San Diego Chargers Defeat Philadelphia Eagles, Tie for 1st in AFC West
by John Gennaro on Nov 15, 2009 4:25 PM PST
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PrintWhew, that was an odd game. The offense looked great, even the rushing offense, but the defense played soft all game. It was almost a copy of the team that went 2-2 to start the season instead of the Chargers squad that has won it's last 4 games.
Either way, the San Diego Chargers coaching staff went into this game with a plan to stop the big plays, hold the Eagles to FGs and score TDs with Philip Rivers and LaDainian Tomlinson. That plan worked, and the Broncos losing to the Redskins was just icing on the cake. The winner of next week's mega-huge game will not only be alone in 1st, but they'll have a full game lead and the Chargers' next two opponents are the Chiefs and Browns. This has huge, huge, HUGE potential.
Although I have some clear people in my mind for Bolts & Dolts tomorrow, your input in the comments is more than welcome. Help to make sure I don't leave anybody out.
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Winning out
After the last two games, I really feel like we might win out. I think the Dallas and Cinci games are the only tough ones, but I think we have a good chance of ending up 13-3…
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Nov 15, 2009 4:27 PM PST reply actions
Nope.
We play @ NYG and @ DAL. Home vs. PHI and WAS.
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 15, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Didn't the Broncos-Redskins game teach us
Just the Broncos-Bills tilt last year. Don’t count your wins before they hatch.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
I'm counting
sort of. Besides, I don’t have a whole lot of influence in how the games actual go. My over-confidence should not actually harm the Chargers chances to win…
I just feel that every game from here on is winnable. I didn’t feel like that two+ weeks ago.
Plus, I think LT may have just gotten the jolt he needs to start off on a Rocky 2-esque emergence from his funk. If so, we may need to give a Bolt to LTT.
by Stephen (shaynes41) on Nov 16, 2009 9:00 AM PST up reply actions
Every game winnable? Yes. All wins? Maybe, maybe not.
Two super-important games here: win them both, and the playoffs are there for the taking, with a bye round possible. Lose them both, and it’s a desperate hunt for the sixth seed. Split, and it’s a fight for the fourth seed.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 16, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
First Place Chargers
Offense:
Bolts: Rivers, LT, LegaDude (big 3rd down catches and TD)
Dolts: VJ (1 catch),
Defense:
Bolts: Uhhhh, Siler accidentally had a sack once.
Dolts: Everyone unless they were in the red zone. 4 whiffed INTs, ZERO pass rush Merriman (1) and Phillips(2) combine for 3 tackles (though Phillips had that one really good one), Mcnabb throws for over 400, nobody can stop Avant even with Jackson out of the game…
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 4:31 PM PST reply actions
I have to say
I am extremely impressed with this Chargers team. After losing to Denver following a bye, going down 3.5 games, and this stretch of games coming up, I thought 8 wins at best, and Denver looked like world-beaters.
The team has really responded well to adversity. We are not boned. We’re looking very good.
We're boned.
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 15, 2009 4:33 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Change your Sig;
Also, Denver’s defense is playing very old the last few games. I wonder why?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
Old one is gone.
Need to think of a new one.
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 15, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
Who?
Law, Bailey, and Dawkins are freaking senior citizens.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
I don't know, man
the deal was win two of three, including the Denver game. They have not won the Denver game.
That was assuming Denver beat Washington, though.
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by Richard Wade on Nov 15, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions
Can I request that you leave the sig alone???
Does anyone else realize that since “we’re boned” we are 4-0???
please leave it… its working…
Nah
I made a promise. It would probably be worse to renege.
by Zach (maestro876) on Nov 15, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
I kindof agree with him.
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by John Gennaro on Nov 16, 2009 2:14 AM PST up reply actions
no sense
in changing it now…as soon as we lose a game it’ll go back up,right maestro? keep it and bring us more good luck out of your negativeness,
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You are right
When we last played, no one could predict we would be tied going into next week. Wonder if we get flexed
I think they have to do it 2 weeks in advance
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
Since the schedule came out
I gotta think Dallas-San Diego gets flexed, with an outside chance at Cincy-SD.
Also, you gotta remember that CBS and Fox have dibs on a certain number of games where they can deny the flex. For all we know NBC asked last week if they could flex the Broncos-Chargers and CBS played their dibs card. It’s all very technical.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
and we already beat the cowboys!!
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
HAHA! How’s that for accurate reporting?
FINISH
by MarineCorpsDuck on Nov 15, 2009 4:36 PM PST up reply actions
copyright infringement
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by John Gennaro on Nov 15, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions
fanshotted already
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play
Gotta draft a tackle next year
Ciron Black? We’re going to have $#!%ty draft position, not that this is a complaint.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 15, 2009 5:29 PM PST up reply actions
ESPN.com Main Page
“Charged Atmosphere” with LT “gashing” the Philly defense for 86 yards and 2 TDs in the first 3 Qtrs.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 4:42 PM PST reply actions
1st quarter
The 1st quarter D was great. We forget about it because they were so bad the rest of the game, but that and the red zone stops were what put them up enough to have that second half strategy work.
