wonko on Nov 25, 2009 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

He's not as good as the guys in this draft

Plus, I think we need 3 to make our defense work. Also, Phillips won’t last forever.

Not that it matters. You can’t start projecting moves by the Chargers without thinking like A.J. He doesn’t trade players like that. He wants to squeeze out every last year out of them while he are still in our championship window. He doesn’t want to sacrifice the present for the future. Every time he’s had an opportunity to cash a guy in for picks, he’s passed. I don’t see why this would be any different.

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by Wonko on Nov 25, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

The only difference I see would be if he's cashing in picks for an RFA

If the offering team gives a salary the Chargers can’t/won’t match, he’ll take those picks in a heartbeat.

by SJO on Nov 25, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Burnett has been better than Cooper this year.

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by Richard Wade on Nov 25, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

And more importantly

I think A.J. is sold on him as a starting ILB.

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by Wonko on Nov 25, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

And why not? He’s our best coverage linebacker. He rushes the passer well. He seems to read the play faster than most of the defense, too.

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by Richard Wade on Nov 25, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

You're likely right, Wonko

Especially since we’ll have the 32nd pick!

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by Buck Melanoma on Nov 25, 2009 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

That's why I like Pat Angerer.

"Wipe that golden tear from your mother dear, and raise what's left of the flag for me."-- Flogging Molly, "What's Left Of The Flag"

Ali Villanueva (OT/WR, Army) has 460 yards and 5 TDs in only 7 games with a mediocre quarterback. Just sayin'...

by StrangeBroP25 on Nov 25, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Does anyone not think Dline should be our #1 priority in the draft?

by AirNorval on Nov 25, 2009 1:58 PM PST reply actions  

Front 7 is the priority. Either a linebacker or a defensive lineman depending on who the BPA is.

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by Richard Wade on Nov 25, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

This ^^^

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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 25, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I think both lines are the priority

Clearly the defensive line has to be a priority with all of the injuries and the struggles of the run defense, especially early in the season. But I think the offensive line has to be a priority as well, given the struggles to run the football and breakdowns in pass protection.

I think in the first 3 rounds, you need to devote at least 2 picks to the lines, one for each side of the ball if possible. I hesitate to say one is a priority over the other, because if there is a run on d linemen, you don’t want to reach and take a less talented player if there is a talented offensive lineman available. The reverse is also true.

One of the reasons I say you need to take an offensive lineman in the first three rounds is to create some competition at some of these positions. If you draft a lineman and he beats out one of the vets, then the new lineman is by definition better. Even if he doesn’t win a starting job on day one, hopefully he will have pushed someone in the existing group to get better, and that is a win too.

We often talk about drafting someone to replace Clary. Maybe so. But maybe someone comes in and takes the right tackle job and Clary competes with Vasquez for the guard spot. Maybe someone comes in and is an understudy at left tackle, and in a year or two McNeil flips to right tackle if the new player is the better player down the line.

I think it is all about creating competition and having more options. Unfortunately, right now too much of our depth is composed of players who have spent significant time on the practice squad. Maybe they step up, maybe not, but I would also point out there is a reason they have been on the practice squad and not the active roster. We need more talent along both lines to raise the level of play.

by DCB on Nov 25, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions  

We have the 4th best offense in football (by Weighted DVOA) and the 11th worst defense. I don’t think there’s a compelling argument that we should be making any offensive position a priority over our defensive front seven.

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by Richard Wade on Nov 25, 2009 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Too bad we can't move up enough to get Suh

the all-world DT from Nebraska. He is flat out dominant and plays like he’s posessed on every play. He goes until he drops. This guy can and has taken over games by himself this year. He will probably be a top10 pick though. I think we would be a great DE with Cesaire rotating on both sides. Let Travis Johnson and Martin fill in for J-Will next year. DL has to be a priority. Then RB in the second, maybe Jahvid Best if still available. LT won’t be here forever. RT in the 3rd round, but no sooner. Unless a top guy drops on draft day. Nobody will know how it will shake out until the new CBA is negotiated.

by glamisdave on Nov 25, 2009 10:50 PM PST reply actions  

I still say

The amount of RTs drafted in the 3rd round that end up being able to start is few and far between. If you aren’t getting 1st or 2nd round talent at that position, you might as well wait to find a sleeper pick in the late rounds.

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by Wonko on Nov 27, 2009 6:34 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

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