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Grading the Bolts

Considering this was a game they had to have the Chargers came out flat.  At home after the bye, the defense would give up two long TD drives and the offense would bog down and settle for two field goals, and then give up the int right before the half.  Give the Chiefs full credit; they did not look like a 1-7 football team.  Thigpen was throwing well and they mostly held the San Diego offense despite having numerous injuries that left second and third stringers in their lineup.  This was a game I expected the Chargers to dominate, but the Chiefs showed up with grit and were surprisingly stout against the run.  This looks like a team that is moving the right direction and it is going to be trouble down the road.

The story of this game for me was the way the Chargers defense showed up in the second half.  They forced five consecutive punts from KC; once immediately after an interception.  While they gave up the final TD drive; a lot of those yards came from a highly questionable PI call.  They also forced KC to a fourth down once; and in the end Hart made that one big defensive play that has been eluding the Bolts this whole season. 

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                                   Clinton Saves the Day

Quarterback - B

In a stiff wind some of Rivers passes were not as crisp as they needed to be.  He also overthrew LT on a crucial third down in the red zone resulting in a San Diego Field goal.  At the end of the first half he was picked off in the endzone killing what had been a good drive.  He came out sharp in the second half throwing the TD to Floyd, but also burned two time outs trying to audible at the line and then had the killer interception trying to avoid the sack.  For all that he threw for 300 yards with 2 TDs and two interceptions.  In crunch time he was eight for eight on the final drive.

Wide Receivers - A-

Vincent Jackson had another drop, but otherwise looked reasonably sharp.  The wide receiver who was money this game was Malcolm Floyd who made a remarkable juggling catch on the sideline as well as catching the TD in the second half to tie it up.  This kid is just lighting it up; you have to love the Chargers depth at wide receiver.  Legedu Naanee came up big with a fine third down catch as well.

Tight Ends - A-

Antonio Gates was tremendous; along with the other wide receivers the Chargers definitely have an impressive array of weapons through the air.  He came up huge on the go ahead drive in the second half on third down; and then for the go ahead TD.

Offensive Line - B-

They gave up two sacks; and the running game against an anemic defense with multiple injuries was limp.  LT appeared to be running hard, but even after making two or three tacklers miss, he would be back at the line of scrimmage; the line was allowing penetration.  It improved a bit towards the end of the game, but what has become of the offensive line that used to pummel opponents into submission?

Running Backs - C+

LT was running hard, but really didn't have the holes to run through.  Fullback Mike Tolbert made several nice runs after short passes; and lateraled one to LT for a nice gainer.  LT began moving better in the second half, juking one KC defender out of his cleats; then running for 20 yards.  LT also passed OJ Simpson and Corey Dillon on yards, he is now in 15th place; he needs just 74 yards to pass John Riggins next week.

Defensive line - B-

There was still not enough pressure on the QB; but they did do a nice job of containing the running game.  Jamal Williams was great in the center, and Castillo made a couple nice tackles.  Jamal came up huge more than a few times in getting penetration and stuffing the run; and in one instance getting in Thigpen's face just as he was throwing to force an errant throw and subsequent punt.

Cornerbacks - C

They ran hot and cold; Jammer gave up the TD early when he just gave up on the receiver; but would redeem himself with I believe three huge third down stops.  Cason came up huge on another third down stop off Rivers turnover in the second half.  Cromartie had a nice chip that cost the Chiefs a third down conversion too.  Overall they looked to play much more man to man and were able to help force a series of three and outs.  While Hart was called for PI right at the end of the game; it was clearly a blown call on what was a terrific play.

Safeties - A-

While I didn't see any specific mistakes; Gonzales had a huge game and there were several plays where the safety help to the inside seemed slow.  Weddle made some nice tackles for short gains on short routes.  The high grade is almost entirely for Clinton Hart who both made a terrific play in the fourth quarter that the officials somehow turned into a PI call, but then made the play at the games end to deny the Chiefs the two point conversion and iced the Chargers victory.  After having been unfairly flagged, having missed the game saving play against the Panthers and having been called out for poor play in the press; that had to be most satisfying.

