Chris Chambers Released By San Diego Chargers
by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 12:33 PM PST
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I understand his play has been poor, but after making arguably the best play of the game Chris Chambers is out on the streets.
Chris Chamber was the catalyst for the 2007 Chargers' run to the playoffs. His production has declined since then, but he's always been fairly reliable in clutch situations and in playoff games. Against the Raiders, Malcom Floyd took his spot as the starting WR opposite Vincent Jackson.
This makes Legedu Naanee, who has disappeared since having a good start to the season, the Bolts' new slot receiver.
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Back to speculating about replacement ILBs
Zach Thomas is familiar with Wade Phillips’ D, but I’m not sure how much that counts for at this point.
What’s Derek Smith doing these days? Matt Wilhem?
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 12:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
matt is with 49ers
derek smith sucks
by cameronm on Nov 2, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I believe Wilhelm is with San Francisco. Hopefully Derek Smith is retired.
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For the record
I think Zach Thomas is about as good as Wilhelm and Smith.
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d rather have Thomas than Wilhelm or Smith, though.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Although, Wilhelm obviously doesn’t need to be mentioned anymore since he’s a 9er.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
zach
wouldnt wanna play special teams, and is old. i would rather see beckwith who actually has future potential
by cameronm on Nov 2, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have to imagine it’ll be Beckwith since he’s on the PS.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
But A.J. throws out a couple change-ups now and again. So far though Acee’s tweets haven’t mentioned Beckwith by name (even as a candidate) so it makes me wonder.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt he’d bring in a Zach Thomas since we need help on ST. Who else is out there?
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Random names
Carlos Polk?
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I liked Polk
But isn’t he like 103 years old now?
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 2, 2009 1:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
32 years old
he played both OLB and ILB with the Chargers, I believe. I’d take him if he’s a leader on defense.
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Charly Martin can play ILB, right?
He’ll get monster numbers, I’m sure.
by Nohm on Nov 2, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
More from Acee
The primary reason for CC axe was Floyd’s emergence. Defensively and in the kicking need to get help. Will add a LB in the next few days—ka
Beckwith makes the most sense, because I believe he has a reputation as a special teams stud.
Also, Dobbins is out for a few weeks. That means Siler probably gets the start alongside Cooper against the Giants. Yikes.
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 12:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Unless Burnett is healthy again.
He’s been out a couple weeks now, he should be getting there.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True
(fingers crossed)
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You still need depth
Siler is not a viable option. If you thought covering the TEs was bad before…
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dobbins out
Basically they were comfortable enough with Legadude and Kassim as #3 and #4 WRs and needed the depth at LB
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
KO above Buster?
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's what KA's tweets implied
Kassim Osgood will get work at receiver now, Norv says. And Buster too, maybe — ka
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think this is partly a function of roster construction
They would have to plan on Davis being active for most games in order to benefit from him getting additional reps. Since Osgood is on ST, he is always active and it’s just the #4 WR spot, we don’t use it that much.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Plus PR17 is confortable with him and Kassim already knows the offense like the back of his hand
Rivers says Kassim Osgood is very capable of filling in at WR and knows the offense as well as anybody
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And why shouldn't KO go ahead of Buster?
KO is actually playing instead of laying on a table someplace. Get up Buster!
by Trendsearcher on Nov 2, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If you replace partly with entirely I’d be inclined to agree.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
holy crap
i didnt see that coming at all.
i bet he joins the raiders or ravens.
Bet of luck Chris, you were always a class act and helped improve vincent a lot.
by cameronm on Nov 2, 2009 12:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I could see him going to the Ravens. Cam’s offense isn’t too different from Norv’s.
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The guy knows like 7 different offenses
from his days in Miami. He could go anywhere. The Baltimore offense seems to be moving pretty good, and I don’t think he’s better than their top 3 guys there (Mason, Clayton, Washington).
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the titans could use him as well,
they have nothing
by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Nov 2, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WHOAWHOAWHOA
Do you guys not remember me asking everybody this on the game thread yesterday? I said, and I quote:
“Why do we still have Chambers? The ball goes to Gates Jackson and Floyd 98% of the time.”
And JOHN told me “Because cutting him would accomplish nothing.”
I saw it coming the whole time.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 12:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I really didn’t think they’d cut him, and pay him his whole salary, just to get an open roster spot. I thought he was worth something as a 3rd or 4th WR. Guess I was wrong.
You called it.
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not trying to brag or anything.
But i LOVED Chambers. You know, all those important playoff catches for first downs. But I’ve seen games this year where he didn’t even get THROWN to. When you think of CC, you think of a guy with amazing hands, and they weren’t utilizing him nearly enough.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He was thrown to plenty. Some games he was thrown to more than anyone else (including VJ and Gates). He just never caught the ball.
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well I guess that would be a good enough reason right there then.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 12:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wrong
They were utilizing him waaay too much. They’ve thrown at him over 30 times this year and he only caught 9 passes. By DVOA he was the 3rd worst WR in football this year, ahead of only Heyward-Bey and Chansi Stuckey. He was not helping us.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 12:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Amongst qualifying wide receivers, Chambers’s -84 DYAR and -49.6% DVOA ranked 79th and 80th out of 82, respectively, and he’d caught only eight of the 30 passes (27 percent) on which he was the intended receiver.
