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The Halfback Dilemma

Let me start this off by saying that through all of my rants of needing to split carries with LT and him having old, tired legs due to him taking more carries than any current running back year in and year out I never once thought "We need to get rid of LT." 

Did he bother me a little bit this year when he complained about the playcalling and the play of the O-Line?  A little bit, but it showed his desire to contribute to the game.  I think it had more to do with that than it being a "I'm not getting mine" statement.  Did I think he looked nothing like the LT of old this year?  Well, yeah.  With the possible exception of the Denver game.  I don't think I saw a single "big run" from him all year.  You know, those runs where he's going down the sideline and JUST getting to the endzone while the announcers say things like "You don't hear about LT having great speed, but he has just enough."  I also don't think I saw him juke anyone out of their shoes this year.  It seemed every time he went for the big, dramatic cut he ended up falling down.

Now, to recap my old argument....my feelings stated above have rationale attached to them.  I think he has tired legs.  See my entire argument here.  My solution has always been to just give the man less carries.  I feel like this is what the Patriots would do.  Does LT still have tons of special skills and talents with the ball in his hand?  I think so.  But I also think he'd be better showing them off if he touched the ball 10-15 times a game instead of 20-30 times.  So my thought process is that we'd find somebody that could share those carries with Tomlinson and the whole thing would work itself out.

Then I stayed in San Diego for a week.  Leading up to the Denver game and then for two days afterwards.  I enjoyed waking up each morning and reading every Chargers article in the Union Tribune.  Then one day I'm half-way through what I think is a fluff-piece artcle about LT when the idea of trading him is brought up.  I forget exactly who wrote the article, but I want to say it was Kevin Acee.  By the end of the article I was almost agreeing with his general point, which was that outside of Walter Payton every major running back in the history of the NFL has gone down in production pretty significantly after hitting 30 years of age.  It had it backed up with stats the ran from the top of the page all the way to the bottom.  It was impossible to deny.  (There's another tidbit about it this morning on ProFootballTalk.com)But the fact that the Chargers were supposedly thinking about trading LT hit me like a ton of bricks and still feels funny....and a little haunting.

Star-divide

 

A couple of other things are forcing the Chargers hand as well.  Let's touch on them.

1) The Gameplan - The best thing to come out of this season is the growth of Rivers.  I thought at the end of last year that we had seen how good he would be.  Boy, was I wrong.  He's still young, he's still learning and he's still recovering from his knee injury.  He's going to get better!  That's unbelievable.  Norv Turner is a great fit for him and that's part of the reason Norv's job was safe even when we were 4-8.  The team, after years of not having to worry about the ground game, has now stock-piled the players to be a pass-first team.  That's fine, as probably more than half of the teams in the NFL are now pass-first teams, but Tomlinson's complaints about the gameplan made me think that he wouldn't be too happy on a pass-first team, even if they were winning.  Although part of that may be because Rivers seems to miss Tomlinson on ever flank pass he throws to him.

2) Young Talent - It wasn't that long ago that when you drafted a player you expected him to contribute in his third year.  The only teams that started their rookies were the teams that had nothing to lose.  Brees played well enough to keep Rivers on the bench in his first year, but anyone remember Brees riding the bench when it was fairly obvious that he was a better option that Flutie?  These days rookies are expected to contribute on day one and have had such good training in high school and college that they can.  Look at all of the first and second-year running backs that ranked among the league's best this year: Adrian Peterson, Steve Slaton, Matt Forte, Chris Johnson, Marshawn Lynch, Kevin Smith, Jonathan Stewart

The Chargers have an opportunity to take one of their biggest cap numbers off the books and IMPROVE the position if they can find one of these stud young running backs.  They don't even have to use a first-round pick.  Out of the seven players listed above, how many were first round picks?  Three?  Four?  Peterson, Lynch and Jonathan Stewart were.  I'm not sure about Kevin Smith.  We could be in a position to draft a stud rookie running back (hopefully a bruiser who can blocks and has good hands) and split his carries during his first year with someone.  Hell, if we wanted to be sure we could trade Tomlinson for any pick we wanted.  More of the good college running backs are turning into good rookie running backs that would work just fine in our talented, pass-first offense.

3) Value - From what I could find, LaDainian is currently the highest paid RB in football at about 8 million a year.  After this year the league will probably be split down the middle between teams that think he's through as a star and teams that think he had a down year due to injuries, gamplan, media pressure, bad O-line and bad luck.  If we put him on the market and said "We pay nothing and we want a first round pick", somebody would jump at that, right?  Off hand I'll list some teams I think would make that deal: New England, Detroit, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Philadelphia, Seattle and Houston.  Seeing how Tomlinson has been in the league for a while and all with the same team, I believe he has an automatic no-trade clause.  I could be wrong and he may not have hit that point yet.

