Safety Dance
The Chargers have gone through a lot of turmoil at the safety position. In 2006 Marlon McCree and Terrence Kiel were the starters; Bhawoh Jue and Clinton Hart were backups. Safeties come in two flavors, strong and free. Generally the strong safety is the one that is going to be hammering receivers that make crossing routes across the middle. The Free safety is going to provide coverage and over the top help; though in many schemes the two can perform essentially the same function. Free Safeties are usually a little quicker; and the strong safeties bigger but slower. Safeties are usually the last line of defense; if a play gets behind them it is typically seven points.
In 2006 Kiel was arrested early in the season for sending codeine based cough medicine through FedEx to Texas. After he pled out, the Chargers released him, leaving McCree, Jue, and Hart. Jue went to injured reserve and McCree and Hart were it. McCree was a huge hitter, but he was slow and often took bad angles on plays; Adrian Peterson just ate him alive. Hart made mistakes, but showed promise. In the 2007 draft AJ Smith traded up, to the tune of a second rouder to nab Eric Weddle for the future.
In the 2007 season Hart & McCree were the starters. With the departure of Wade Phillips and the arrival of Ted Cottrell the defense struggled a bit in the early part of the season. Phillips was much more aggressive with his play calling; Cottrell was more a 'bend don't break' and wait for your opponent to make a mistake type coordinator (extra credit to anyone who can diagram that sentence). The second half of that season the new philosophy did pay off with a number of turnovers and McCree and Hart ended up with 8 interceptions between them. As the season wore on; Weddle saw more and more time on the field and seemed to be improving. He improved enough that the Chargers released McCree in the off season.
Releasing McCree was not a bad move; he was just too slow. Denver picked him up and he performed poorly giving up big plays and getting injured. Things were not happy for the Chargers either as in the first game of the season Carolina's rookie tight end, who is mostly the responsibility of the Safeties, got loose for a huge game including the game winning catch in the final play. This was a pattern that would recur throughout the season and is evident in the Football Outsiders statistics for the defense, only three teams were worse in covering tight ends. It was often difficult to tell which safety had made the mistake; but more often than not it was Clinton Hart by the end of the year. Hart broke his hand early in the season and that may have been a factor early in the season. There is no doubt that having Merriman out left quarterbacks more time to find their checkdown receivers and that Merriman essentially had masked sub-par safety play.
With the upcoming offseason it is hard to imagine Clinton Hart keeping his starting job. He may serve as a backup but given the numbers there is no way he keeps that position. Weddle played poorly early in the season, but by the half way point was much more in control and played far better under the playcalling of Rivera; he will remain the starter. The Chargers do have Paul Oliver and Steve Gregory on the roster that could conceivably move up. Oliver saw some time and looked reasonable in a back up role; Gregory seemed to improve things when filling in for Hart but looks very slow. Neither is going to be a great solution, that does leave a hole that needs filling, either through the draft or in free agency.
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Weddle is just now coming into his own
Oliver and Gregory played much better than Hart. I doubt he’s on the team much longer.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Jan 16, 2009 8:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Where's the Love?
No option for “Move Cromartie to FS, Move Weddle to SS”?
I doubt that happens, especially with the revelation that Cromartie’s flaws this season were him dealing with a broken hip. There’s usually one REALLY good safety in the draft each year and he gets taken in the first 15 picks. So I wouldn’t go that route. I’d either do one of these two things…
1) Oliver at FS, Weddle at SS. I know, redundant, but I really think Weddle’s size and speed are suited more for the SS position. Plus his blitzing abilities would be able to shine as he could play a Paloumalu-type role.
2) Sign a Free Agent SS. I don’t know who’s out there, but Marlon McCree was a good pickup and I’m sure there’s a player or two like him that are FA this year.
I’m going to chose the Paul Oliver choice.
by John Gennaro on Jan 16, 2009 1:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Free Agent
Brian Dawkins. There’s your answer.
I think you need to get over the Cromartie to FS thing. The guy just doesn’t hit like a safety and doesn’t look like one either, no one is buying it. He runs like a corner, he jumps like a corner and when he’s healthy he covers like a corner. Do I have to start talking about ducks to get this point through?