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
there ya go.
Those numbers are only through week 7. I was trying to estimate where he’d be at after week 8. I know he has 9 catches now.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
one extra catch isn't gonna make his performance this season look any better
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 1:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a really good one
But, I think that was basically my point. I was trying to give him a little extra credit while also pointing out how bad he was.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He also
has four drops on the season; and was going to be gone next year anyway.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 2, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To me
drops aren’t that much worse than not be able to get open and making your QB throw the ball away. But, obviously, they aren’t a positive either.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To me
They are like unforced errors in tennis; they have to be taken in context, but it’s a bad sign.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 2, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So he is owed like 4.5 million this year?
just kinda threw away 3 million for a roster spot yeesh.
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by soulSD on Nov 2, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In economics
They call that a sunk cost. It is not considered an additional loss since there was never a way to get value of it anyway. So “threw away” is probably not the best choice of words.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 12:49 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Green?
This blog has devolved into UT like, uncerebral blabber
by soulSD on Nov 2, 2009 6:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That happens when a comment receives three or more recs.
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I think he was wondering why thatr particular comment
deserved green status.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I figured, but you never can give people too little credit.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Dobbins Injury
Is the catalyst here. When I saw his leg snap around I thought he was done for the year. But Chambers had one grab in two games and that simply does not cut it.
Props to Brandon Siler for picking up Dobbins after he went out. You could tell that was the kinda of thing Siler said to Dobbins before they carted him off “I got your back, buddy”. Siler was a wrecking ball in the 2nd half.
by riversformvp on Nov 2, 2009 12:41 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I agree.
I only watched the drive charts online, but I saw Silers name coming up as a tackler plentyyy of times.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not to mention
he rocker zach miller.
he is good against the run but even more a liability then dobbins against the pass
by cameronm on Nov 2, 2009 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yep
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow shockin news...
Cant argue about it much but Chambers done so much for us and I wish him luck…
hmmm how about Derrick Brooks?
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by ChargersWitch on Nov 2, 2009 12:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
The Bears were a better fit for him
And he didn’t end up there. I don’t see it as even a remote possibility.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i doubt it
brooks doesnt play special teams and has been in a cover 2 defense his entire career.
i dont think he make much sense
by cameronm on Nov 2, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah...
but he’s a good cover LB and thats what we’ve been lacking cuz we cant cover any TightEnds.
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by ChargersWitch on Nov 2, 2009 1:01 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
he used to be…
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 1:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
At the end
I think they would take him out on 3rd down. He was definitely not an every snap player and I remember seeing a quote where he said he thought that coming out at times really helped his game.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
eh I suppose
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by ChargersWitch on Nov 2, 2009 1:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
He’s not a 3-4 LB
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
;)
Aren’t all linebackers the same?
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ha
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by ChargersWitch on Nov 2, 2009 1:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I know the perfect solution to that problem!
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Which is?
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by ChargersWitch on Nov 2, 2009 1:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Isn't it obvious?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sorry learning process here!!!!
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by ChargersWitch on Nov 2, 2009 2:04 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Switching to the 43.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a running joke here. You might have missed it because it’s not particularly funny.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't understand why we haven't done that.
It would clearly solve every possible problem.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hahah I was gonna say that
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by ChargersWitch on Nov 2, 2009 2:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Funny
After the Steelers game, everyone wanted major shake-ups on the team. Since then the Bolts have cut a starting WR, the starting SS, moved a rookie to starting SS and benched the young nickel CB (replacing him with the backup SS). How’s that for a shake-up?
Every time the team makes a big move like this and it appears to work (like with Ellison and Gregory), it gets the other players on the team fired up. It gives them the feeling that the team will do whatever it takes to win.
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 1:11 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Definitely
This is a gutsy move in a season where a gutsy move or too seems necessary. I definitely think that (even moreso than the Hart release) this is addition by subtraction and it gives Chambers a chance to find a home on a team in need of WR depth.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
And it also seems like these shake-ups have improved our team overall. for instance, if everyone was healthy on the team, including JW and Hardwick, and those additional personell changes had been made, I think we’d be an amazing team right now.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely
the players need to have faith in the organization as well as eachother…when you see that your coaches will try anything to put you in a winning situation you play harder and with more confidence…i’m really interested to see who they bring in
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by notorioushbi on Nov 3, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm we essentially traded Chambers for a franchise QB
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 1:14 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Chad Henne is a franchise QB?
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Shhhh
Dolphin fans love Chad Henne
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
just like you guys love an underperformer
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who?
Noodle arm’s backup down in Florida? That guy who played for Michigan?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wow such bile being spewed my way just because I have faith in the kid
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup
he’s a starter now and has proven to be a fairly efficient game manager.
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Slightly above average starter
with an incredible running game and a decent D backing him up. He’s doing what he needs to do. I just wouldn’t call him a franchise QB.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
point being is that It looks like we got the better end of the trade
a promising young QB or the definition of mediocrity at WR?