Linebackers -C

Marques Harris came close to getting a sack, and they were really attacking the run.  While there wasn't as much pressure as you would hope for; they were really diving in at the line on the blitzes.  This team has really come a long way against the run; they still have a ways to come against the pass.  For the Chiefs third string QB to come into the Murph and end up with a QB rating that looks like Manning spells trouble.  It was also yet another game without an interception; or turnover for that matter.

Coaching -C

The defense in the first half gave up the big touchdown, but did seem to force more third downs.  The offense came out flat, and I still would like to see them run the ball more.  I would have expected the staff to have them come roaring out, but that just didn't happen here.  Rivers is starting to try and force things when they aren't there; and had more than a few balls go out waffling in the wind.  There were also two instances of Rivers calling timeouts because of trying to audible a play late in the count; not to mention one delay of game.  You can blame Rivers for the mistakes; but you would expect Turner to be working with him on knowing when to throw the ball away.

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Should they be reviewing close referee calls in the final two minutes of the halves?
Yes; there are too many blown calls.
30 votes
No, it will just slow the game down; blown calls are part of the game.
10 votes

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"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 9, 2008 8:01 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just for the record.

There were at least 4 PI’s, mostly by Jammer, that went uncalled throughout the game. The one on Hart at the end was a blown call, yes, but it was much closer than most of the non-calls.

Plus, they inexplicably decided not to review a clear catch by Dwayne Bowe, which would have made the official’s call irrelevant.

Good game, and hope you guys can pick up the pace and catch the always hated Broncos, but don’t go way out and use one blown call and start whining for officials to be reviewed late.

by rockchalk on Nov 9, 2008 9:11 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was an obvious non-catch by Bowe.

by Richard Wade on Nov 9, 2008 9:36 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I shouldn't have said 'clear'.

It clearly should have been reviewed, but I don’t think it was obvious either way whether he caught it or not. It sure as hell looked like he caught it, though.

by rockchalk on Nov 9, 2008 10:15 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

After he pulled it in, he only got one foot down.

by Richard Wade on Nov 10, 2008 10:11 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Many more than one

There have been at least four egregious calls now. The first by Hochuli in the Denver game; another in the game against the Saints that cost a TD; Jammer had a pick taken away and this one that moved it to a first and goal. That’s almost half our games that have had really serious errors. And it hasn’t been just been the Bolts, I have seen two or three real howlers called on the Broncos too. Seriously half the games I’ve watched have involved completely bungled calls by the zebras.

Earl Weaver sometimes used to go up to umpires and ask, “Are you going to get any better; or is this it?” I have come to the conclusion that this is it. And given that refs are going to make serious errors; why is it we can review whether a receiver gets his feet in bounds on clear and convincing evidence, but we can’t review whether a defender hit a receiver before the ball was there on clear and convincing evidence? Why allow challenges for whether the twelfth defender got off the field in time, but not for if the defender hit the receiver on time? Use the same standard of clear and convincing; why not correct errors if you can?

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 10, 2008 7:31 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True.

And I actually do agree that PI should be able to be reviewed. It killed us last week against Tampa Bay, and had a profound impact yesterday.

I don’t think that they should be able to review all calls in general, but I do agree that they should be able to review PI. Just as long as they don’t get crazy with it.

by rockchalk on Nov 10, 2008 4:16 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I would go for that

I don’t want them reviewing every motion, holding and offsides penalty, but the PI calls can be huge.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 10, 2008 5:52 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

PI reviews

A lot of people have been talking about this. The problem is that the refs would probably go conservative. So if there is even a hint of contact before the catch attempt and the play was called a PI on the field then it would be upheld. Now I could see it work the other way, that if a play was not called a PI and they saw enough contact on the replay, then it could be overturned.

Homer: Ohhhh, The Denver Broncos.
Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
Homer: Marge you just don't understand football.

by Wonko on Nov 11, 2008 12:26 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

YOU PLAY THE GAME TO WIN

To quote Coach Herman Edwards while he was still in New York Gang Green, “YOU PLAY THE GAME TO WIN.” I’d rather the Bolts win ugly, at home, against an inferior opponent than lose. Period. All the lingering criticism of this team and its units/players/schemes is valid. That said, if this team has consistently shown one trait this year, and last year it’s an ability to come from behind in the second half and in the fourth quarter. I’d rather get a lead and play from ahead too, but I’ll take the guys and Rivers ability to win games when it’s all on the line.

by SoCalCMH on Nov 10, 2008 12:19 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmm winning is a good thing

You make a very controversial point.

