Coaches don’t generally get much better after their second or third year on the job. You can look past one really bad season, or even a couple seasons in one place and one season the next place… but this is stop number 3 and season number 12. Take away that first year in Washington, don’t hold that Oakland thing against Norv, and you still have nine seasons of mediocrity with between 6 and 11 wins, and only two winning seasons and three playoff runs in that time. It ain’t the Lions, ok, but it’s not exactly stellar.

Interesting that you could make a very big list of coaches under the career .500 number. We need to be careful with our pitch forks & torches. We could (and likely would) end up with someone worse than Norv.

Norv needs a make over.

Granted, it would depend on who is available as to who should replace norv. And, some of the blame falls squarely on AJ for not shoring up the lines ( O & D), but the last few years, we stuble at the beginning and have to play out of our minds and get lucky (broncos collapse) to reach the playoffs. We need a head coach who knows how to game plan and manage the game who is an offensive genius and a Defensive coordinator who knows defense and make adjustments during the game. I don’t believe we currentyly have that.

numbers don’t lie, but they don’t tell the whole truth either.

peace out

Reg Season WP: 7th of 7
Playoff WP: 3rd (t) of 7

So his playoff record is a reasonable, but his regular season is clearly worse. Perhaps another metric would be % of seasons you make the playoffs:

Coach Playoffs Seasons %
Norv 3 11 27%
Cowher 10 15 67%
Shanahan 7 16 44%
Gruden 5 11 45%
Homgren 12 17 71%
Fisher 6 15 40%
Belichick 7 14 50%
Also, he was handed a 14-2 team, and most coaches are brought in when the prior guy was canned, so things are a mess. So prior to SD, Norv was 1 for 9, or 11%.
I know in baseball people consider it a crapshoot who wins the WS once teams are in the playoffs. The most recent STL team to win the World Series was the weakest team entering the playoffs, but ran the table with Jeff Weaver pitching lights out despite actually sucking.

He does seem pretty solid in the playoffs. He lost to NE in NE without LT or a healthy PR and lost to PIT in PIT last year but got some bad breaks (PR’s tip interception, the punt hitting Weddle in the helmet).

And his games with us seem to fall into three categories:
He is on it, and the team plays like champs: most of the games in December last year, wins agains the Jets and NE, etc.

The team plays well but does not maximize and poor red zone calls and clock management sink the team in a close loss. A bunch last year, Baltimore this year, maybe Broncos first half this year.

The team gets blown out: Pitt this year, NE his first year (regular season), Broncos in the second half this year. It is as though the other team saw something and they could not adjust.

The weird thing is that he has a seemingly even mixture of the three.

Norv still ranks last in playoff apperances. Will ride this season out to see where it goes. Make playoffs Norv stays, if not sionarra.

I don’t get it. All of these guys have way better winning percentages than Norv. Norv would have to go on a seasons-long winning streak to even come close to most of these guys. So why aren’t they “as wonderful” as their rings make them look? Because they don’t have more of them?
1) They are extremely hard to get, and they only one team gets them per year.
2) Norv does not have a ring.
3) Norv makes some baffling decisions as a head coach. His teams often look completely unprepared. We consider it victory if a Charger teams meets expectations. We never seem to exceed expectations. I don’t understand the need to always try and use statistics to disprove what we all know by simply looking.
4) I am not anti-Norv irrationally, and am sick of being portrayed as such. If the team turns it around and plays up to their potential, I will stop hoping Norv gets fired. Shocker: I would be happy if Norv remained our head coach, as long as the team wins.

Good stats

I don’t blame Norv for not doing well with Oak or Wash – few have won with those teams lately

I liked Marty better but the problem for SD has been the decline of LT and Merriman

I’d like to visit the yard sale where Belichek stopped at on his way from Cleveland to NE where he bought those IQ points that made him a genius

Also I wonder how Cowher would have done if he had coached a team other than the Steelers

They are considered excellent coaches, but :

Cowher – 1 ring in 15 years with Pitt

Shannahan 2 rings in 14 years with Broncs – Elway and TD had great years in those 2

Holmgren 1 ring in 17 years – had Favre most of the time

Fischer 0 rings in 16 years

Gruden 1 ring in 11 years

I think most fans would be happy if they thought they had a chance to actually go to the Super Bowl. The Colts don’t win it every year. Neither do the Patriots or Steelers. But almost every year their fans have high hopes from week 1 to week 17. For the past three years, Charger fans have had really high hopes every pre-season … until the actual games begin. Then the expectations are downgraded to something like, “If we actually play to our abilities, and things go our way, we could still get to the playoffs”. I’m tired of hearing announcers say we have so much talent and then they have to explain why we can’t turn that talent into wins …