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Your kind of making a straw man argument there
You’re forgetting that Chambers has had a couple years playing with the Chargers while Henne only has a few games. The Chargers were a playoff team in need of depth at WR back when they made the trade. There’s always a chance that you’re trading away the future to help the present when you make a deal like that and it’s not like no one knew that going in. Plus, the Chargers wouldn’t have taken Henne anyway, so there’s some real fuzzy logic with that analysis of the trade.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
well of course you wouldnt take Henne
who knows who you guys would have taken, you do have to ask yourselves: Was he worth a second rounder?
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He was a huge part of the team in 2007. I think there’s little doubt he was worth it.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
VJ
Never got on track until Chambers got here. I’m ok with dropping Chambers now, but we had no passing attack when he was picked up and just took off in the second half of the season. Part of that was the development of Rivers, but in part having Chambers draw the top coverage allowed VJ to flourish. Totally worth a second rounder in my mind.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 2, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
i agree with this
i remember liking the chambers trade. VJ was still growing as a receiver and we were fairly weak at WR.
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by tonik on Nov 2, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 8:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he was worth a second rounder.
Chambers gave us a season and a half at veteran pro level; some would argue that 2007 was the best year of his career. If a team drafted two second-rounders and one of them got three productive starting seasons, that’s not bad.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 3, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think both teams made out fine.
If the Dolphins are happy with Henne, then great.
The Chargers got from Chambers exactly what they needed—a reliable (in 2007) veteran who would take pressure off the other guys and help them get better. That’s what he was, and what he did. Chambers was a HUGE part of why the Chargers got going in 2007 and finished that season so strong, and I think a 2nd round pick is worth that.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
It aint like he was a Bust...
Chambers has done a lot for us… Yah u might of gotten a future w/ a QB wouldnt call it potential franchise just yet (perhaps after this season) but we got someone who instantly helped us out… No offense im sure Henne will get there…
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by ChargersWitch on Nov 2, 2009 1:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
But how does he run the "wild wolverine"?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't need to
The Dolphins aren’t dumb enough to leave their QB on the field when they direct snap to the RB.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Like Norv?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Was Rivers on the field when we ran the direct snap play yesterday?
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
He just sort of stands there.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
He was sprinting; it’s an easy mistake to make though.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 2, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Ha. I’d love to see him race Adrian Gonzalez for the title of slowest man in San Diego sports.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was funny watching Rivers eye the corner that was covering him.
Rivers was ready to run out of bounds if the corner decided to bump him.
by SJO on Nov 2, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes
They joked about it in the postgame. Canepa (I think) asked if there is any variation where Rivers gets involved and everyone had a good laugh. They asked both him and LT the same thing. It got a laugh both times (they probably asked Norv too, but I didn’t see it).
It basically gives a free shot for the defense to hit Rivers. They also could choose to not cover him. Not a fan of QB as bystander in the RB direct snap plays.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I never understood
why last year when the Dolphins left Pennington on the field in those plays, why some DB didn’t just knock his head off.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably afraid they’d get flagged.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was pointed out to me on another board
that you leave the quarterback on the field when you want to disguise the formation until it’s time to line up.
Miami takes him out because they don’t care if the defense knows about it ahead of time.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Ah. That makes a lot of sense actually.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, it gives you the option of having the QB come back under center before the snap like Denver was doing.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Except
Like I mentioned, LT and Rivers both stated that isn’t an option.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not on that play, but Norv loves lining runningbacks up wide then motioning them into the backfield. I don’t see why he couldn’t do the same with Rivers.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well
That’ll just have to wait to be an option for the 2010 playbook, because apparently it’s not in the current one.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess my point was that it’s still something the defense needs to account for. Though, I guess not if they’re publicly saying there’s no way.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In postgame
LT did say that the Raiders were confused and that’s why the blocking worked so well. So, I’ve mostly given the Chargers a pass for leaving Rivers out there.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't LT throw a TD pass to Brees at one point?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
That happened the last time we lost to the Raiders. OT loss in Oakland in 2003.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to see Rivers do that
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Phil isn't as fast as Drew.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Taller, though.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tougher too
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding
Drew finished college with almost 1000 yards rushing. I’m guessing Rivers was nowhere near that even you combine high school, college and the pros.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
WHOAAAA
Why do you gotta attack Pennington? That’s a family friend of ours. My uncle used to coach for Marshall University, and I met him a bunch of times. He might not have the strongest arm, but he is the most accurate passer in the history of the NFL.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because he always seemed to beat the Chargers
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It's not like he was attacking his character
He was just playfully referring to him by a name that many others know as well.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol i understand
I just think it’s sad that his career is probably over.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s been said before about Pennington. The man’s resilient.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cmonnn
This is like his 4th rotator cuff surgery. He’s really pushing it.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You’re right. I’m just saying that if anyone could come back again, it’s Pennington.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
My uncle, who still keeps in contact with Chad, told me that the doctor told him to quit playing before he caused permanent injury. But who knows what’ll happen.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought they told him that last time too
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 3, 2009 5:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He has that potential
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Then that's not really a franchise QB is it?