However, there is a way to win that gets you a win. And then there is a way to win that shows that you can win in the future. The Chargers did the former and it deserves to be pointed out. Playing games like this, win or lose, tells me that the Chargers will play more games like this and that means they’ll probably lose as many of those as they win. Thinking that players win these types of games because they know how to win games is just a way to make yourself feel good after your team wins a game that could have gone either way.

Homer: Ohhhh, The Denver Broncos.
Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
Homer: Marge you just don't understand football.

by Wonko on Nov 10, 2008 12:34 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think he's saying that

Not that they know how to win close ones; they obviously don’t. It’s more that they don’t give up when they are down. So if there is a better way to win; how you lose also says something; these guys aren’t going belly up in games even when they get far behind. Chalk it up to feelgoodism, but I like that about this Charger team too.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 10, 2008 8:01 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also, your O-line gave up 2 sacks

Not to rub them in (we lost after all), but in the interest of fact checking.

by Official Arrowhead Pride Parade on Nov 10, 2008 6:07 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point

I posted that one too fast…

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 10, 2008 7:08 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that was an ugly game

but in the interest of giving credit where it is due, i applaud shaun phillips for not biting on the run fake and getting pressure on thigpen on that final 2 pt try.

if he hadnt been there, this might be a wholly different conversation.

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by justdave on Nov 10, 2008 8:51 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

True

Shaun really came up big on that

by matto619 on Nov 10, 2008 11:36 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

However

The Chiefs probably should have blocked him. But that’s probably part of why they are 1-8.

Homer: Ohhhh, The Denver Broncos.
Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
Homer: Marge you just don't understand football.

by Wonko on Nov 11, 2008 12:28 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So

I was in New York for the Calzaghe v Jones fight at MSG and I missed the game because the bar in NYC that I watched the afternoon games at didn’t have the football package, however they did have beer pong.

Anyway, what was the general impression of the game? Just a rare poor showing from the offense? Defense still sucks ass shit? Defense was better?

Notwithstanding the offense, does giving up 19 to the Chiefs at home constitute a success or a failure?

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by sdsuaztec4 on Nov 10, 2008 5:18 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was both

Defense (esp. secondary) playing poorly and some miscues from Phillip. It was a lot like the Buffalo game to me.

by matto619 on Nov 10, 2008 5:29 PM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its almost the midde of november

and we’re almost .500! All we have to do is beat the steelers next week. can’t wait.

Bring back Balboa Stadium.

by calipatrick on Nov 10, 2008 5:19 PM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where was Chambers!?!?!

I’m probably missing it, but I can’t find any info on why Chambers didn’t play. DaBolts can you help me out with this? My fantasy football team is hurting without him.

"You always knew the day would come when the machines would rise up and take over the world, but never did you imagine it'd be so convenient."

by Denver_Native on Nov 11, 2008 7:32 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He was in for a few plays

But he has been suffering from an ankle sprain for a number of weeks now. Watch here on Thursday/Friday to see if he has been practicing. Floyd has done such a great job filling in that they don’t push him on the injury.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 11, 2008 7:53 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for the website!

What do you think his chances of playing this week are?

"You always knew the day would come when the machines would rise up and take over the world, but never did you imagine it'd be so convenient."

by Denver_Native on Nov 11, 2008 8:04 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

If I had to make a guess now

I would say he will play, but not see too much action again. If he can get through practices during the week, then you will see more of him; but if his ankle is keeping him out of practice they will go to Malcolm Floyd.

"Football is a physical sport, sometimes you have a disagreement on what's going on, and you have a discussion about it." Kris Dielman

by Brian (DaBolts) on Nov 11, 2008 8:20 AM PST to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks!

You kick ass Dabolts.

"You always knew the day would come when the machines would rise up and take over the world, but never did you imagine it'd be so convenient."

by Denver_Native on Nov 11, 2008 8:26 AM PST reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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