Chargers-Dolphins Success & Stop Rates
by Richard
on Oct 6, 2008 6:28 PM PDT
Chargers Offensive Success Rate:
| Overall | 26.5% | 13/49 |
| Pass | 23.3% | 7/30 |
| Run | 31.6% | 6/19 |
| 1st Down | 26.3% | 5/19 |
| 2nd Down | 29.4% | 5/17 |
| 3rd Down | 25.0% | 3/12 |
| 4th Down | 0.0% | 0/1 |
| 1stPass | 11.1% | 1/9 |
| 1stRun | 40.0% | 4/10 |
| 2ndPass | 30.0% | 3/10 |
| 2ndRun | 28.6% | 2/7 |
| 3rdPass | 27.3% | 3/11 |
| 3rdRun | 0.0% | 0/1 |
| 4thPass | N/A | N/A |
| 4thRun | 0.0% | 0/1 |
| 1st Quarter | 31.3% | 5/16 |
| 2nd Quarter | 11.1% | 1/9 |
| 3rd Quarter | 33.3% | 5/15 |
| 4th Quarter | 22.2% | 2/9 |
| 1stPass | 33.3% | 3/9 |
| 1stRun | 28.6% | 2/7 |
| 2ndPass | 0.0% | 0/6 |
| 2ndRun | 33.3% | 1/3 |
| 3rdPass | 33.3% | 3/9 |
| 3rdRun | 33.3% | 2/6 |
| 4thPass | 16.7% | 1/6 |
| 4thRun | 33.3% | 1/3 |
Chargers Defensive Stop Rate:
| Overall | 47.8% | 33/69 |
| Pass | 46.9% | 15/32 |
| Run | 48.6% | 18/37 |
| 1st Down | 62.1% | 18/29 |
| 2nd Down | 33.3% | 8/24 |
| 3rd Down | 46.7% | 7/15 |
| 4th Down | 0.0% | 0/1 |
| 1stPass | 50.0% | 6/12 |
| 1stRun | 70.6% | 12/17 |
| 2ndPass | 27.3% | 3/11 |
| 2ndRun | 38.5% | 5/13 |
| 3rdPass | 66.7% | 6/9 |
| 3rdRun | 16.7% | 1/6 |
| 4thPass | N/A | N/A |
| 4thRun | 0.0% | 0/1 |
| 1st Quarter | 30.0% | 3/10 |
| 2nd Quarter | 47.8% | 11/23 |
| 3rd Quarter | 61.5% | 8/13 |
| 4th Quarter | 47.8% | 11/23 |
| 1stPass | 25.0% | 1/4 |
| 1stRun | 33.3% | 2/6 |
| 2ndPass | 57.1% | 8/14 |
| 2ndRun | 33.3% | 3/9 |
| 3rdPass | 57.1% | 4/7 |
| 3rdRun | 66.7% | 4/6 |
| 4thPass | 28.6% | 2/7 |
| 4thRun | 56.3% | 9/16 |
| Wildcat | 50.0% | 5/10 |
| Non-Wildcat | 48.1% | 13/27 |
| No-Huddle Pass | 0.0% | 0/5 |
| No-Huddle Run | 100.0% | 1/1 |
What jumps out at me is that the Chargers were actually more effective at stopping Miami out of the Wildcat than on regular run plays. The other item that leaps out is that the Chargers couldn't stop the Dolphins at all when they passed when going no-huddle. Also, just in general the Chargers' defense held up rather well on first down and defended the pass well on third downs.
Looking deeper into the numbers we see that the Chargers were stopping passes to non-tight ends at a rate of about 52% (12/23) but only stopped passes to the tight ends at a rate of 29% (2/7). This really needs to be fixed. Also, there was a huge difference in stop rate against runs by Brown (33%, 8/24) and Williams (77%, 10/13), though that says more about the relative of quality of those two backs more than anything I'd guess.
No Chargers receiver was successful more than 50% with only Chambers (2/4) and Sproles even reaching that level (1/2). Gates (0/4) and Manumaleuna (0/1) were without even one successful play and Tomlinson's receiving success rate was an abominable 11% (1/9). Neither Davis (33%, 1/3) nor Jackson (40%, 2/5) were particularly productive, but they were at least bringing up the team average on the day.