It’s a potential franchise QB.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just like Sanchez
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He has shown more positives than negatives so far
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Just like Jamarcus Russell
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rusell is a proven bust
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
O reely?
Than why is he still starting? Most people thought Drew Brees was a bust.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is a Chargers fan actually sticking up for Rusell?
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No
I’m saying that any QB can be a potential franchise QB
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
unless they show nothing
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by Patssuck456 on Nov 2, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Leaf?
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wave me!
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
On a more serious note
Let me “eulogize” a little with Chambers. I think the best thing Chambers did for the Chargers was to challenge VJ. Jackson didn’t necessarily look like he was going to become a #1, but its very possible that bringing in Chambers was exactly the motivation VJ needed to step his game up. If that’s the case, then I don’t regret having Chambers for one second.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Like a lot of players on the Chargers at the beginning of this season, I don’t regret the Chargers trading for Chambers at all. It was necessary in 2007 and it helped a lot of the young WRs (Jackson, Naanee, Floyd). I just think he held onto his starter’s spot for too long.
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I could have sworn you guys got Chad Henne with that pick.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
To me it looked like Chambers' problems were in effort rather than skill.
It was weird seeing him just stick out an arm on balls towards the sideline instead of diving for them like he used to. Or nonchalantly letting a defender bat down a ball without really trying to catch it.
by JollyWaffle on Nov 2, 2009 1:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I was hearing things about him in the offseason. Stories that would definitely equate to huge off-the-field distractions. I’ve never had the stories confirmed, but it would explain a lack of effort if somebody couldn’t separate on-the-field from off-the-field.
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by John (obviousman) on Nov 2, 2009 1:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You guys know the best thing about Chris Chambers?
That Fantasy File commercial, haha. He caught a football with two footballs! lmao
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 1:27 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I'm excited for Kassim getting to line up at WR on some passing plays though.
by BoltDaddy on Nov 2, 2009 1:38 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think I'm more excited to see what Naanee can do.
You know, when they give him those occasional screens, he takes it a good distance. Those are the kind of plays wee need, to keep drives alive when our running game stinks it up.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 1:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Temper all y'alls enthusiasm
There still aren’t that many plays to go around for all these guys. It’s still mainly going to be VJ, Gates, Floyd, LT and Sproles with about 4-5 plays a game for Naane, #4 WR (Davis or KO), Tolbert, Hester, Manu and Wilson combined.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
it always scares me when Manu gets the ball
He runs so slowly with it, defenders knock the CRAP out of him. I remember a linebacker FRONTFLIPPED him last year when he had a catch. And he’s 288 pounds!
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 1:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That number is out of date
There is no way he’s only 288.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You mean he's even heavier now?
If he is, idk how he plans on being anything other than a blocker.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't been doing that too well of late
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by Buck Melanoma on Nov 2, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's big enough
So that the refs, Fouts and Enberg all thought he was Clary at different points in the game. Fouts kept saying the Chargers were using an unbalanced line, but really it was just Manu at TE on the strong side.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Knockin the crap out of Manu doesn't hurt him
He should be our fullback
by jgogek on Nov 2, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He has lined up at fullback.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yesssss....I have him as my FB on Madden,and he is majorly vicious...could work in real life
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I keep thinking
they should give martin a try at FB, but I guess he should get NT down first.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 2, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
like the "Refridgerator Perry"?
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 3, 2009 1:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
CC provided what we needed at the time
Props to him for that. I wish him well.
I am not anxious to see Osgood at WR.
I missed something – how bad is Dobbins?
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by Buck Melanoma on Nov 2, 2009 1:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
looks like someone crushed the crap out of his knee
They carted him off the field, but he came back out shortly after with a knee brace on, but he was walking. We might have to go without him for a couple weeks.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They've said
he’s out 2 weeks. To me that says sprain.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 2:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The fact that he was on the sidelines without crutches
and the way his knee bent on that play. It screams sprain from the top of Mt. Palomar.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Once we saw him walking out of the locker room and back on to the field
I said sprain as well.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
2-4 weeks. Hopefully it’s only two.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really. We'll need him @ Denver.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 2, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If he comes back after 2 weeks
There’s no way he’ll be 100%.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 2:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s probably true. It’d be nice if Burnett and Cooper stay healthy then.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Chambes was just distracted....
with everything going on at home… Didnt he recently get a divorce?
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by ChargersWitch on Nov 2, 2009 2:01 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeahhhh!
I forgot about that whole “affair” thing.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
By the way, Wonko, you were right.
Manumaleuna is currently listed at 295.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 2:04 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I still think he's bigger than that.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that's his official NFL weight.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 2:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Right, doesn't mean I have to agree with it.
I doubt many of his teammates would back up its accuracy either.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if putting on extra weight
has hurt him. He was so much better in 2006-2007.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
His gut was probably resting on the towel rack Homer Simpson style when they weighed him.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
SERIOUSLY!
He’s got to be the biggest TE in the league, right?