My main point here is that half of the teams in the league still see great value in LT.  First round value.  If he has another year like this one next season, will there be anyone left who won't think that he's done as a star in the league?  If you're going to ship him off, you have to do it this offseason.

4) Darren Sproles - Hero of the Colts game.  If we go any further in the playoffs, he'll be hero of the season.  Maybe not a starter, but a hell of a weapon that fits in very well with our team and does several different important jobs.  Although he's an injury risk and always will be, I think keeping him is something we'd like to do.  The logical result from a Tomlinson trade is that we get a rookie running back who "starts".  The benefits of doing that for Sproles are two-fold.  One, we have the money to sign him back without going over the cap and two, we can give him more carries (7-10 a game) without hurting the ego of a proven star running back.

So there you have it.  I didn't mean to take anyone's mind or focus away from the game in Pittsburgh, but after seeing the Pro Football Talk article this morning (which says that the way Tomlinson's injury was treated shows signs that he's setting up for a trade) I wanted to put all of this out there.  In the comments, put your reaction, analysis or prediction for the HB position next year.

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My prediction

LT stays, Darren goes, and we draft an eventual replacement RB in the first 3 rounds.

by matto619 on Jan 8, 2009 9:46 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

Reasonable

I think they might try and keep Sproles and let him split carries with LT. It’s hard for me to picture anyone picking up LT with all the injuries, the high salary and a 2011 sunset on his career. I could also see them letting Sproles go, keeping Bennett and trying to get lucky with a late round choice.

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by Brian (DaBolts) on Jan 8, 2009 10:33 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Donald Brown from UConn

a man can dream.

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by justdave on Jan 8, 2009 11:00 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

You’re right, although I can see a team that’s dying for a run game (like Seattle) talking themselves into LT and a late-career resurgence. I kept mentioning New England because of the obvious Seau/Harrison connotations. They need a running back and I believe they still have a bunch of cap room.

Your second scenario seems more likely to me, but nothing would surprise me because I think AJ would like to switch up the backfield and put his own stamp on it the way he’s done with the rest of the team. I do think AJ’s the type to look at Bennett and see a cheap replacement for Sproles in the run game. So if we let Sproles go, do you think LT has a problem with splitting carries with a rookie and/or Bennett? Also, do we franchise VJ? Do we franchise anybody?

by John (obviousman) on Jan 8, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Lots to talk about here

I don’t think Bennett is an A.J. guy. I think he is just a desperation guy. I don’t think A.J. counted on having to dump his RB draft (I forgot his name, M-something Thomas).

I don’t think the franchise tag is for Sproles or VJ. We might transition tag Sproles so that we get the right to match what anyone else offers. The franchise tag is being saved for Merriman. The can’t re-sign him before they see next season’s performance and that’s his walk year. So the only option is to franchise him. It’s a good move too, because if he is good enough (post-injury) to warrant the tag then he deserves the big paycheck that comes with it.

Drafting a RB in the first 3 rounds is problematic because we don’t have a 2nd round pick. Currently, we have #16 pick and I don’t know that its a good idea to use it on a RB if there is some other star talent available. We’ve got some other holes to fill that may require the use of that 3rd round pick so it may be a 4th or 5th round guy that ends up being a RB. Although, I guess its possible that we could get some good compensation for Turner (Brees got us a 3rd round pick), but that compensation system is a mystery to everyone, so who knows. I’m also not sure they’ve given up on Hester as runner (he’s the reason we don’t have a 2nd round pick), and even though that leaves us with a KR/PR hole that is something that can be replaced with 4th/5th/6th/7th round picks or even UFAs (see: Tampa Bay).

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by Wonko on Jan 8, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Wait....what?

Why would we put the franchise tag on Merriman this offseason if he’s signed through next season? Wouldn’t we want to put the franchise tag on him next season? Or are you saying do it as a gesture of good-will to make negotiations run smoother the following year?

One note here….we don’t have that much of a KR/PR hole, because Cromartie and Cason are both awesome at it. However, since this isn’t college football we probably won’t use a starting or nickel corner for that role…

Marcus Thomas. I remember seeing him in the preseason (on the one game I could actually watch) and thinking “AJ wants a big, power back. But this guy doesn’t do anything. He’s just big.”

Great response. rec’d.

by John (obviousman) on Jan 8, 2009 1:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

There are rules about switching franchised players and how often you can use them

Which is why I’m saying that they’ll save the tag for Merriman for after the 2009 season. Sorry for the confusion.

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by Wonko on Jan 8, 2009 1:09 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the info

Most of the time when it comes to these rules my rule of thumb is to go by what happens in the latest version of Madden. In this case, you can franchise one player each year without much penalty (outside of possibly overpaying certain players or making them angry).