1-10-DEN 18 (9:52) (Shotgun) 6-J.Cutler pass short right intended for 19-E.Royal INTERCEPTED by 93-L.Castillo (95-S.Phillips) at DEN 18. 93-L.Castillo to DEN 14 for 4 yards (62-C.Wiegmann). 6-J.Cutler pouts ob to DEN 25 for 11 yards.
by Wonko on Jan 16, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In reality....
I fell in love with the idea because of his struggles at corner this year. So I’ll get off it. However, Cromartie DOES hit like a safety. Just because Jammer hits harder doesn’t mean that Cromartie couldn’t handle hitting RBs consistently. He’s a big, big hitter when he wants to be. I did see him hitting less this year than last year, but I blame that on the hip (isn’t that convenient?). I also am thinking a little outside the box because I think his height, jumping ability and hands would result in a lot of INTs out of the safety position. He could play over the top and then beat the WR to the ball every time.
Anyways, I’m over that now. Dawkins would be fantastic, but he’s not leaving Philly. Not in a million years. Take this from somebody who lives in Philly. The fans wouldn’t let it happen and Dawkins wouldn’t leave Jim Johnson if he had to play in parking lots for him. It’s a scheme he knows, he likes and he fits into perfectly. He would actually fit our system worse because he’d blitz less and cover more, which is his weakness. Tight ends beat him consistently.
What about Mike Brown? I know he’s a big injury risk, but he had his best years with Rivera and when healthy is one of the best safeties in the league. Other free agent safeties include Dawan Landry and Jermaine Phillips. Yes, I should change my vote to “Pick Up a Free Agent” because there’s a healthy crop of them out there. Brown and Landry could probably be gotten for less than top dollar. There’s also “maybe over the hill” free agent safeties that include Darren Sharper, Rodney Harrison and Lawyer Milloy. But those guys require more money and only Sharper is worth a damn anymore.
I’mofficially moving my “move Cromartie to FS” momentum behind “Pick up Mike Brown!” Not only a good safety, but a smart player that understands Rivera’s playcalling and could keep the secondary in check. If we grab him it wouldn’t surprise me to see him wearing the headset helmet and calling plays next year.
by John Gennaro on Jan 16, 2009 2:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wishful thinking
I could see them moving Cason or Jammer over if they could get Malcolm Jenkins, but most mocks have him getting taken much higher than that.
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by Brian (DaBolts) on Jan 17, 2009 6:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmmm
I don’t know that we’d take him there. Cornerbacks in the first round can be hit or miss. See Sammy Davis and Drayton Florence. Because we’ve had great success finding O-linemen in later rounds (Dielman, Hardwick, etc) I think the first round choice is going to be a big DT (who can take Igor’s spot while being groomed for the NT spot), a stud HB or a middle linebacker like Laurenitus who’s similar to Weddle but with a LB’s frame (meaning he’s smart).
I like Cason, but I don’t think we’d use back-to-back picks on Nickel Corners (who are on the field for maybe half of the defensive plays).
HB seems most likely to me because 1) there’s a ton of them and 2) it sends a message. Either to the NFL that LT is available, or to LT that his replacement has arrived (which could bring out the best in him like it did with Brees) or to the fans that the team has a backup plan and maybe try to split carries to lighten LT’s load. It also makes Sproles negotiations mean a little bit less, which is always good for the team.
by John Gennaro on Jan 17, 2009 7:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
What I like about
this draft; is there are so many ways we can go: DE, HB, NT, S, OT, G. We can just see what is gone and take the best guy left on the board. Heh, the flip side is that we are weak or weakening at all those positions.
"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman
by Brian (DaBolts) on Jan 17, 2009 8:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
I’m definitely more interested in this draft than drafts in the past few years.
As I said before, and maybe this is madness along the lines of my “Cromartie moves to FS” idea, but I think with the offensive line we’ll draft a Right Tackle. Then, if he’s not a first round pick, we’ll let our tackles battle it out for the open spots at RT and RG. The best player gets RT and the second best gets RG. Third guy backs up.
by John Gennaro on Jan 17, 2009 8:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That sounds about right.
1-10-DEN 18 (9:52) (Shotgun) 6-J.Cutler pass short right intended for 19-E.Royal INTERCEPTED by 93-L.Castillo (95-S.Phillips) at DEN 18. 93-L.Castillo to DEN 14 for 4 yards (62-C.Wiegmann). 6-J.Cutler pouts ob to DEN 25 for 11 yards.
by Wonko on Jan 17, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs



