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 2:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Probably.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Help in the kicking game?
They might be using this extra spot on the punter.
by BORTZ on Nov 2, 2009 2:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
kicking game = coverage teams
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did anyone else see Chambers whiff on that ST tackle?
I think his ST play is as much to blame as his lack of offensive production.
by SJO on Nov 2, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There didn't seem to be a lot of ambiguity in Acee's comment on this
Will add a LB in the next few days
I wouldn’t go against Acee when it comes to figuring out Chargers roster moves.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Someone needs to make a list of the LB's
That fit our salary cap, and that we’re most likely to go after.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 2:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
None
Norv said it will be off of the practice squad.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well who's most likely to be chosen?
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd say Beckwith
given that he’s an ILB.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and has special teams
experience. apparently.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
do we even have any left on the PS? lol
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by ChargersWitch on Nov 2, 2009 2:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Two.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The ones on our own practice squad?
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
lol ohhhh.
I’m slow.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This probably isn't the right place to put this
but this post seems to be where everyone is hanging out right now.
In regards to are struggling coverage units, I have a theory. Perhaps all the players we had that used to be special team standouts have now graduated to the starting lineup, and therefore don’t play ST as much? And the current crop of young-ins aren’t as good?
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 2:44 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
There's also the possibility
That we are missing a couple of guys that maybe were better than we thought. Cletis Gordon and Marques Harris come to mind. Applewhite is another candidate for that. It wouldn’t surprise me that English isn’t as good as Harris or Applewhite, if for no other reason than they knew that they needed to excel in those roles to make it in the NFL.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Applewhite's absence hurts
I wonder what his status is
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, damn
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
too bad the trade deadline is over then we could have traded chris for someone that could have helped us out on D....shoulda coulda woulda....I wanted Shaun Rogers dammit :(
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't noticed Osgood
Blowin things up like he usually does. I remember last year against NO, he just launched himself and took out like two or three Saints.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 2, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Too busy practicing routes?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe
I almost hate to say it, but he is gone after this year too. I wonder if he is just being a bit more careful in his contract year.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 2, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Assuming the whole CBA thing goes as planned
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's a plan for the CBA?
Could you let me know what it is?
I think its pretty safe to say that KO will not be a Charger in 2010, even if he did make the 2009 Pro Bowl on ST (by earning it).
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I meant "as planned" = our assumption of what is inevitably going to happen
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really hope they don't kill the golden goose.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It sounds to me
Like the owners will try. The Players seem to be interested in some sort of “eye for an eye” bargaining where they are happy as long as they get a concession for every thing the owners want to change. I don’t know that the owners will be content with that. There is going to be a real strong push from the owners to make the league less about equality and more about survival of the fittest (or richest).
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh
That’s gonna suck. PFT wrote a piece today about the players’ union realizing the implications of an uncapped year, how a lot of players will get kicked to the curb/find their salaries drop immensely once the spending floor is gone along with the cap, players who thought they were going to be free agents finding out they aren’t going to be anymore.
I’m not even clear about what the major issues between the two sides are. I hope it doesn’t turn into baseball where you’ve got a few teams at the top outspending everyone.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 3:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This is where you and I come in
Well maybe after we are licensed.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 3:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, you can go litigate with the players.
I’ll just represent them after they get arrested for something. ;-)
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
oh...I might need you one day...
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Football couldn't really ever become baseball
without the TV contracts changing. There will always be major revenue sharing because of that. I can’t recall the specifics, but there are other areas of revenue sharing where the big money NFL teams feel like they are losing out (jersey sales I think might be one, but there are others). I don’t think the uncapped year scenario really works for anyone involved and something will need to be done with the CBA to get past that, but the owners feel that simply renewing the old one was not in their best interest.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I knew that was true
about big money teams feel like they’re losing out. I think the Raiders are a big one of those, as they sell the most merchandise of any team in the NFL, yet they have to split the revenue with the other 31 teams.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure about the Raiders
I’ve heard the Cowboys, Giants, Redskins and Texans are the largest in gross revenue. However, the Texans don’t net much because they are paying for their stadium and I think the Cowboys may be in the same boat now.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Redskins
are stupid, thank god.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 2, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just hope they figure something out
so football stays, and it stays relatively competitive and fair, and doesn’t become the NBA or MLB.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There's no chance it becomes like the NBA and probably not like MLB
Basketball games just aren’t as compelling as football to begin with (and I don’t just mean pro football and its “competitive balance”). The entire structure of the league is about the playoffs and the regular season is an afterthought (so much so that more than half the teams make the playoffs). That governs everything that happens in that sport.
I actually think MLB’s system works quite well. Their profits are good. The players are rewarded better than other sports. Both the regular season and postseason are still quite compelling. The sport is mostly a meritocracy where the teams that are run well end up doing well. You don’t really see a poorly run team make playoffs and world series’ and you don’t see a well run team finish in the cellar often.