Knowing what you just said, you’re 100% right. We cannot resign Merriman and we need to keep the franchise tag available for him if he comes back as the same monster.

by John (obviousman) on Jan 8, 2009 7:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

On second though

They may have changed some of those rules with the last CBA. I think you can re-use the Franchise Tag each year, but if they did franchise Sproles they’d have to either remove the tag before the 2010 offseason (making Sproles a free agent) to put in on Merriman or sign Sproles to a different contract (thereby removing the tag).

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by Wonko on Jan 9, 2009 8:41 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I thought that was the case...

namely, you cannot franchise the same player year after year.

With that being said, Sproles doesn’t deserve top 5 RB money. Perhaps we could put him in as a top 5 KR/PR. The Ravens did this a few years ago, franchising Suggs as a LB instead of a DE to pay him less money.

by John (obviousman) on Jan 9, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I think

you can franchise three years in a row. Some players have contracts that forbid; or limit the ability to franchise. Haynesworth had a clause that he couldn’t be franchised if he made the Pro Bowl. On the other hand it seems like clubs will often agree not to franchise a player for more than one season. One monkey wrench in all these is what happens if the NFL goes uncapped; when some Bolts, including Merriman IIRC will be here for another year before hitting unrestricted free agency. After that we could franchise him three years; so you are looking at five seasons perhaps. Also rules now pretty much make the ‘transition’ tags useless; but I think that isn’t the case as we go uncapped.

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by Brian (DaBolts) on Jan 9, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The other issue with franchise tags

Players who get tagged get one bit of leverage. They can refuse to sign their contract and hold out. This is why clubs come to an agreement for only one franchise year because the player threatens to sit out the year. So they compromise, team gets player for one more year and player gets free agency one year later. Normally, holding out doesn’t give you a lot of leverage, but if a team is willing to franchise a player then that player knows that team thinks it needs them to win.

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by Wonko on Jan 9, 2009 12:56 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, we don't have a 2nd round pick

but if we take a non-RB in the first and AJ has another guy he wants he’ll definitely make a trade to get a pick and get him. He’s done it the past 2 years with Weddle and Hester.

by matto619 on Jan 8, 2009 1:48 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but

It’s been hurting us a little each year when we do that. It was fine when it seemed like the 53 roster wasn’t big enough to fit all the good players we had in preseason, but as we start to let guys walk in free agency, we need those second round picks to build up the team again. Bobby Beathard got too in love with trading next years picks for picks this year and it hurt the franchise for years.

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by Wonko on Jan 8, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also

Unless the Super Bowl is in the Chargers future, the 3rd round pick will be a higher draft pick than in previous years.

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by Wonko on Jan 8, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I know

Thankfully, AJ doesn’t do that with 1st round picks

by matto619 on Jan 8, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Coincidental?

Is it a coincidence that LT has these injuries the year we let Lorenzo and Michael Turner go? Turner gave LT the rest he needed in games and L-ZO just flat out punished LB’s coming in to take a shot at LT.

Just my $.02

by Schwing on Jan 8, 2009 10:46 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

Half-agreed

Although LT had nagging injuries last year as well.

I agree that Neal not being that probably brought a few more big hits onto LT that he didn’t need to take. I don’t agree about the Turner thing because LT rests a hell of a lot more this year than he did last year. He also had less carries this year than in years past.

by John (obviousman) on Jan 8, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I hear you, but...

I believe he’s resting more because the play calling allows for it. Most running downs, LT has to be in (this year). Last year, it didn’t matter because of Michael Turner. The little guy would come in on plays where they were trying to stretch the field (screens, etc) not pound the ball inside.

by Schwing on Jan 8, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

100% wrong

Last year (and the year before), Turner only saw the ball in blowouts. Occasionally he’d come in and throw a pass block or get one carry up the gut before Tomlinson came back in.

You cannot argue that every time we pounded the ball inside Turner got the ball. He only ran 71 times last season! By comparison, Sproles got the ball 61 times this year. And Sproles gets thrown to a hell of a lot more than Turner did. So Turner’s touches went right to Sproles.

LT has never been “the little guy who comes in on plays when we’re trying to stretch the field.” Could he better be used that way with Michael Turner being the bruiser getting most of the carries? I’ve argued that. But it’s never been the way he’s been used. He’s an every-down back. Michael Turner was not a “change of pace” back that got legitimate carries in the game, he was LT’s backup who came in when LT was gassed or injured. Big big big difference. I would’ve preferred it the way you say it was, but that’s not how it went.

by John (obviousman) on Jan 8, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

For once

I concur with everything Obviousman says here.

