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by Brian (DaBolts) on Dec 16, 2008 7:49 AM PST Comment 16 comments

Do the Chargers deserve the playoffs? If they win out and Denver loses out; it seems to me they deserve to be there more than the Broncos. That is still very improbable. Right now the Chargers would have to string together six wins straight; all of them against playoff caliber teams to go all the way; this is a long road.

Are the Chargers partying too hardy? Floyd has a "little bit of a collapsed lung", and Hardwick has a concussion. They are a little dinged up going into Tampa.

Norv didn't think they were flat in the first half at KC? 106 yards of offense?

Is Carolina the best in the NFL? Justin Tuck says yes, they sure looked good against Denver; good enough that the network cut away on me to go to a 'competitive' game.

Michael Turner was worth the money. Ya think?

Kansas City GM Carl Peterson resigned after Sunday's collapse against the Bolts.

Giant's Eli Manning was sacked eight times. Wasn't he the guy that didn't want to play here because the offensive line wasn't good enough?

Fat Albert's knee will keep him out at least a few weeks; I don't see the Titans winning without him; hopefully he will be back for the playoffs.

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A brief analysis of the Chargers star players this year and next by a fantasy guy.

“Let’s set up the traffic light for the Chargers in 2009: Green Light: Rivers, Jackson, Nate Kaeding, defense if Shawne Merriman returns. Yellow Light: Tomlinson, Gates (I want a major discount before I step in on either guy). Red Light: Chambers. Sleepers: Malcom Floyd, Darren Sproles (not built for heavy usage, but he deserves more touches).”

I’m assuming this analysis has the “fantasy spin” to it, otherwise I’d be arguing how wrong he is about Kaeding.

by John Gennaro on Dec 16, 2008 8:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

VJ had a slight concussion too

2009 San Diego Padres. Not as bad as Aztec Football!

by Sam (sdsuaztec4) on Dec 16, 2008 10:18 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

There's no such thing a slight concussion

I ♥ Trent Edwards' groin

by Wonko on Dec 16, 2008 10:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Sure there is. It’s when someone else has a concussion. Also, great signature.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 16, 2008 10:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

My buddy got a collapsed lung from partying too hard

That was a fun wedding

by matthewverygood on Dec 16, 2008 11:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs

Rapid fire

1. Chargers deserve playoffs? No, but neither does Denver
2. Partying too hard? No, only BoltsfromtheBlue does that
3. Flat team? pfft, as a stack of pancakes.
4. Cutting away from Carolina – shouldnt have done it to the west coast.
5. Yes, yes I do.
6. I heard he was FIRED
7. Sympathy 404
8. Stupid pujols…

Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you? ◔ヮ◔
Uncommon Sportsman :: Absurdity in play

by Axion on Dec 16, 2008 1:28 PM PST reply actions 0 recs

The ending on the Bal-Pit game was awesome

I think they made the right call. I was bored of the Carolina-Denver game at that point.

I ♥ Trent Edwards' groin

by Wonko on Dec 16, 2008 2:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

It would have been more awesome if the referees hadn’t overturned their initial call.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 16, 2008 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Michael Turner = Overrated

He is still being outperformed by his backup Norwood who is an above average who gets paid nothing while Turner gets the big bucks for a league average performance. His numbers are propped up by leading the league in carries and carving up bad defenses better than he can muscle through strong defenses. He gets credit for his “power” skills but everytime I see him run through a guy its another tiny DB that should’ve gone for his legs whereas everytime he gets hit by a DL or LB he goes down easy. And, of course, he provides absolutely no value in the receiving game.

That’s not to say he’s not having a better year than LT, because that wouldn’t be true. But Turner is way overpaid when you consider what he’s actually providing the team.

I ♥ Trent Edwards' groin

by Wonko on Dec 16, 2008 2:13 PM PST reply actions 1 recs

I keep clicking hide when I mean to hit Rec, so if one of your comments disappears, that’s probably why.

Bolts from the Blue // People who have time on their hands will inevitably waste the time of people who have work to do.

by Richard Wade on Dec 16, 2008 2:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Thunder and Lightning/Smash and Dash

Turner is a great weapon for Atlanta. He is what Lendale White is for Tennesse, what Brandon Jacobs is for the Giants and what Marion Barber is for the Cowboys. He will consistently get 4 yards per carry, he won’t get hurt and he’ll pound the defense so that when you put in the speedy guy (Norwood) he can use his quickness and blow past them.

Atlanta didn’t get Turner to be a big play guy. They got him to pound away, balance the offense and create some big plays for Norwood. He’s exactly what they wanted. He’s overpaid because everyone is overpaid their first year after being the best free agent running back (or WR or lineman) in football.

by John Gennaro on Dec 17, 2008 7:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Well if that's what they got him for

Then they are setting themselves up for failure. Because any strategy that requires you to run more with an inferior back is not a good one. I’d also argue that the only reason Turner “will consistently get 4 yards per carry” is because his offensive line is doing most of that work and because his numbers are inflated due to his great yardage numbers against bad run defenses.

Plus, like I said, Turner doesn’t seem to “pound the defense”, the defense seems to pound him because he doesn’t avoid the linebackers and lineman. He gets his rep for being a mauler because he likes to hit DBs and they go down easy against a big guy like him.

I ♥ Trent Edwards' groin

by Wonko on Dec 17, 2008 8:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

By your philosophy

Sproles should be getting 20-25 carries a game and LT should be sitting on the sidelines because Sproles has looked better this year and is getting 4.7 yards per carry against Tomlinson’s 3.7. We won’t do that because Sproles is too small and isn’t going to be effective touching the ball 20 times a game. Neither would Norwood.

EVERY back that has a good yards per carry can thank his offensive line. and if he’s beating up on bad run defenses only, count the Chargers as one because he put up 120 yards on us.

I’m not saying the man is out there running over defensive lineman and linebackers. Almost no running back does that with any consistency. Those players are supposed to be blocked by the line and the fullback. It’s the RB’s job to find the hole and get past the secondary. Turner does that better than anyone on our team this year. And when you can get 4-5 yards per carry out of your back (and your offensive line), it means the defense has to be ready for a run or a pass on all downs. That’s the kindof balance Turner provides for Atlanta. Norwood is simply a speedy, shifty, big-play weapon.

by John Gennaro on Dec 17, 2008 10:30 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

Comparing Turner to our running game isn't fair

Our running game sucks. I’m just saying that compared to other players in the league, he’s not really living up to the hype.

Plus, I don’t see Norwood as a Sproles-type. I see him as an every down back being wasted on the bench. It’s not long ago that Turner was in the same position and instead of going with their own (cheap) guy, they went out and paid a bunch of money so that they could get roughly league average performance out of their running back.

And BTW, how did Turner go from “consistently get 4 yards per carry” to “get 4-5 yards per carry”? Is your next post going to have him at 6 yards per carry?
It doesn’t matter because both are untrue. His average his 4 because he averaged way more than 4 against bad defenses and closer to 3 against good ones (although I will give him props for improving in the 2nd Carolina game).

Anyway you slice it, because he’s getting talked about like he’s a top 5 back now, he ends up being overrated. He’s probably more in the 15-20 range as far as NFL backs go. He’s Travis Henry (without the pot problem) or DeSean Foster all over again.

I ♥ Trent Edwards' groin

by Wonko on Dec 17, 2008 12:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs