Goodbye Clinton Hart
Clinton Hart has been released -- ka via SDUTChargers on Twitter
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Yeah he sucks but we have depth issues
Hopefully this means a trade is in the works!
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 14, 2009 10:06 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
We signed Ian Scott
He can’t play SS, though
http://www3.signonsandiego.com/weblogs/chargers/2009/oct/14/hart-cut/?chargers
by matto619 on Oct 14, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
Gregory has outplayed Hart, but I don’t like Gregory much as the starter.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crossing my fingers
Maybe C.J. Spillman gets a shot?
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ellison might get the start
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 14, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doubt it
Especially not against a passing offense like Denver’s.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
However
Maybe one gets activated and can make an impact on special teams.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Oct 14, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Acee
has been saying for the last couple weeks he thinks Ellison should get significant playing time.
For what it’s worth.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by maestro876 on Oct 14, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Oh Oh!
The Indianapolis Colts waived starting defensive tackle Ed Johnson. Does this help us?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 14, 2009 10:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes
but he has a ton of baggage. I wonder why they’d waive him?
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by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vinateri went down. They signed Matt Stover and needed a roster spot
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 14, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But wasn’t he starting? I’m sure they could’ve waived someone else.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
here’s the explanation on the Colts SBNation blog
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 14, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we afford to be picky?
If his offense (even if there was one) is minor enough to fly under the radar of Goodell I’m for signing him.
by gman87 on Oct 14, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does he have a pulse?
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Oct 14, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If that answer is yes
Then the next question is can he just hold the middle? If so we have an improvement.
by Dude52089 on Oct 14, 2009 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weird, why not demote Hart and keep him for depth, unless this is part of larger moves
fingers crossed!
by BoltDaddy on Oct 14, 2009 10:24 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Twitter says stay tuned for updates?
Big money Big money Big NT Big NT Big money Big money
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 14, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
if only we had this guys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7jE5mdq6mM
we would be set
by cameronm on Oct 14, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what I'm thinking.
This could be a weird day or two.
But I have to wonder why AJ didn’t do this sooner. If he was going to make big changes, why not do it earlier in our 2 week break?
by JollyWaffle on Oct 14, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it takes two to tango
Other teams may not have been ready yet.
Not that I think anything is going to happen, but that’s the reason why he wouldn’t be able to do something earlier.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Oct 14, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus Rivera "put the defense on notice" that nobody was safe
Maybe Hart was doggin’ it at practice or they just did like what they saw out of him?
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 14, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guys was Hart a decent player, strictly a back-up; was he a player who had good football intellegence or is
he a boneheaded player?
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Oct 14, 2009 10:26 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Hart was done.
All heart, just declined below the minimum level of ability (a couple “aptronyms” on this team, like Jammer). Congrats on making an NFL career, man, and thanks for the memories.
Hopefully this means we’re getting either a good safety or a nose tackle. Ian Scott is a better option than most options at this point… but he’s not the cure for what ails us.
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Oct 14, 2009 10:58 AM PDT reply actions 5 recs
first use of "aptronyms" at BFTB
congrats
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by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was a typo :/
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 14, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm curious.
What did you think it was supposed to say?
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Oct 14, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really know I kind of just ignored it.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 14, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that strategy is gonna work
When you start looking through contracts…
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by Wonko on Oct 14, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Totally recc'd.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by maestro876 on Oct 14, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Oct 14, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec’d for “aptronyms.”
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Oct 14, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely
you just, like, doubled the IQ of this thread.
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Oct 14, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm wondering why...
Rivera hasn’t thrown in any 4-3 looks as of yet. We’ve been getting blown off the line of scrimmage since J-Wall went down. And a quality NT for a 3-4 alignment is nowhere to be found on our roster. I was getting a bit tired of Hart making an oxymoron of his position, and I’d like to see Ellison in there. With all of the zone we’ve been playing; I’d like to see some hitting going on. We’ve looked like creampuffs so far in that respect…
by BleedsBlueNgold on Oct 14, 2009 11:28 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
From an earlier conversation
The defense has generally been less effective with four down linemen this year.
Bolts from the Blue // “Game over.” – Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // “Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.” – H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Oct 13, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Richard…
it was ineffective in 08’ with 3 down linemen. i think the problem is simply much more deeper than switchng allignments. and that should be (obvious) by now. 4-3 or 3-4 try either one, but it won’t matter. from what i’ve seen on tape they seem to be trying to get the players to play within a boxed scheme. and they’ve never done that until Wade left. he alwyas seem to adjust his schemes to the players abilities, and it worked. as well in dallas.