The defense
before the complaints about the defense come pouring in…..I think the defense did a great job, and I think that was all a part of the game plan.
I believe Rivera’s philosophy was to stop big plays down the field (which they did) and let the offense have the 10 yard crossing routes all day until they got into the red zone. With the Chargers’ offense, holding the defense to FGs instead of TDs is a recipe for victory.
I could bash Rivera for a lack of blitzes or too much zone, but in reality more man-to-man and more blitzes would’ve equaled big plays for DeSean Jackson and Jeremy Maclin. You can’t expect to shut everybody down by overpowering them. Some offenses you need to contain instead of trying to stop them.
I won’t exactly give it them a Bolt, but I will say that the defense and the defensive coaches played according to a gameplan that worked in the end.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Nov 15, 2009 4:44 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Except they got ZERO pressure on McNabb, Merriman and Phillps almost a non-factor.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
Saw the db blitz a few times I think
but yeah, not much pressure. Maybe because we were playing with such a large point differential most of the game?
This blog has devolved into UT like, uncerebral blabber
SM and SP both had injury issues
And Philly’s OL was under a lot of pressure to prove they could get it done.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 15, 2009 5:30 PM PST up reply actions
But they were missing their Left Tackle
When teams are playing without their left tackle the pass rusher should be embarrassed if he can’t get a sack.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
I still don't think Ron and Norv
Would be that happy with how porous we were after the first few stops.
I wonder how much the health of Phillips and Merriman played into this? Tucker being out might have cost a bit as well, though I’d hoped this was going to give English the chance to step up a bit more.
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This defense was fine when it really counted.
Both teams marched downfield for five scores. One team got three field goals and two TDs and one got four TDs and one FG. McNabb is very hard to pick, and the Chargers picked him once and almost picked him several other times.
You could just tell as the game was going that Philly would keep racking up the yards but couldn’t turn them into points with any regularity, and SD would let that happen. I don’t think this was a bad defensive performance at all.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 15, 2009 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
Definitely a "good enough" performance
But, still some things to work on. Especially if we want to pound Denver into the mile high dirt next week.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
I agree John
I think Rivera schemed what we saw. Avant might have had a bigger day than expected, but neither Jackson nor Maclin hurt us badly.
Looked to me like we were much more concerned about containing McNabb than putting a lot of pressure on him. I don’t care what his stats were – stats don’t win games.
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by Buck Melanoma on Nov 16, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
If a WR is going to play like Avant did during that game
I don’t think there’s a defense you can scheme up to stop him from doing that. When you’re hot you’re hot.
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Yeah.
He had a couple of catches that he shouldn’t have made (including one that should have been a pick), and broke at least one QJ tackle.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 16, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
If that's true...
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
He played really poorly last year
After he hurt his ankle. Football Outsiders talked about it in their Orton article on ESPN before last week’s Monday night game.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
I think Floyd
Did enough for a bolt – held onto some difficult balls.
LT and LN are gimmes, as is Gates, while Scifres was pretty good.
Can the run-blocking get a bolt, esp before Clary’s injury?
Burnett, especially in the first half.
Dolts -
- injury to Clary ( we really don’t need more trouble with our O-line
- stupid rule re excessive celebration
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LOL DHB had like 29 zillion drops again today
and then JaFatass got benched again for it.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 4:53 PM PST reply actions
I hope they put JR on ice.
Hate to say it, but for the rest of the year I’m rooting for the Raiders, especially when they play Denver, Pittsburgh and Baltimore! And soften up those Cowboys for us, huh?
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 15, 2009 5:40 PM PST up reply actions
His replacement threw 2 picks after he came in
I don’t think that can really win anybody a starting gig, even from Jamarcus Russell.
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It kills me
That the Patriots are getting their number one; somehow I don’t think it will be wasted on some fast Wideout that can’t catch.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 16, 2009 6:49 AM PST up reply actions
Cool that we got the win
It’s now 2 am in Italy and me and my whole family watched the game on 2 computers with the justin.tv stream. We all cheered and clapped liked it idiots while drinking beer. It was great.
by matthewverygood on Nov 15, 2009 4:57 PM PST reply actions
Technically not tied for first place
As per the tiebreaker rules, the Broncos are still actually ahead of the Chargers and alone in the first place (the first tiebreaker is head-to-head games, and the Broncos have that 1-0 at the moment).
Win a game, win another game...
