Norv Turner Compared to His Peers

With all the hubub about the Chargers under-performing, and how poorly Norv Turner is coaching, I thought it would be interesting to see how Norv's record thus far in his career matches up against some of his contemporaries.  I've put together each of the coach's records as a head coach and kept a running tally of the cumulative win percentage in the regular season and post season.

I've put Norv up against the four of the SB winning coaches who are currently not coaching and will be looking for work soon (I don't think Dungy will be).  I've thrown in Jeff Fisher and Bill Belichek just for some additional perspective.

I'm not entirely sure what I was expecting when I was putting together these numbers.  I had a vague belief in my mind that Norv's early career failures might match up with other top coach's slow starts and that perhaps history would show us we should just be patient.  So, let's take a look.

Norv Turner Playoffs
Year Tm G W L T % Cumulative % G W L % Cumulative % Notes
1 Washington Redskins 16 3 13 0 0.188 0.188
2 Washington Redskins 16 6 10 0 0.375 0.281
3 Washington Redskins 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.375
4 Washington Redskins 16 8 7 1 0.533 0.406
5 Washington Redskins 16 6 10 0 0.375 0.400
6 Washington Redskins 16 10 6 0 0.625 0.438 2 1 1 0.5 0.500
7 Washington Redskins 13 7 6 0 0.538 0.450 0.500
8 Oakland Raiders 16 5 11 0 0.313 0.432 0.500
9 Oakland Raiders 16 4 12 0 0.25 0.411 0.500
10 San Diego Chargers 16 11 5 0 0.688 0.439 3 2 1 0.667 0.600
11 San Diego Chargers 16 8 8 0 0.5 0.445 2 1 1 0.5 0.571
12 San Diego Chargers 6 3 3 0 0.5 0.447 0.571
Bill Cowher Playoffs
Year Tm G W L T W-L% Cumulative % G W L % Cumulative % Notes
1 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 11 5 0 0.688 0.688 1 0 1 0 0.000
2 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.625 1 0 1 0 0.000
3 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 12 4 0 0.75 0.667 2 1 1 0.5 0.250
4 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 11 5 0 0.688 0.672 3 2 1 0.667 0.429 AFC Champions
5 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 10 6 0 0.625 0.663 2 1 1 0.5 0.444
6 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 11 5 0 0.688 0.667 2 1 1 0.5 0.455
7 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 7 9 0 0.438 0.634 0.455
8 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 6 10 0 0.375 0.602 0.455
9 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.597 0.455
10 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 13 3 0 0.813 0.619 2 1 1 0.5 0.462
11 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 10 5 1 0.667 0.619 2 1 1 0.5 0.467
12 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 6 10 0 0.375 0.599 0.467
13 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 15 1 0 0.938 0.625 2 1 1 0.5 0.471
14 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 11 5 0 0.688 0.629 4 4 0 1 0.571 Super Bowl Champions
15 Pittsburgh Steelers 16 8 8 0 0.5 0.621 0.571
Mike Shanahan Playoffs
Year Tm G W L T W-L% Cumulative % G W L % Cumulative % Notes
1 Los Angeles Raiders 16 7 9 0 0.438 0.438
2 Los Angeles Raiders 4 1 3 0 0.25 0.400
3 Denver Broncos 16 8 8 0 0.5 0.444
4 Denver Broncos 16 13 3 0 0.813 0.558 1 0 1 0 0.000
5 Denver Broncos 16 12 4 0 0.75 0.603 4 4 0 1 0.800 Super Bowl Champions
6 Denver Broncos 16 14 2 0 0.875 0.655 3 3 0 1 0.875 Super Bowl Champions
7 Denver Broncos 16 6 10 0 0.375 0.610 0.875
8 Denver Broncos 16 11 5 0 0.688 0.621 1 0 1 0 0.778
9 Denver Broncos 16 8 8 0 0.5 0.606 0.778
10 Denver Broncos 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.601 0.778
11 Denver Broncos 16 10 6 0 0.625 0.604 1 0 1 0 0.700
12 Denver Broncos 16 10 6 0 0.625 0.606 1 0 1 0 0.636
13 Denver Broncos 16 13 3 0 0.813 0.622 2 1 1 0.5 0.615
14 Denver Broncos 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.618 0.615
15 Denver Broncos 16 7 9 0 0.438 0.605 0.615
16 Denver Broncos 16 8 8 0 0.5 0.598 0.615
John Gruden Playoffs
Year Tm G W L T W-L% Cumulative % G W L % Cumulative % Notes
1 Oakland Raiders 16 8 8 0 0.5 0.500
2 Oakland Raiders 16 8 8 0 0.5 0.500
3 Oakland Raiders 16 12 4 0 0.75 0.583 2 1 1 0.5 0.500