The peanut gallery has spoken!!!
by gatesoftds on Oct 13, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They’re ineffective in most sets right now. I’m just pointing out that they’ve been at their worst playing with four down linemen.
Bolts from the Blue // “Game over.” – Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // “Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.” – H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Oct 13, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Oct 14, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OMG
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 14, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
If I go on a killing spree
The people endlessly bringing up 4-3 defenses will be to blame
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Turned you green.
I agree 100%. We don’t have the players to run an effective 4-3. End of story.
"Everything I say, is calculated, appropriated, written and arranged in Feng Shui."
--Gnarls Barkley, "Feng Shui"
Firmly of the "Go Cesaire-- And Take Chambers With You" camp.
Can we PLEASE draft Ali Villanueva of Army this year??? I'd mortgage a kidney for a tackle/wideout hybrid.
by StrangeBroP25 on Oct 14, 2009 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, I don't think you were clear...
What is your stance on a 4-3?
In all seriousness, I speak for virtually all of us when I say…“stop posting about running a 4-3!!!”
A much needed bye week; and two whole weeks to focus the inner hatred of UW even moreso than normal.
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by CaDuck on Oct 14, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My over-simplified definition of a "perfect" 3-4 and 4-3 defense
3-4: Big NT and ends who soak up blockers, creative blitz packages featuring safeties and OLBs, and MLBs who tend towards coverage.
4-3: Two bodies in the middle who try to collapse the pocket, two quicker pass-rushing ends, and linebackers with somewhat less range (but efficient tacklers).
The Chargers’ ideal 3-4 scheme has gone to hell with the injuries to Williams, Merriman, Castillo, Cesaire, Burnett, Ron Rivera’s brain…
However. Implementing a 4-3 would not work simply because we don’t have the personnel for it. Would you move Castillo inside and have a line of Martin, Nwagbuo, he and Cesaire? Doesn’t work. Martin has nice explosion but even running flat-out wouldn’t be a good rush end. I have always had a gripe with Jacques because he can’t seem to beat his man, ever, on passing downs. OG may be able to play end, but also doesn’t suit the scheme.
So what, you say? We’ll bump English and perhaps Philips to end?
Nope. They’re undersized and would get pimpslapped by opposing tackles. Look at the ones coming up on our schedule over the next 5 weeks:
Ryan Clady (solid) and some other guy
Kareem McKenzie and David Diehl (big, tough fellas)
Jason Peters and Winston Justice (studs)
[Also those of the Raiders and Chiefs, who are of no concern.]
Also, that puts Applewhite or Tucker on the field on every play. That is a big no-no.
Maybe Merriman!
Absolutely not. How would his knee/groin hold up in a more physically rigorous position than OLB?
So you see, it just doesn’t work. Enough talk about all this and let’s just get the hell on with it.
"Everything I say, is calculated, appropriated, written and arranged in Feng Shui."
--Gnarls Barkley, "Feng Shui"
Firmly of the "Go Cesaire-- And Take Chambers With You" camp.
Can we PLEASE draft Ali Villanueva of Army this year??? I'd mortgage a kidney for a tackle/wideout hybrid.
by StrangeBroP25 on Oct 14, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
You know I was being sarcastic about my comment...Right?
But perfectly explained why the 4-3 would suck some serious nuts right now
A much needed bye week; and two whole weeks to focus the inner hatred of UW even moreso than normal.
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by CaDuck on Oct 14, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, first-ever rec'd comment.
I must be getting better at this.
"Everything I say, is calculated, appropriated, written and arranged in Feng Shui."
--Gnarls Barkley, "Feng Shui"
Firmly of the "Go Cesaire-- And Take Chambers With You" camp.
Can we PLEASE draft Ali Villanueva of Army this year??? I'd mortgage a kidney for a tackle/wideout hybrid.
by StrangeBroP25 on Oct 14, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i get the argument against the 4-3, but i don’t really understand the whole “undersized” bit.
The giants defensive ends are roughly the same size as Shawne and Shaun, and Robert Mathis from the colts is about the same size as Applewhite/Tucker/English. It is possible from a size standpoint, but could the chargers guys play as well as the others?
Still, I agree a switch to the 4-3 wouldn’t help much.
by BORTZ on Oct 15, 2009 8:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering for those of you that look closely at the game tape
How does clinton hart play? could you give us a bit of a run down on how he plays and how much of the shit talking was warranted?
by nicklusk on Oct 14, 2009 11:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The knocks against Hart are that he doesn’t have the skills to start anymore. He’s not fast enough, strong enough and he’s a very poor tackler. Is he usually in the right position? He certainly tries to be, and doesn’t make a ton of mental mistakes. The fact of the matter is that he can’t cover anybody and he’s not good against the run. At this point he’s a backup at best, and Ellison offers more potential there.
