I think for the first time this is becoming a legitimate discussion. I don't think there's much of a possibility of Turner being fired mid-season. But if the team continues to slide and eventually misses the post-season, then I believe that could cost him his job.
I want to be clear. I don't want to get rid of Turner just for the sake of getting rid of him. I still think he's a good coach for a good team. If the team somehow turned things around and made the playoffs with a decent record, then this discussion is moot because nothing is going to happen. If you're still confident that will happen, then that's great and I salute you.
But I don't think this is a good team anymore. I think we have serious personnel and probably coaching issues as well, and I'm not reasonably confident they'll turn it around like the last couple years. I'd like to discuss possible replacements for Turner, as well as both coordinator positions
If we did miss the playoffs and Turner was fired, I would prefer to start fresh. I'm not impressed with Rivera, and Clarence Shelmon is basically a non-person.
Now, I don't think any of the "big name" candidates would be good choices for this team. Gruden, Shanahan, Holmgren, Cowher, etc., I do not want here. A few coaches have gone to a Super Bowl with more than one team, and none have won it with more than one team.
That being said, there are a few guys I think would be good choices for head coach, depending on the direction you'd like to go.
If you want an offensively-minded head coach, I think Bruce Arians, Pittsburgh's OC, would be a good choice. I like what he's done with Roethlisberger and the Steeler receivers, none of whom I think are as good as Philip and the receivers we have here. He's been around Cowher and Tomlin, and probably has a decent idea of how to run a team. He was also Peyton Manning's QB coach when he was a rookie, and probably helped his development along quite well.
In that eventuality, I think John Pagano would make an excellent defensive coordinator. He's been around Phillips, Cottrell, and Rivera, and been with the Chargers for some time. I think that he's probably got a good idea of what works with our personnel and what doesn't. He's also got a good rapport with the players, who reportedly all love him.
If you want a defensively-minded head coach, three possibilities come to mind for me. First there's Greg Manusky. He was here with the Chargers for several years as linebacker coach, and is currently San Francisco's defensive coordinator. Again, he's familiar with our personnel, and has been around a few different 3-4 guys and could probably help put together a good defense. He's also been around Schottenheimer, Nolan, and Singletary, which you'd hope would give him a decent idea of what works and what doesn't as a head coach.
The second possibility is Mike Nolan. I'm not inclined to hold his time at San Francisco against him, considering the personnel he had to work with there and the ownership situation. From what I've been told, his leadership abilities were never an issue and the players all loved him. He also clearly knows how to put a defense together, and his work in Denver has been outstanding. Of course, we should wait and see if it holds up an entire season. But if so, I think he should be given serious consideration.
Third is Leslie Frazier, defensive coordinator with Minnesota. Again, he seems to be putting together a good resume for himself, running their defense from 2007 to present. He's a 4-3 guy, so we'd still need a 3-4 coordinator, but I think Pagano could still fill that role nicely.
If we go with a defensive head coach, I think an interesting idea for offensive coordinator would be Hue Jackson, QB coach in Baltimore. Wonko brought this up, and I think it's a good idea. He's worked with top QBs like Palmer, and has done a good job so far with Flacco. He's also familiar with Cameron's offense, which a good portion of our key players (Rivers, LT, Nick) should remember.
I'll include a poll, but since I can only do one there will be just HC candidates included. Go ahead and vote, and tell us what you think. Feel free to talk about coordinators as well. I'd like to see where people stand. I already said I'm against the "big names", but I know other people aren't.