The Chargers didn't look much better running the ball. Chambers was unsuccessful on his one attempt. Sproles was successful on only one of his six (17%) and the team's most successful rusher, Tomlinson was only good for a rate of 42% (5/12).
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by sdsuaztec4 on Oct 6, 2008 9:09 PM PDT 0 recs
This seems to about sum up the game
Although, I could have done it in two words.
Chargers Sucked.
Homer: Ohhhh, The Denver Broncos.
Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
Homer: Marge you just don't understand football.
by Wonko on Oct 7, 2008 10:23 AM PDT 0 recs
Listened to Clinton Hart on Too Much Show yesterday
He said the front 7 needs to do a better job of chipping the TEs at the line of scrimmage. It’s something they want to do, but haven’t been doing it at game time. On a similar note, they had talked about leveling Chad Pennington at the LOS on every Wildcat play, but they forgot to do it during the game.
Homer: Ohhhh, The Denver Broncos.
Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
Homer: Marge you just don't understand football.
by Wonko on Oct 7, 2008 10:25 AM PDT 0 recs
Clinton Hart
Every opposing OC’s favorite Charger DB. Maybe he should focus on actually covering somebody rather than criticizing other positions.
by CoastalBronco on
Oct 7, 2008 11:07 AM PDT
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It was Derek Smith’s failure to chip the tight end in Oakland that led to Hart being hung out to dry on that long TD pass. I’d say he has a right to complain.
by Richard on
Oct 7, 2008 11:36 AM PDT
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My point is
that Hart is regularly toasted (I’m remembering WRs more than TEs), and that the team would be better served by his addressing what he can (hopefully) control. I disagree regarding his abilities as a cover safety, although I do think he hits hard and tackles well.
I’m sure he does take his responsibility seriously, and he may have alluded to it in the interview. From what I understand, he is a good guy in the locker room and a team player. I just annoys me when players minimize their own culpability (which he may not have done)…. sorry to overreact.
by CoastalBronco on
Oct 7, 2008 11:46 AM PDT
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If Hart isn't a good cover safety
Then it lends credence to my theory that there are no more good cover safeties. The rules being what they are and the modern defensive schemes relying on safeties to cover deep zones against complicated offenses, it’s really hard to evaluate a safety based on if he is “toasted regularly”. So much of that has to do with offenses manipulating defensive schemes (just watch NFL Matchup a few times to see how easily this can be done for big plays) as well as players having to work together (corners expecting safety coverage, safeties expecting certain LB and corner coverage, all the DBs relying on a the pass rush getting there in a certain time). Hart is not a guy routinely out of position and may not be the best guy at calling the coverages, but he is not one of the bad guys out there (with the exception being that this year the broken arm hurts his ability to get interceptions). Safeties just have to play to their scheme, call the coverages based on the best information available and hit hard in an effort to hope that the ball is thrown poorly, a bad route is run or the receiver drops it (or catches it out of bounds). He can do that.
Homer: Ohhhh, The Denver Broncos.
Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
Homer: Marge you just don't understand football.
by Wonko on
Oct 7, 2008 12:01 PM PDT
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Clinton Hart
Is one of the leaders of the defense. He has proven himself to be a good cover safety, a playmaker and a good guy. His words were not those of a malcontent, but of a concerned leader seeing things that broke down and wanting to see them fixed in the future.
Homer: Ohhhh, The Denver Broncos.
Marge: Whats wrong with the Denver Broncos?
Homer: Marge you just don't understand football.
by Wonko on
Oct 7, 2008 11:41 AM PDT
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Forgot to level?
Why did you choose football as a career again?
Isn't it enough to know that I ruined a pony making a gift for you?
by Axion on
Oct 7, 2008 3:26 PM PDT
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I wonder if they have
remedial leveling?
Leveling for dummies?
"If two hitherto rival football teams, under the influence of brotherly love, decided to co-operate in placing the football first beyond one goal and then beyond the other, no one's happiness would be increased" Bertrand Russell
by DaBolts on
Oct 7, 2008 4:18 PM PDT
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