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by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
I agree with pretty much every word of that.
Bolts from the Blue // "Game over." - Jamal Williams
Bloody Elbow // "Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats." - H.L. Mencken
by Richard Wade on Oct 14, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was wondering if he was a good back-up/special teams player. If he is a smart player he would be an
upgrade or present a challenge for our current back-up safety here on the cowboys. Do you think he could be a good back-up?
Ignore the Mainstream Media, EMBRACE THE HATE!!!!
by cowboy78 on Oct 14, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
although watch out for missed tackles on ST.
He had a great season under Wade Phillips a few years back, btw.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
As far as I'm aware
his best season was in 2007 when he started next to McCree. He was second on the team in interceptions with 6 picks.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by maestro876 on Oct 14, 2009 3:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, that was the first year Wade was gone and not his last year with the team, wasn’t it?
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is correct
Wade’s last year was 2006 along with Marty and Cam.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Oct 14, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think Jammer might take his spot?
" A finger or two in the air shows how much we care"
by ChargersWitch on Oct 14, 2009 11:41 AM PDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
It won't happen
but I’d vote for giving it a shot. Your best 3 DB’s are all corners, so why not get your best people on the field!
by BoltDaddy on Oct 14, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree Cro/Jammer/Cason
I just pray that Gregory isn’t the starter now bc he’s just as bad as Hart. I wouldn’t mind either Ellison to start or some type of trade to be worked out with someone. As much as we bash this secondary, our pass rush needs major improvements.
by zabosox33 on Oct 14, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trust me
It’s Gregory. It’s been Gregory most of the year, Hart was a starter in name only.
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by Wonko on Oct 14, 2009 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Exactly
Ellison hasn’t seen the field enough to get a start. It’s now the Gregory show
by matto619 on Oct 14, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
or rather
It continues to be the Gregory show.
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by Wonko on Oct 14, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Two years ago, I bet my then-boss Gregory would be gone before Gordon. Now Gordon’s gone and Gregory is starting. Good thing I don’t work there anymore!
by Neoplatonist Bolthead on Oct 14, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That show
is in slow-mo, I wanna see something else.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Oct 14, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want to see
the Spillman and Oliver show! Though both are listed as FS.
by Natrone Bomb on Oct 14, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, CJ!
But I don’t think we’ll get to see him.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Oct 14, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
and Weddle...
" A finger or two in the air shows how much we care"
by ChargersWitch on Oct 14, 2009 12:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice...
Jammer made the transition from college safety to pro corner. I’m wondering how much he wouldn’t mind sitting back and laying some lumber. He has no problem helping out in run support…
by BleedsBlueNgold on Oct 14, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jammer was a CB in college
There were rumblings that some teams saw him as a safety, but he was drafted as a CB.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Oct 14, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Safeties have shorter careers, more concussions and typically make less money. Sounds wonderful!
How quickly everybody forgets how much they hate watching Cromartie try to cover #1 and #2 WRs.
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by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
hmmmm
I think since Jammer is a good Tackler and has proven he can fight of blocks it would help our run defense a lot… U think? Can u vision that?
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by ChargersWitch on Oct 14, 2009 12:29 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
iv heard jammer talk about playing safety..
he said he is already preparing for it and watching some of the stuff the do on film, i remember he said he liked playing it in college and know he will eventually end up there.
i can find you the article if you want.
by cameronm on Oct 14, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's okay
I don’t think he played much Safety in college, but I’m sure he’s ready for a Rod Woodson-like switch to Safety eventually. It just won’t happen mid-season and not while he’s still the only shutdown corner on the team.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I looked it up
He played safety his freshman and sophomore seasons. He started at safety his junior season, but lost that year to injury. He then moved to corner for his redshirt junior and senior seasons where he became the consensus top CB in the draft. This is kind of typical of the Texas defense though and the wide open passing games of the Big 12. The younger guys play safety and the veterans go to CB. I think Aaron Ross or Cedric Griffin did the same at Texas.
He also played safety, linebacker and running back in high school (but not corner).
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Oct 14, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the past anyone who suggested Jammer be moved to safety was rightly shot down.
But a few weeks ago there was actually an article in the UT where Jammer stated he believes that’s where he’ll end up, and that it will help him extend his career with the Chargers.