4 Oakland Raiders 16 10 6 0 0.625 0.594 2 1 1 0.5 0.500
5 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 12 4 0 0.75 0.625 3 3 0 1 0.714 Super Bowl Champions
6 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 7 9 0 0.438 0.594 0.714
7 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 5 11 0 0.313 0.554 0.714
8 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 11 5 0 0.688 0.570 1 0 1 0 0.625
9 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 4 12 0 0.25 0.535 0.625
10 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.538 1 0 1 0 0.556
11 Tampa Bay Buccaneers 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.540 0.556
Mike Holmgren Playoffs
Year Tm G W L T W-L% Cumulative % G W L % Cumulative % Notes
1 Green Bay Packers 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.563
2 Green Bay Packers 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.563 2 1 1 0.5 0.500
3 Green Bay Packers 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.563 2 1 1 0.5 0.500
4 Green Bay Packers 16 11 5 0 0.688 0.594 3 2 1 0.667 0.571
5 Green Bay Packers 16 13 3 0 0.813 0.638 3 3 0 1 0.700 Super Bowl Champions
6 Green Bay Packers 16 13 3 0 0.813 0.667 3 2 1 0.667 0.692 NFC Champions
7 Green Bay Packers 16 11 5 0 0.688 0.670 1 0 1 0 0.643
8 Seattle Seahawks 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.656 1 0 1 0 0.600
9 Seattle Seahawks 16 6 10 0 0.375 0.625 0.600
10 Seattle Seahawks 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.619 0.600
11 Seattle Seahawks 16 7 9 0 0.438 0.602 0.600
12 Seattle Seahawks 16 10 6 0 0.625 0.604 1 0 1 0 0.563
13 Seattle Seahawks 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.601 1 0 1 0 0.529
14 Seattle Seahawks 16 13 3 0 0.813 0.616 3 2 1 0.667 0.550 NFC Champions
15 Seattle Seahawks 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.613 2 1 1 0.5 0.545
16 Seattle Seahawks 16 10 6 0 0.625 0.613 2 1 1 0.5 0.542
17 Seattle Seahawks 16 4 12 0 0.25 0.592
Jeff Fisher Playoffs
Year Tm G W L T W-L% Cumulative % G W L % Cumulative % Notes
1 Houston Oilers 6 1 5 0 0.167 0.167
2 Houston Oilers 16 7 9 0 0.438 0.364
3 Houston Oilers 16 8 8 0 0.5 0.421
4 Tennessee Oilers 16 8 8 0 0.5 0.444
5 Tennessee Oilers 16 8 8 0 0.5 0.457
6 Tennessee Titans 16 13 3 0 0.813 0.523 4 3 1 0.75 0.750 AFC Champions
7 Tennessee Titans 16 13 3 0 0.813 0.569 1 0 1 0 0.600
8 Tennessee Titans 16 7 9 0 0.438 0.551 0.600
9 Tennessee Titans 16 11 5 0 0.688 0.567 2 1 1 0.5 0.571
10 Tennessee Titans 16 12 4 0 0.75 0.587 2 1 1 0.5 0.556
11 Tennessee Titans 16 5 11 0 0.313 0.560 0.556
12 Tennessee Titans 16 4 12 0 0.25 0.533 0.556
13 Tennessee Titans 16 8 8 0 0.5 0.530 0.556
14 Tennessee Titans 16 10 6 0 0.625 0.537 1 0 1 0 0.500
15 Tennessee Titans 16 13 3 0 0.813 0.557 1 0 1 0 0.455
16 Tennessee Titans 6 0 6 0 0 0.542
Bill Belichek Playoffs
Year Tm G W L T W-L% Cumulative % G W L % Cumulative % Notes
1 Cleveland Browns 16 6 10 0 0.375 0.375
2 Cleveland Browns 16 7 9 0 0.438 0.406
3 Cleveland Browns 16 7 9 0 0.438 0.417
4 Cleveland Browns 16 11 5 0 0.688 0.484 2 1 1 0.5 0.500
5 Cleveland Browns 16 5 11 0 0.313 0.450 0.500
6 New England Patriots 16 5 11 0 0.313 0.427 0.500
7 New England Patriots 16 11 5 0 0.688 0.464 3 3 0 1 0.800 Super Bowl Champions
8 New England Patriots 16 9 7 0 0.563 0.477 0.800
9 New England Patriots 16 14 2 0 0.875 0.521 3 3 0 1 0.875 Super Bowl Champions
10 New England Patriots 16 14 2 0 0.875 0.556 3 3 0 1 0.909 Super Bowl Champions
11 New England Patriots 16 10 6 0 0.625 0.563 2 1 1 0.5 0.846
12 New England Patriots 16 12 4 0 0.75 0.578 3 2 1 0.667 0.813
13 New England Patriots 16 16 0 0 1 0.611 3 2 1 0.667 0.789 AFC Champions
14 New England Patriots 16 11 5 0 0.688 0.616 0.789
15 New England Patriots 7 5 2 0 0.714 0.619 0.789

 

So, I was a little surprised at how well most of these coaches did right off the bat.  Of course, only one of them (Shanahan) was saddled with either Snyder or Davis as owners.  One thing that these records do tell me is that some of the coaches in waiting (and soon to be coach in waiting Fisher) are not as wonderful as their big superbowl rings make them look.

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