I think the big difference with Sproles and Turner is that you can put Sproles in on 3rd down. Turner doesn’t do the whole pass catching thing so it would have given the D extra info if he was out there on 3rd and long. This year, even if Sproles wasn’t getting the ball, he was still out there on third down.

If Turner had been able to do that last year, LT may have ended up healthier. Sproles really couldn’t fill that role last season because there was a lot of “wait and see” with him following his injury.

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by Wonko on Jan 8, 2009 1:08 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

Maybe it came out wrong because you think I said LT is stretching the field. I meant that by bringing Sproles in, he would be the one stretching the field. Sproles has been used more like they used to use Ronnie Harmon, loved that guy, rather than a true everydown RB.

by Schwing on Jan 8, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Sproles

We all love Darren Sproles and his role in this offense, but after the colts game someone is going to pay him starters money and we can’t afford that. Honestly, he’s a great scat back who I would love to keep on our team (so he can split carries with LT, like y’all mentioned above) but he gets arm tackled in the trenches quite a bit… His big play ability usually makes up for it, but I’d still be worried about him as an every down back.

I think we’ll try to resign him and end up being outbid by a desperate team. Then we’ll draft a running back and hope he’ll produce. I really hope we try to trade for Michael Bush again… that guy is gonna be great.

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by kguner on Jan 8, 2009 12:13 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Not in a million years

Al Davis would never trade a player to the Chargers. Not a young player with promise like that. Not any player ever.

I wish we could, because he has the potential to be a beast. A big Brandon Jacobs-like beast. But we have no chance at him until he’s a free agent.

by John (obviousman) on Jan 8, 2009 12:42 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

Considering how many carries Bush got this year while only being the #3 RB, I’ve got to think that the Raiders like him a lot. Although, I guess they could be showcasing him for a trade, but I’m not sure Al Davis is that clever anymore.

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by Wonko on Jan 8, 2009 1:10 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Their RB situation

is very odd. I know injuries caused it the majority of the time, but it seemed like at the beginning of each week they flipped a coin to see who the starting RB would be and then went with it. McFadden, Fargas and Bush are all good options, but they should probably try to focus on two backs and having some consistency in the backfield.

by John (obviousman) on Jan 8, 2009 7:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Wells (Ohio State) might be available at #16

But obviously I think there are many other positions that we need to fill before RB.

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 8, 2009 9:26 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

I'm really skeptical about Chris Wells

I don’t know if this is a residual Maurice Clarett effect or if its all his injuries or some combination thereof. But, he makes me nervous.

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by Wonko on Jan 9, 2009 8:39 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Also

There are a few guys that may slip to the 3rd round (depending on juniors that declare and team needs) that I like. James Davis (Clemson), Javon Ringer (Mich. St.) and Jeremiah Johnson (Oregon).

Not to mention I have other hopes for our #1. Taylor Mays (USC), Ray Mauluaga (USC), James Laurenitis (Ohio St.), or a bunch of O-Lineman like Michael Oher (Mississippi), Eugene Monroe (Virginia), Jason Smith (Baylor) and a bunch of juniors who may or may not declare.

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by Wonko on Jan 9, 2009 8:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I love Lauanitis

I also love Ringer and the big strong back from Colorado State (can’t remember his name).

Wells has never ever produced in a big game. Seems every time one comes around he’s hurt. It’s a combination of that. Big time talent with small time production.

by John (obviousman) on Jan 9, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Gattrell Johnson

was the Colorado State back that ran for 285 yards in his bowl game.

NFL Draft Countdown doesn’t have him ranked even though he’s a senior and Scouts, Inc has him as the #56 ranked . Maybe he’ll be a late riser or a sleeper.

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by Wonko on Jan 9, 2009 1:05 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Ringer’s workload worries me a bit.

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by Richard Wade on Jan 9, 2009 1:15 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Me too

But he would still be splitting carries with LT. Running backs are pretty fungible so anybody we draft I would only expect to last a couple years until we find someone else.

The LT workhorse RB mold is a thing of the past. Once they start splitting up his carries more I assume we’ll be morphing into (what is now) the traditional 2-3 RB rotation for the long haul. So once one back starts to slow down, you plug in a new kid.

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by Wonko on Jan 9, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Speaking of running backs...

Whatever happened to Marcus Thomas?

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by Richard Wade on Jan 9, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Last I header

The Lions picked him up, but that was at the start of the season…

after a quick google, turns out he was cut to make room for Moran Norris in early October.

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by Wonko on Jan 9, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Header... header!!!??!

*heard

I suck. I should really start reading what I type instead of getting distracted.

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by Wonko on Jan 9, 2009 4:28 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I wish we could get Laurenitis

He’ll be long gone though.

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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 9, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

*cough cough*

donald brown… mumble mumble…

what?

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