Greg Maddux for manager.
by maestro876 on Oct 14, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I think he’ll move there when he loses a step and can’t stay with #1 receivers anymore.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He said the same thing in the Tailgate Times interview the week of the Miami game
Am I the only one who reads that rag?
"Everything I say, is calculated, appropriated, written and arranged in Feng Shui."
--Gnarls Barkley, "Feng Shui"
Firmly of the "Go Cesaire-- And Take Chambers With You" camp.
Can we PLEASE draft Ali Villanueva of Army this year??? I'd mortgage a kidney for a tackle/wideout hybrid.
by StrangeBroP25 on Oct 14, 2009 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought everyone hated Cromartie?
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahahahahahahahaha
sigh That was a HartBreaker moment… lol
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by ChargersWitch on Oct 14, 2009 12:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Ian Scott, HartBreaker
Hey fellas, have you heard the news?
You know that Ian is back in town?
It wont take long just watch and see
How the fellas lay their money down.
His style is new but the face is the same
As it was so long ago,
But from his eyes, a different smile
Like that of one who knows.
Well, its been ten years and maybe more
Since I first set eyes on you;
The best years of my life gone by,
Here I am alone and blue.
Some people cry and some people die
By the wicked ways of love;
But Ill just keep on rollin along
With the grace of the lord above.
People talkin all around bout the way you left me flat,
I dont care what the people say, I know where their jive is at.
One thing I do have on my mind, if you can clarify please do,
Its the way you call me by another guys name when I try to make love to you!
HartBreaker!
Okay, so that making love to you part doesn’t work, but I was too lazy to figure out how to make it better.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Oct 14, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HartBroken :(
… But Clinton has a good HART! He’ll be on another team HART stoppen people…
Ok im Done makin Fun
<3 Lanz
LoL Best of luck!
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by ChargersWitch on Oct 14, 2009 12:21 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
Good News Everyone!
Merriman, Johnson, Cesaire, Ian Scott all on field — ka
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 14, 2009 11:58 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'll be your negative huckleberry
so Cooper and Phillips still aren’t?
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Oct 14, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not worried about them.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heads up for an influx of healthy starters.
Do you think Travis Johnson and Buster Davis are roommates yet?
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also, Scott is immediately listed at #2 NT
ahead of Martin.
by Lenny Suckerpunch on Oct 14, 2009 11:59 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
That's not surprising
I heard some comments recently (probably from Acee though) that basically said the Chargers were high on Scott, but injuries made him a roster cut casualty. I guess they think he’s healthy again. If nothing else, it gives us a fresh body to throw at the problem. Not terribly exciting though.
Wisdom can not be cultivated through ignorance of information.
by Wonko on Oct 14, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been saying sign Ian Scott since week 2
And was being criticized for it. It’s not the same help someone like Shaun Rogers would provide but it’ll help a lot more than that bum we got from the Texans. Watch that draft pick we gave for him turn into some sleeper stud for them, F’n H!
by Harsh_619 on Oct 14, 2009 12:04 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I was not expecting this...
I do not feel comfortable at safety now…For some reason, I cannot stand Steve Gregorty back there, I just cannot do it!
A much needed bye week; and two whole weeks to focus the inner hatred of UW even moreso than normal.
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by CaDuck on Oct 14, 2009 3:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I 2nd that!
" A finger or two in the air shows how much we care"
by ChargersWitch on Oct 14, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You felt comfortable before? Gregory was playing most of the time there anyways. This is neither an improvement nor a decline.
"I did not invent the wheel, I was the crooked spoke adjacent." - Aesop Rock
by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
EXACTLY!
“neither an improvement nor a decline”, If a situation such as this is applied to a position of poor performance….It is not exactly a comfortable sitation in my book. The only reason to maintain comfort before was some depth that had game experience. Now all we have left besides Gregory, is Ellison and Spillman…Yes, they could play well I’m sure, But there sure is not a whole lotta game experience between the two of them!
A much needed bye week; and two whole weeks to focus the inner hatred of UW even moreso than normal.
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by CaDuck on Oct 14, 2009 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YES!
i’m so happy he’s gone. i’m going to light fireworks and run around the street in the rain.
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by tonik on Oct 14, 2009 3:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I called charger station and told them clinton hart is not playing good and they disagreed
I would put antonio cromartie there just like he used to
by BFTB_zach on Oct 14, 2009 4:18 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
?
Antonio Cromartie used to play SS? What is Charger Station?
