New York Jets vs. San Diego Chargers - Offense
by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 17, 2008 7:07 AM PDT
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Brett Favre's mini soap opera this preseason is well known. After Green Bay decided the time had come to move on, they finally traded him outside the conference to the NY Jets. The Jets had tried both Chad Pennington and Kellen Clemens at QB last year, Pennington was the better of the two but threw nine interceptions to go with ten TDs. Their chief receiving threat is Jericho Cotchery who caught for over a thousand yards last year. Laveranues Cole is the other threat at WR, he reportedly has a thigh injury that may hamper him; he also does not seem to be Favre's favorite target. Their offense last year was near the bottom in both receiving and running ranking 25th and 26th in yards gained respectively. That was coupled with a turnover rate of -4 on the year and they ended up scoring a paltry 268 points, about 17 per game.
In the offseason the Jets buttressed their offensive line with Damien Woody and Alan Faneca, breaking open their piggy bank the five year contracts totaled some 65 million, 32 gauranteed. Faneca from the Steelers was the real prize. The running game seemed improved against Miami, but the augmented line still gave up three sacks. The running game revolves around T. Jones formerly of the Bears who managed a 4.6 average carry against Miami, last year he was getting 3.6 often getting caught in the backfield, but still ran for over 1,000 yards.
With Cooper still out we can expect the Jets to test the Charger ILBs with their running game. At tight end the Jets used a first round pick to take Dustin Keller, who they hope will follow the mold of Kellen Winslow (jr) or Dallas Clark, in terms of becoming a receiving threat, but caught mostly just caught flack from his coach in the opener against Miami. The coach had harsh commentary about Keller needing more consistency after the game, he did make a catch last week against the Patriots.
This is a team reminiscent of the Panthers in that this year they have a new improved QB, a bolstered offensive line and a pretty good power running game. Still at issue is how well Favre has been integrated into the offense, coming on board so late in the preseason. Also, having gone 4-12 last year they started from a lower level, and this offense hasn't looked in synch yet.
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by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Sep 17, 2008 8:22 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not just gangreen?
The nation stuff is overplayed.
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by Wonko on Sep 17, 2008 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to overlook the Jets
But they looked mediocre against the Dolphins (who then proceeded to get demolished by the Arizona Cardinals) and had a lot of trouble scoring against the Brady-less Patriots (anyone know what the wind conditions were in that game because I expected more points from both offenses). I like Favre. I don’t think he is elite anymore and I’m certainly not like those media-types who gush over him, but he’s certainly better than a lot of QBs in this league. He gives the Jets something they need, a serviceable QB who will stay healthy for all 16 games. His awesome play-fakes help the passing game more than normal play action because they are so good that you don’t need a good running game to convince the defense that Favre just handed the ball off. His arm strength is still there so you have to respect the deep ball and he’s the kind of the crossing route so the middle of the D better be ready to go.
Still, the their defense hasn’t been tested yet and we know that’s going to happen Monday. I don’t think there is a team in the league that can keep us under 24 points and the Jets haven’t scored that yet this year. So both their offense and defense will be tested. Their special teams are a mess. Ours are one of the best.
It’s a Monday night game that I’m sure will have some excitement, but barring some crazy last second heroics it’s hard to pick against the Lightning.
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by Wonko on Sep 17, 2008 9:55 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Also
Comparing the Jets to the Panthers is somewhat fair, but Thomas Jones and Leon Washington are not up to par with the brute force and speed of DeAngelo Williams and Jonathon Stewart.
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by Wonko on Sep 17, 2008 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre's got an arm too
i almost positive i could out throw Pennington on the deep ball. not nearly as accurate obviously, but i think i could put the ball about 10 yards deeper than Pennington (aka 35 yards haha).
although thats nothing to be proud of, its sort of like being able to out throw Johnny Damon.
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by justdave on Sep 17, 2008 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No surprises:
The game will all be on the Chargers’ D. Is Favre going to have 10 seconds to throw per snap? If he says “f this” and just tosses one towards the endzone on 4th down (see: Miami game), will someone be there to bat it away?
Or is the team at the water park again?
by Dalton on Sep 17, 2008 10:11 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Defense
I’m not sure that the defense is terribly important for this game. I think they can play at about the same level they did for the last two games and the Chargers should have enough firepower to outscore the Jets. This would have worked against the Panthers too, but Stewart and Williams proved to be too much to handle and the Panthers ate away possessions from the offense. I just don’t think the Jets have the talent to pull that off. Jones isn’t as good as either of those and when he gets a breather the talent level drops even more. That being said, I’d be thrilled if they play better and they will need to get their act together for the Chargers to make the playoffs. There are stronger teams than the Jets out there that the Chargers will have to beat them to get into the playoffs.
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Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
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by Wonko on Sep 17, 2008 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree, to some extent
But Favre has had a couple weeks to get acclimated to his new offense. If the Chargers can’t get to him (a la the pass rush last week), I’m sure the Jets can put up a few touchdowns, and possibly even keep it close enough for a last-minute turnover/whistle to be significant again.
I’ll take 38 points from the offense, in any case.
by Dalton on Sep 17, 2008 1:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Favre
I’m pretty sure he’s running his own offense, with Schottenheimer just providing the framework and some terminology (Is Schottenheimer even older that Favre?) So I suspect that WYSIWYG as far as the Jets offense this year. Could be wrong though.
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by Wonko on Sep 17, 2008 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
one thing the addition of Favre gives them
is someone to throw the deep ball to their extremely fast receivers. laveeaahrahhnoooousss coles is one of the fastest dudes in the league, and Cotchery (as we’ve seen) is one of those freak specimens thats big, fast, and has some leapers.
its a shame they dont have santana moss anymore, this offense could be the most fun Madden offense ever.
oh except Thomas Jones, he sucks (fantasy team killer!!)
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by justdave on Sep 17, 2008 10:16 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
you know this
man!
Bring back Balboa Stadium.
by calipatrick on Sep 18, 2008 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
soup guize
this is all i wanted to do after reading this post
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by Axion on Sep 17, 2008 10:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I love the look of flying buttresses in the morning
They look like victory!
"If two hitherto rival football teams, under the influence of brotherly love, decided to co-operate in placing the football first beyond one goal and then beyond the other, no one's happiness would be increased" Bertrand Russell
by Brian (DaBolts) on Sep 17, 2008 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get well game
I’ll be at the game. I expect the Chargers to kill them, along the lines of 32-10. Favre has looked lucky more than good, and that only lasts so long. It think the Chargers will come out “pissed off and packing.” They better… I’ve seen that crowd turn on them. Was anybody else there last year when they started chanting “Marty, Marty, Marty”?
by CoastalBronco on Sep 17, 2008 11:48 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I will be there on Monday night as well....
and fully expect the Bolts to blow the Jets out of the building…hopefully becoming a laugher along the way. The crowd will be raucous and EXPECTS a win this week. I also expect a more focused D, and a better pass rush.
by Clip Show on Sep 17, 2008 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
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