The NFL will still have some sort of revenue sharing to keep teams from becoming completely cash poor. A little less revenue sharing may help to encourage better front office management and keep owners from taking advantage of fan loyalty. On top of that the sport is very compelling in nature and you can see that by looking at both the competitive differences between teams in the college game and the fact that market size doesn’t seem to limit attendance figures. The most likely worst case scenario in a non-revenue sharing NFL is that certain teams who are poorly run and take advantage of their current status would probably be forced to make drastic changes. But, how much worse could these teams be than some of the NFLs current sad sacks? I’d rather have the sucky teams’ owners be punished more for hiring Matt Millens (like Detroit) or not building their fan base (like Jacksonville) and maybe have to sell or move their teams to make them more competitive instead of getting constant bailouts.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
The real problem
for players is they get owned for six years. And beyond that they can franchise one and tag another; so the number of “great” free agents will go down and most will have their careers end before they can go FA anyway. The cap is largely fictive now anyway; a lot of teams don’t approach it.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 2, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they really should stop giving millions of $ to unproven rookies....ie the likes of J Russel and the likes of his caliber players.
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
There is some discord there
The Players aren’t going to like that unless they can be assured that the money saved on rookies will somehow be spent on veterans so that the percentage of money going to players doesn’t go down (I believe the NFL already has the lowest percentage of money going to players to begin with, MLB has the highest and I think the only league with >50%).
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know I would hate for some guy that has no experience on my level start @ 16 dollars an hour a full dollar more than me AND I still would have to train him and show him the ropes......no sir that would undermine my success in the company...
and piss me off AND make my moral sink alot
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
But as a union the members like that idea better than the money just staying in the CEO’s pockets.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
spread the wealth on benefits for active and retired players alike and you'd see a stronger game and business.
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the owners would still come out ahead there
But it’s probably something they could agree to, so maybe its a step in the right direction.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well the owners have to turn a profit it's still a business.it would be a crime if you can't turn a profit in this capitalist economy of ours wouldn't it
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 3:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
They already turn a profit
I’m just saying the players aren’t going to give up some of their share (they are in business here too) so that the owners can get more. And, the players have some leverage here. The owners won’t make that extra money without the players.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes very true...understood
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I pointed out
That one problem for Osgood is that Scifres’ punts haven’t been as good so there is less time for him to break his double team. There is also the possibility that something about the old wedge helped him make plays (not sure what that would be though).
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True
Part of the problem has been Scifres groin strain; but that doesn’t explain the kickoff returns.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 2, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Was his impact that big on kickoffs the last couple of years?
My wedge theory is all I got on the kickoffs, unless its simply a case of decline.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, man.
KO was going to Pro Bowl just because of how good his Special Teams play was. John Madden said he was the best kick coverer in the league in 07.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It really sucks Applewhite is out
after he had a great camp. He was a ST standout.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This also might be one of the areas
Where Cason needs to “step up”.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s certainly part of it. Another part is that guys who are still on ST, but also starting probably aren’t as amped to be on coverage duties as they once were.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm trying to think who would be examples of this.
It’s hard to say without knowing the exact lineups for kick and punt coverage. All I can recall is who I remember seeing around the ball when the returner is tackled. For kickoffs I’m positive that the following are out there: Cason, Osgood, Siler, English, Oliver. For punts, I’m not sure Oliver is out there, but I know Hester and Binn are. I want to say Kris Wilson is on both units. But I’m still missing 3-5 guys on each unit.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tolbert is on the punt unit, I believe.
I’ve also seen Cro on kickoff coverage, along with Jammer and Gregory.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tolbert
has been awfully good on a bad coverage unit.
I’ve changed my mind about that.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 2, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yesss
He made some good tackles last game.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s nice to see that having two fullbacks on a pass first team isn’t negatively impacting other phases of the game.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Chambers....wow....lol.....eh....good luck......let's get some beer
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 3:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Did AJ just now realize Chambers was too short?
by SJO on Nov 2, 2009 3:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haha, sooo truee.
Every WR is like 6’2" and up, and Chambers is 5’11. lol
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he just realized that he just isn't as productive as he once was 4 or 5 years back...plus we got VJ,MF,LN,AND KO....Chambers who...i mean really
I hope nobody starts defending this guy and say he helped us in 07….cuz they would be the same ones who shit on LT…and he’s done WAAAAAYYYY more than Chambers ever has.
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I've bad mouthed CC since the Chargers traded for him
And even the people that gave me a heaping spoonful of “I told you so”s back in 2007 haven’t been able to come to his defense in 2009. I think we all knew he was on his last leg, the only thing odd here is that you are cutting a well known name midseason and that’s going to draw a few gasps here and there.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't done much this year
and was wildly inconsistent last year.
But I don’t think you can deny the significance of his impact in 2007.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
here we go
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
He got slower, his routes weren’t as sharp, he stopped fighting to get to the ball, and when he did, he showed how much worse his hands got.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve never been a big Chambers fan, but his presence on that 2007 team was important.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
here we go...again...lol
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with Wonko, though, that 2007 is an outlier. He was never as good as people made him out to be. I tend to think that the stats overstated how bad he was, though.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ok...we can agree,he was good to ok,but not great.
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
not me
I actually thought he was going to take our recieving corp to new plateaus in 08 and beyond,but damn I was wrong…..very wrong
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I just saw what he had done for the Dolphins for the previous few years
The bad catch percentages, the low DVOA and figured I didn’t want him bringing that stuff to SD. Fortunately, he had one of his best seasons in years. In retrospect it was probably more lucky than good because 2007 is the outlier in his career, but, hey I’ll take that kind of luck.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so true...kind of reminiscent of David Tyree huh?
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Only a little
Tyree was basically a single game. A much more common (and if not for it being the Super Bowl) and less valuable outlier. Chambers put up a good stretch of games in 2007 that made his performance for the year come out as above average. A far less common and usually more valuable contribution.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yes indeed...shoulda traded for Welker instead.
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
shoulda never let welker go you mean?
by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Nov 3, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I really didn’t like letting him go at the time. It didn’t make sense to me then and it doesn’t make sense to me now.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 3, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Had to keep Cleo Lemon.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 3, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think getting out of a bad situation and finally playing with a good QB re-energized him a bit, too.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think there are more lasting effects from his ankle injury.
Look at the first 5 games of 2008. He was the deep threat guy, and lead the league with 5 TD catches at one point. After the ankle injury, he simply never returned to the player he was. Maybe he needs time off, maybe he’s done, but I think the Chargers knowing they will not retain him in 2010, can’t simply leave him on the roster now that Burnett AND Dobbins are sidelined, and we have a man in Buster Davis ready to contribute.
by SJO on Nov 2, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
to tell you the truth,I don't think Buster will ever contribute...I see him being cut next off season.
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
As John would say
He’s young and cheap. It’s unlikely that they would cut him.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
oh john...forever the optomist...gotta love that young lad
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yup, I believe Buster will have the chance to prove himself through 2011.
He signed a 5 year $11 million contract, with $5.5 million guaranteed!
by SJO on Nov 2, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
he can be traded though...maybe Al would take him and give us a 2nd rounder
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Much of that money
Is already in that sunk cost category I talked about above. The money actually owed to him is very reasonable for a backup WR.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
there is ALWAYS a way out of a contract.
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying there isn't
I’m just saying that there isn’t much motivation to do so.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
how's this for motivation...get this unproductive guy out of here and bring in a guy who actually plays a fucking game without almost dying....sounds good huh?
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m still not seeing a reason to cut a young guy with good potential just to bring someone in off the streets to take his place on the inactive list this season.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I hate to argue both sides
But Gordi was talking about cutting him before next season, not this season.
to tell you the truth,I don’t think Buster will ever contribute…I see him being cut next off season.
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by Wonko on Nov 2, 2009 4:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh. That makes even less sense.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
why?
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because next season we’ll actually have a use for him on the field.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ok...we'll just wait and see if it comes to fruition,I still think he might get hit and fall apart,if he sees any playing time.
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe not cut him,but trade him...
I think we can get a value pick next draft or a viable contributor for the team off of FA,don’t you?
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t see how getting a draft pick is going to be more valuable than a guy who has spent several years in the system, has serious potential and is still as young as most guys you’d be able to draft.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
maybe,like I saud we will see...but we have to wait till next year,that's why I don't really believe in the guy.
It’s always next year with him
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think a lot of his inability to stay healthy has to do with the fact that he was/is still maturing physically. He only turned 24 last month.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so does that mean you can still bulk up!!!
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Rich @ Venice Beach....fuck yeah!!! you rock!!!
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
wtf
his arms look like marshmellows on crack.
I bomb atomically, Socrates' philosophies
and hypothesis can't define how I be droppin these
mockeries, lyrically perform armed robbery
Flee with the lottery, possibly they spotted me
Battle-scarred shogun, explosion when my pen hits
tremendous, ultra-violet shine blind forensics
by tonik on Nov 2, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's photo-shopped.
We're boned.
by maestro876 on Nov 2, 2009 9:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You have to have value to be traded.
Right now Buster is at his lowest value. If we get him on the field a little, get some film of him, then, MAYBE we can try to get a 4th round pick through trade. Our best bet is to hold on to him right now. If he still can’t get on the field in 2010, then I’ll agree with you.
by SJO on Nov 2, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Buster takes a lot of crap...
… but he hasn’t really had a fair shot at the NFL yet. It’s not too soon to be concerned that he may be a bust-in-waiting, but given that he hasn’t been active this year it’s too soon to call him a true bust. He’s a WR: sometimes they need a few years.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 3, 2009 11:26 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I heard a caller on a local radio show
That seemed angry about Buster Davis possibly seeing the field. His logic seemed to be that he’s a bust so we don’t want him on the field (instead of Chambers). But, isn’t he a bust because he can’t get on the field. So wouldn’t it be a way for him to not be a bust if he got on the field? I wonder if there are other Chargers fans you are suffering from some circular logic here.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Nov 3, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
radio show callers are just looking to be angry at something. if the topic was Norv, that guy would’ve had a field day.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Nov 3, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think so buddy
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 2, 2009 4:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let's see more Nanee, but...
…he needs to remember to run up the field, not across it.
by jgogek on Nov 2, 2009 4:13 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
You're sooo right.
Naanee seems to wanna try to pick up blocks instead of go straight upfield. But hey, it works sometimes.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Since the Baltimore game he has turned up field immediately after every catch I can remember seeing him make.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Nov 2, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well the coaches have probably pointed that out to him, and he has adjusted accordingly.
He can be beastly on screens though, if given the time to turn upfield with the ball.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He's the only receiver
that can seem to make YAC; including VJ. I’m ok with some dancing, but only after he hits the damn first down marker.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 2, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm off today and it feels good to chop it up with you fellas about the Chahjahs....go chahjahs go....
(arnold)…just in case
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Same here!
I’d much rather be talking to people who KNOW about my team, rather than answering telephone calls from 3:30 to midnight.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 4:21 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I've never really talked with you dog,so whats up my names gordo how you doin?
buy me a beer and i’ll smoke you out….it’ll be fun
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What's up, man. I'm Rayl.
I’m from Florida, but I’ve been a Chargers fan my whole life. I go to most of the games they play in Florida also, including last years Tampa Bay game when Jammer made Garcia bleed, lol. Most of you guys on here have been involved with this place for a while, but I was just looking for a place where the someone loved my team and showed as much knowledge and compassion for them as I do, and I think I’ve found it, lol.
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by ChargersFanT.I.D. on Nov 2, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
THAT'S COOL....BUT
You still gotta buy me a beer….it’s tradition,new guys buy gorditoe a fat tire…john never told you?
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no modelo?
"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."
...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs
by notorioushbi on Nov 3, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s racist, homes.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Nov 3, 2009 10:35 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
no, it's just good beer, i love black people...
"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."
...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs
by notorioushbi on Nov 3, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
reverse racism.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Nov 3, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For the record
Modelo (a hard-to-find crap alternative to Corona) sucks. Negra Modelo, however, is the drink of the gods.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Nov 3, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i meant especial and negra...
either are good, same with dos equis…i can’t stand corona, it just tastes like piss…ok, since i’m not a pale ale fan and i don’t want to be racist how about a good wheat beer?
"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."
...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs
by notorioushbi on Nov 3, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I second that emotion...it's especially good with seafood and burgers...scrum-diddly-umpcious!!!!
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 3, 2009 1:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ese wei....do you also hate the far right establishmaent?
neo republicans…lol
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 3, 2009 1:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i do...
but part of that may be my own doing…being incarcerated made me a little jaded…i get my voting rights back in 5 months though…woohoo!
"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."
...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs
by notorioushbi on Nov 4, 2009 7:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i feel you dog...
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 4, 2009 1:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer tecate over any other mexican beer....after that maybe a heini or a nice amber beer,if not you can't beat a fat tire...it has bite....ever tried arrogant bastard?
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 3, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll rec for Arogant Bastard.
The IPA is awesome too.
by SJO on Nov 3, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
i'll have to try it...ever try boulevard wheat?
"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."
...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs
by notorioushbi on Nov 4, 2009 7:27 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
we know that already
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 2, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"Kassim Osgood getting more reps at WR"
So you are telling me that we will now have three 6’5 recievers?
And now our fourth reciever is 6’3?
Oh my god!
"They gained seven or eight yards a carry on their bad plays." -Pete Carroll
by CaDuck on Nov 2, 2009 5:25 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
you know what else?.....AJ might draft Blounte next year as well....brown paper bag?
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by Gorditoe1 on Nov 3, 2009 1:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good to see all this traffic, finally.
it takes me like an hour to read.
btw. surprised, but not surprised about CC released.
I bomb atomically, Socrates' philosophies
and hypothesis can't define how I be droppin these
mockeries, lyrically perform armed robbery
Flee with the lottery, possibly they spotted me
Battle-scarred shogun, explosion when my pen hits
tremendous, ultra-violet shine blind forensics
by tonik on Nov 2, 2009 9:10 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
i hear you
how about a BFTB for that new sony book reader doo-dad. if justin timberlake can read a whole book during a 30 sec commercial, i should be able to read the whole internet in 20 minutes(if i dont stop for porn)
by $#%@ eli and his daddy on Nov 3, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know you can get BFTB on Amazon’s Kindle. I’m sure you’ll be able to on Sony’s thing as well. Anything that can read in an RSS feed (like Google Reader or iGoogle) can get BFTB.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Nov 3, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess I was right about the divorce....
Thats sad…
" A finger or two in the air shows how much we care"
by ChargersWitch on Nov 2, 2009 9:30 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
well that didn't take long...
The chiefs just picked up chambers
"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."
...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs
by notorioushbi on Nov 3, 2009 1:54 PM PST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
and another player walks, and we get nothing.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
by gatesoftds on Nov 3, 2009 4:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was determined that he wasn’t good enough to be on the team any longer. What would you hope to get for such a player?
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Nov 3, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I know right
I can’t believe the NFL made us cut all those guys in the preseason too. Our roster should have like 300 guys on it. Then we’d really have some depth.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Nov 4, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
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