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by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Charger radio station
They used to put cromartie at safety to test him and he did well before
by BFTB_zach on Oct 14, 2009 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They lied
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by Wonko on Oct 14, 2009 11:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that never happened. The closest he’s gotten is playing the deep man on hail mary coverage.
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by John (obviousman) on Oct 15, 2009 2:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why? What is served by putting him at a position his skills are even less suited to?
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by Richard Wade on Oct 15, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cuz BFTB_Zach thinks its a good idea
I think the Chargers should run a Rocky Long 3-3-5 defense. (Actually, that’s not an awful idea with our personal…)
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 15, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would at least be entertaining.
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by Richard Wade on Oct 15, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure this stands on it's own as "addition via subtraction"
I still think there has to be more in the works here, otherwise this makes no sense. There has to be either a trade in the works, or one of the darkhorses like Spillman or Ellison has really shown something in practice.
by BoltDaddy on Oct 14, 2009 4:19 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
It's simple
The team was already considering Gregory as the better safety compared to Hart and A.J. decided they needed a roster spot and didn’t see the use for (another) backup safety who didn’t contribute on special teams.
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by Wonko on Oct 14, 2009 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Exactly
There’s probably nothing else in the works.
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by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Leave Jammer alone
Cromartie at FS Weddle @ SS Cason @ corner
by RTChargerfan on Oct 14, 2009 4:31 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
No, no, yes.
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by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No.
Might work with Cromartie in zone coverage, but if he gets stuck covering tight ends… watch out, they’ll roll right over him.
Weddle is a very good FREE safety because of his hustle and nose for the ball. He isn’t bad in run support, but why take him out of a position where he could be All-Pro?
Cason I could live with as a starter; he’s got good instincts. Don’t know how hard/securely he tackles, but he does put up good numbers doing so: 74 as a rookie while starting only 3 games.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Oct 14, 2009 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cason is a great tackler
Not far behind Jammer in that category
Personally, I love the idea of Weddle as a SS because he’s such a good blitzer. I just don’t like the other options at FS (unless Oliver suddenly blossoms).
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by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd play Eric Weddle anywhere.
Hell, wasn’t he a running back in high school? Sign him up.
I’m just opposed to moving Weddle because he’s not the cement-truck hitter most top-flight SS’s are expected to be (Polamalu, Lynch, Harrison, et. al.)
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by StrangeBroP25 on Oct 14, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even if he dosen't hit like a truck, and thus miss many tackles attempting to do so...
He never misses the tackle, Is that really a bad thing?
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by CaDuck on Oct 14, 2009 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
True dat.
My point is even though he is effective, he’s not going to head off many RB’s at the line of scrimmage, let alone have opposing recievers quaking in their shoes.
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by StrangeBroP25 on Oct 14, 2009 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've had the same criticism
but he’s getting better at it. I think if he wasn’t responsible for coverage so much he’d be a bigger hitter. I also think those across-the-middle hits have more to do with being in the right position (his specialty) than anything else. He’s clearly big enough to play the position if Sanders and Polamalu are playing it.
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by John (obviousman) on Oct 15, 2009 2:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be nice
to have a safety that put the fear of god in receivers crossing the middle; Weddle isn’t that guy. Yeah, I know he laid out Johnnie Lee Higgins, the exception that proves the rule.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Oct 14, 2009 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ellison is your guy.
I have a feeling he’s going to get a chance to show what he can do.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Oct 14, 2009 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah my point too
It better for cromartie
by BFTB_zach on Oct 14, 2009 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weddle An all pro?
Cromartie has the nose for the ball.Remember his rookie year? He reads the quarterback, thats why he sucks at corner, he covers by brail.In a 34 d you can hit a tight end at the line and release him to a safety which you have to do with most tightends anyways, and you can forget about anybody covered by Jammer. He will probably never be an all pro because he doesn’t have the int’s, but in my opinion he’s one of the best in the league
by RTChargerfan on Oct 14, 2009 5:43 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Having interceptions does not mean you have a nose for the ball. Cromartie got those picks because they were throwing at him, testing him. Weddle is in on the tackle for almost every play, even if it’s all the way across the field. He knows where the ball is going and gets there. That’s what makes him different.
Cromartie would be so weak in run support. I don’t even want to think about that.
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by John (obviousman) on Oct 14, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Cromartie would be so weak in run support.
Yeah, he’s really weak coming up on running plays and against physical receivers.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Oct 14, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well,,,,,,,,,
weak on run support is the last thing they need
by RTChargerfan on Oct 14, 2009 7:13 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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