… and Denver will have to beat KC, KC and Oak, or beat two of them, beat Indy, NYG and Philly, and hope SD goes 2-3 down the stretch. Not that the Donks can’t beat the Chiefs or Raiders, but they have to sweep, which might be very hard. Basically, whoever loses next week will have to win out to win the division.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Nov 15, 2009 5:47 PM PST up reply actions
We have to beat them by more than 11
to get the tie-break in our favour – is this right?
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Noooooooo
It goes to the better record in divisional games after that and then better record against teams they both played.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
Oh,
So if we beat them and the Chiefs (again), then it’s whoever has the better record against:
Pitt, NYG, Cinc, Wash, Cleve and Phil. This might get interesting, but hopefully we’ll just keep winning and they can worry about falling embarassingly behind in the wild card race…
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Yeah unless they lose one to the Raiders of Cheifs
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 5:27 PM PST up reply actions
Yep, we might end up hoping for one more big play from Chambers
After all.
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If we win out against the opponents that we both play and end up tied with the broncos
We win the division, but we need to win next week, keep taking this one game at a time.
That's a pretty neat revelation
If I’m not mistaken, she’s had miscarriages before when they tried. Hopefully this announcement means that they feel confident that won’t happen again.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
That’s correct.
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by John Gennaro on Nov 16, 2009 2:18 AM PST up reply actions
funny comment on Siler
Accidental sacks — they got to put that stat in listed under AS
Loss of Clary for next week would not be good thing
surfing the blogs while watching the Colts getting blown out by the Patriots and here’s a few worth checking out if this game gets more out of hand
http://sandiegochargers.contentquake.com/2009/11/15/and-then-they-were-tied/
http://ck0712digit.blogspot.com/2009/11/bolts-31-eagles-23.html
http://mrsportsblog.wordpress.com/2009/11/15/sudden-change-chargers-tied-for-first-in-afc-west/
http://otrsportsonline.com/2009/11/15/micahs-thoughts-eagleschargers/
Thanks guys
Just so you know, the Chargers have gone from Public enemy #1 for Giants fans, to big helpers.
We’ll beat denver if you promise to beat the cowboys after we soften ’em up for you
The Cowboys are the France of the NFL
-thwalls
On 3rd down, throw it to Smith.
That would be awesome.
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by John Gennaro on Nov 16, 2009 2:19 AM PST up reply actions
Hehe...
Denver lost to crappy Washington. Even sweeter considering I was in Denver to witness the agony on Broncos faces :)
I respect you Juju, you and your gorgeous brilliance
What a great game
I got Burnett, LT, Legedu, Rivers and Tolbert down as bolts.
20/25 passing, that was awesome; and that final drive was just a backbreaker against a good defense.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 15, 2009 9:35 PM PST reply actions
#1 by DVOA
pshhhhh DVOA. Not getting many predictions right these days.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
It doesn’t really make predictions…
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
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by Richard Wade on Nov 15, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions
I know I'm just busting DVOA's chops
As it were
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 11:32 PM PST up reply actions
It's a well known fact
That the Eagles break DVOA year after year. They get tons of big plays that are usually associated with elite teams, yet somehow find ways to lose by doing things that don’t normally cause teams to lose. It’s really odd.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
Like I say
Andy Reid is a great GM and comes up with fantastic offensive gameplans, he’s just not a very good coach.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John Gennaro on Nov 16, 2009 2:20 AM PST up reply actions
He's probably an excellent practice field and drawing board coach
but a bad on the field coach. That might be enough to say that “not very good coach” is going a little far, but then again, on-the-field coaching is pretty darn important.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
Sorry I dont know where to put this question...?
I was wondering where I can listen/view after game press conference with the SD Team/coaches, etc ? Was LT’s interview available for view and if so , where ?
Thank you !
You can make me an honorary dolt for not knowing where to get simple info..all I can say is living in hell errr Kansas for 3 years has made me stupid
Right
Here, Yo.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Nov 15, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
dude im just happy LT had a great game
I wouldn’t of cared if they lost at least they got the running game
Bolt
My favorite Charger made an interception in the endzone to cap off the win. I believe my man Cromartie deserves the game ball. I LOVE THE CRO!
When lightning strikes, horses run.
Another Bolt
You should ALSO put down Andy Reid as a bolt. Without his FIFTYFIVE pass play calls, and his waste of his last timeout before the two minute warning while we had the ball, that could have been completely different. All we had to do was get that last first down then kneel. (That couldnt happen though) so we got to win the cool way.
When lightning strikes, horses run.
we're not boned at all
"that wasn't a very good start to us getting our lives together. i didn't even go to work today."
...ya'll are brutalizing me... ronnie dobbs
by notorioushbi on Nov 16, 2009 10:49 AM PST via mobile reply actions 1 recs
for the record I NEVER thought we were boned...and I'm not delusional either!
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